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geminian68 19-03-2012 03:40

What should be done about plastic bags?
 
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The European Commission is to publish proposals in the spring designed to reduce the number of plastic bags used in Europe each year. Most of the 15,000 people who took part in a public consultation favoured an outright ban - but what are the options?

Every year 800,000 tons of so-called single-use plastic bags are used in the European Union - the average EU citizen used 191 of them in 2010, the Commission says, and only 6% were recycled.

More than four billion bags are thrown away each year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17027990

Graham M 19-03-2012 10:01

Re: What should be done about plastic bags?
 
There should be more facilities to recycle them, it's essentially lose/lose unless you go the way of a heavy duty reusable plastic bag, but these tend to smell after a few uses, can't do paper unless it comes from recycled as you'd be chopping down more trees, you really can't win I don't think.

Taf 19-03-2012 11:08

Re: What should be done about plastic bags?
 
Replace many of them with cornstarch ones that safely biodegrade, then slap a tax on people that use them "to protect the environment".

That's what they did here in Wales.

Joined-up thinking from the Welsh Assembly? Don't be daft!

danielf 19-03-2012 11:18

Re: What should be done about plastic bags?
 
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Originally Posted by Graham M (Post 35402097)
There should be more facilities to recycle them, it's essentially lose/lose unless you go the way of a heavy duty reusable plastic bag, but these tend to smell after a few uses, can't do paper unless it comes from recycled as you'd be chopping down more trees, you really can't win I don't think.

Huh? What do you put in them? I've got heavy duty bags that I've been using for years without any problem...

Sirius 19-03-2012 11:20

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Tax them at 50p a bag and use the money for the NHS, Lets see how many are used then:D

Graham M 19-03-2012 11:20

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35402150)
Huh? What do you put in them? I've got heavy duty bags that I've been using for years without any problem...

General shopping... They always start to smell after a while for me

danielf 19-03-2012 12:04

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Originally Posted by Graham M (Post 35402153)
General shopping... They always start to smell after a while for me

I can't say I ever noticed. Perhaps you need to stop sniffing your plastic bags? :erm: :p:

SnoopZ 19-03-2012 12:25

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Originally Posted by Graham M (Post 35402153)
General shopping... They always start to smell after a while for me

I have been using the same reuseable Tesco bags since they introduced them several years ago and have never had to clean them and they never smell.

Taf 19-03-2012 12:26

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I read somewhere that reuseable bags become sources of infection.

The official advice was to use single use plastic bags.

I mentioned it in another thread about plastic bags in this forum I believe.

denphone 19-03-2012 12:32

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35402193)
I have been using the same reuseable Tesco bags since they introduced them several years ago and have never had to clean them and they never smell.

Yes same here but l suppose it depends on what is put in then.:D

admars 19-03-2012 14:17

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we use the carrier bags from our weekly shop as bin liners, saves buying bin liners.

Although supermarket carrier bags are so thin these days they are barely good enough to get groceries from car into house :(

mertle 19-03-2012 14:29

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Originally Posted by admars (Post 35402259)
we use the carrier bags from our weekly shop as bin liners, saves buying bin liners.

Although supermarket carrier bags are so thin these days they are barely good enough to get groceries from car into house :(

thats what we do saves a heap.

If they recycled into plastic products there no issue. Its the country problem we not enough reclycling depots. Result we heavily still using landfill sites due to the problem.

this old link 2009 but highlight the lack recycling plants in our country.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/gre...-MPs-warn.html

Pierre 19-03-2012 14:31

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What should be done about plastic bags?
Landfill or burn them.

Tim Deegan 19-03-2012 14:35

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Supermarkets used to leave empty cardboard boxes near the tills to use instead of bags. But they stopped a few years ago.

Pierre 19-03-2012 15:34

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35402267)
Supermarkets used to leave empty cardboard boxes near the tills to use instead of bags. But they stopped a few years ago.

Tesco near me still do that.

Maggy 19-03-2012 15:36

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Originally Posted by geminian68 (Post 35402060)

What are your opinions on this?

Zee 19-03-2012 15:40

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Its up to the stores really...

i do my shopping online from Tesco and have clearly checked the option to send my shopping with no bags, yet most of the shopping comes packed in bags anyway...

Tim Deegan 19-03-2012 15:50

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35402290)
Tesco near me still do that.

The one near me doesn't...or Sainsburys, Morrisons, Asda, or Waitrose. In fact the only place I have come across recently that still do it is Costco, but they don't give you bags anyway.

denphone 19-03-2012 15:56

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35402299)
The one near me doesn't...or Sainsburys, Morrisons, Asda, or Waitrose. In fact the only place I have come across recently that still do it is Costco, but they don't give you bags anyway.

The supermarkets near me have had no boxes for years by the checkouts and perhaps this is seen by most supermarkets as a health and safety now and that is perhaps why we don't see them anymore.

Tim Deegan 19-03-2012 16:02

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35402303)
The supermarkets near me have had no boxes for years by the checkouts and perhaps this is seen by most supermarkets as a health and safety now and that is perhaps why we don't see them anymore.

It is possible that they got rid of them as part of their risk asessment, on the grounds of it being a possible fire risk. But as long as a fire isn't likely to impede people from reaching an emergency exit, then I can't see it being an issue.

Then there is the possibility that they have done it because it looks untidy. Or even because bags have advertising on them, but boxes don't.

data0002 19-03-2012 16:04

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shops don't like using box's anymore in case you cut yourself with the box and you try to sue them. Mind you i always seem to go shopping and not take enough bags with me so i always end up having to get more free ones, or they could charge you 3p per bag like our aldi's do

Maggy 19-03-2012 16:07

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Shops are recycling boxes these days..as expected to by the local councils.The staff flat pack them as they collect them from around the store.

Taf 19-03-2012 16:23

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Our council refuses to recycle or take waste in supermarket plastic bags as they "clog the autosorter machinery"... then issue us with plastic bags with their logo on to put rubbish in.

:confused: :dunce:

Sirius 19-03-2012 16:39

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If they don't want us using them anymore then its simple, TAX them into extinction, Start at 50p then increase it at each budget by 50p per bag. :rolleyes:

Itshim 19-03-2012 17:39

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The supermarkets would be glad to see the back of them. must cost them a fortune. On the other side of the coin. As the HDPE is a by product of petrol what would happen to that? Personally I would ban plastic blister packs & bottles. Use glass & recycle - its called a deposit - Remember that. As for waste - ban disposable nappies. Cloth ones now that`s true recycling !

Taf 19-03-2012 17:55

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I used to love the 3 (old) pence deposit on bottles as I used to find many discarded ones.

But then glass bottles became "non-returnable". Why was that I wonder?

Tim Deegan 19-03-2012 18:01

Re: What should be done about plastic bags?
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35402310)
Shops are recycling boxes these days..as expected to by the local councils.The staff flat pack them as they collect them from around the store.

THey have always recycled the majority of boxes, and just left enough at the front of the store.

You can't get better recycling than being used twice, and then being put out in someones recycling bin.

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Originally Posted by data0002 (Post 35402307)
shops don't like using box's anymore in case you cut yourself with the box and you try to sue them. Mind you i always seem to go shopping and not take enough bags with me so i always end up having to get more free ones, or they could charge you 3p per bag like our aldi's do

That's just some manager going over the top with their risk asessment. Costco are an American company, so if any company was going to be scared of being sued it would be them.

mertle 19-03-2012 22:16

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I got box from tesco if you ask they will provide one. Item was too big for bag it was the only one left managed to get them to sell it.

Asked for box they said they aint got the box for that but did come out with box it would fit.

Plastic used in bins you cant get away from them paper wont work.

Infact yanks give you choice it would be interesting stat which they take. I know which every time plastic.

I want it to last not break then use it as bin liner. Whats the difference from plastic bags for shopping to plastic bags for rubbish the same.

What do they want paper bins. Like I said upto them to seperate the rubbish from plastic recycle it. Sell it to make plastic products or another bag.


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