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Jimmy-J 13-03-2012 03:30

European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
Yeah, I can really see Christians, not just Christians, but all kinds of people that wear the cross, abiding by this ban if it were to happen.

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The Government is set to argue that Christians do not have the right to wear a cross or crucifix openly at work, in a landmark discrimination court case which will be heard by the European Court of Human Rights.

The case will seek to establish the human rights of two British women to display the cross, while the government will argue that because the Christian faith does not 'require' them to wear the cross, it does not fall under the remit of human rights.
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Hugh 13-03-2012 09:06

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
Have to love the fact that both of the link headlines (and, I am sure, almost all of the reports about this) miss out the word "openly".........

Gary L 13-03-2012 09:58

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
I'm not too bothered if someone wants to wear a cross.
the only people who are bothered are the ones who think it may offend somebody. or they are actually offended by it.

martyh 13-03-2012 10:18

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35398339)
I'm not too bothered if someone wants to wear a cross.
the only people who are bothered are the ones who think it may offend somebody. or they are actually offended by it.

I wonder if this is a way for Christians to get a "required religious item" that they have to wear to prove they are Christians as currently they don't have one and are feeling a little left out .:D

Gary L 13-03-2012 10:31

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
I bet they wish they could re-write the Bible and put "thou should wear the symbol of Christ at all times" :)

Maggy 13-03-2012 10:36

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
And yet does it not say in the 10 commandments that 'thou shall worship no graven images'?

So why would anyone HAVE to wear a cross?:confused:

Taf 13-03-2012 11:02

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
I always found it odd that they would want to wear a model of the item supposedly used to kill him. :confused:

Gary L 13-03-2012 11:09

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35398373)
I always found it odd that they would want to wear a model of the item supposedly used to kill him. :confused:

That's actually quite a good thought.
another one is what's the symbol for God. why only a symbol for Jesus?
if he didn't die on a cross and was cremated or something, then what symbol if any would there be?

it's also quite interesting that the cross is the only symbol there is.

Russ 13-03-2012 11:12

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35398360)
And yet does it not say in the 10 commandments that 'thou shall worship no graven images'?

Some forms of Christianity (Catholicism etc) blatantly break this commandment. But if someone is following the Bible to the letter, no image, person or item is needed for worship, prayer etc.

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Originally Posted by Taf
I always found it odd that they would want to wear a model of the item supposedly used to kill him.

It symbolises the sacrifice he made for us. Again, there's no requirement for it.

I certainly have never felt the need to wear any sort of symbol of Christianity.

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35398384)
it's also quite interesting that the cross is the only symbol there is.

I love it when you publicly display your encyclopedic knowledge on such matters.

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Maggy 13-03-2012 11:14

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
waits for Gary to ask what that is all about?

Osem 13-03-2012 11:14

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
What'll they do when someone decides to have a cross tattooed on their face? Make them wear a mask? :erm:

Gary L 13-03-2012 11:17

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35398385)
I love it when you publicly display your encyclopedic knowledge on such matters.

Is that from the fishes and the bread story?

Russ 13-03-2012 11:21

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35398392)
Is that from the fishes and the bread story?

What, you mean you don't know? :eek:

It symbolises that as well us Jesus asking us to be 'fishers of men'.

martyh 13-03-2012 11:23

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35398389)
What'll they do when someone decides to have a cross tattooed on their face? Make them wear a mask? :erm:


no just a big hoody :D


http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1331634116

Gary L 13-03-2012 11:24

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35398396)
What, you mean you don't know?

The Romans persecuted the Christians and it became dangerous for them to meet. So the Christians devised a secret code. They drew half a fish in the sand. If a person completed the fish, they knew he or she was a believer too.

Then what?

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It symbolises that as well us Jesus asking us to be 'fishers of men'.
Us?
He chose several fishermen to be his disciples and declared he would make them "fishers of men"

danielf 13-03-2012 11:27

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35398385)

I love it when you publicly display your encyclopedic knowledge on such matters.

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/03/36.png

:)

Russ 13-03-2012 11:27

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
I've altered my post as so you might not embarrass yourself in public next time ;)

martyh 13-03-2012 11:27

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35398402)
The Romans persecuted the Christians and it became dangerous for them to meet. So the Christians devised a secret code. They drew half a fish in the sand. If a person completed the fish, they knew he or she was a believer too.

Then what?

:google: :D

Russ 13-03-2012 11:28

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35398404)

A Dawkins-esque atheist simply cannot keep quiet even in matters which do not directly concern them :)

danielf 13-03-2012 11:29

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35398408)
A Dawkins-esque atheist simply cannot keep quiet even in matters which do not directly concern them :)

Nah, just lightening the mood a bit :)

Russ 13-03-2012 11:30

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
My point still stands :angel:

Gary L 13-03-2012 11:33

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35398404)

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:)

Russ 13-03-2012 12:08

Re: European Court to decide if Christians can wear a cross at work
 
There are plenty of Christian symbols out there - go a google image search - regardless of what anyone tells you, the Bible (if someone cites it as their source) says nothing about any image, item or person needing to be present to be a Christian.

This court case IMO is more about "What's good for Muslims/Sikhs/whatever is good for us".

Hugh 13-03-2012 15:21

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35398407)
:google: :D

Woodlands Junior School website, actually....;)


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