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Osem 23-02-2012 08:48
MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
Quote:
A man, understood to be Falkirk's Labour MP Eric Joyce, has been arrested on suspicion of assault after a disturbance at Parliament. Police say they detained a man in his 50s after receiving reports of an incident at a House of Commons bar at about 22:50 GMT.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17136209

If this incident was in any way drink related I wonder if they powers that be will decide that increasing the price our MP's pay for alcohol is the answer....

Hugh 23-02-2012 08:57
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
A bit more detail from the Times
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Witnesses said that Mr Joyce, 51, MP for Falkirk, headbutted and punched the Conservative MP Stuart Andrew, MP for Pudsey, and assaulted several other Tory MPs and a Labour MP, according to the political website PoliticsHome .

The website said that a witness claimed that Mr Joyce “just started lashing out at people” in the Stranger’s Bar, which is reserved for MPs and their guests.

An eye-witness told PoliticsHome that Mr Joyce pushed a Tory MP and then started punching some of the other Conservative members sitting at the back of the bar. Drinks were also thrown over other bar patrons.

richard1960 23-02-2012 09:00
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
Sounds like a saturday night brawl at the Dog and Duck shameful behaviour if they cannot be trusted the price in the commons bars should go up.!:D

I have been in the strangers bar on a commons visit when i went it was well cheap.!:shocked:

denphone 23-02-2012 09:01
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
It beggars belief how many people voted this idiot in as the MP for Falkirk.:(:td:

Hom3r 23-02-2012 09:05
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
The big irony is the TAX payer pays towards this bar for them to drink at.

Maggy 23-02-2012 10:43
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
How many institutions/organisations have a bar on the premises?:confused:

Perhaps Cameron should get the House in order and alcohol consumption down among MPs before wagging a finger at the Friday/Saturday binge drinkers and the sale of cheap booze to the ordinary members of the public? ;)

pabscars 23-02-2012 10:51
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35386833)
How many institutions/organisations have a bar on the premises?:confused:

Perhaps Cameron should get the House in order and alcohol consumption down among MPs before wagging a finger at the Friday/Saturday binge drinkers and the sale of cheap booze to the ordinary members of the public? ;)
Spot on

Taf 23-02-2012 11:17
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35386833)
How many institutions/organisations have a bar on the premises?:confused:

Perhaps Cameron should get the House in order and alcohol consumption down among MPs before wagging a finger at the Friday/Saturday binge drinkers and the sale of cheap booze to the ordinary members of the public? ;)
:tu:

The propoganda machine is in full swing against alcohol already. :(

And a national budget looms on the horizon :(

Pog66 23-02-2012 14:32
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
A minimum price per unit of alcohol in the HoC bar would be a good start

Mick Fisher 23-02-2012 14:39
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
Idiotic half cut MP's brawling in their exclusive watering hole........

Don't'ya just love it, certainly made my afternoon.

:LOL:

Sirius 23-02-2012 14:41
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
So let me get this straight, we have the situation where a ****ed up MP could go and vote on something important because he has been in the bar at his place of work all day.

why o why do i bother voting for these shysters

Hom3r 23-02-2012 15:24
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35386998)
A minimum price per unit of alcohol in the HoC bar would be a good start
Which they would just claim back on expenses ;)

Mick Fisher 23-02-2012 15:34
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35387006)
So let me get this straight, we have the situation where a ****ed up MP could go and vote on something important because he has been in the bar at his place of work all day.

why o why do i bother voting for these shysters
I asked myself the self same question years and years ago.

I ain't been near a polling station since. :D

Sirius 23-02-2012 17:01
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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35387049)
I asked myself the self same question years and years ago.

I ain't been near a polling station since. :D
To be honest i dont intend voting ever again.

papa smurf 23-02-2012 17:45
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
A bit more detail from the Times
Quote:
Witnesses said that Mr Joyce, 51, MP for Falkirk, headbutted and punched the Conservative MP Stuart Andrew, MP for Pudsey, and assaulted several other Tory MPs and a Labour MP, according to the political website PoliticsHome .

The website said that a witness claimed that Mr Joyce “just started lashing out at people” in the Stranger’s Bar, which is reserved for MPs and their guests.

An eye-witness told PoliticsHome that Mr Joyce pushed a Tory MP and then started punching some of the other Conservative members sitting at the back of the bar. Drinks were also thrown over other bar patrons.




wow that sounds like some night out mp's get some great perks
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Gary L 23-02-2012 18:47
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
If he never did what he did and got arrested. I wonder if he would have driven home?

Osem 23-02-2012 20:59
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35387174)
If he never did what he did and got arrested. I wonder if he would have driven home?
Doubt it - in London we have things called black cabs..... :D

Apparently Joyce had to resign as Shadow Northern Ireland Secretary in 2010 after pleading guilty to failing to provide a breath test......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Joyce

His record on expenses also makes interesting reading...

Quote:
Joyce was the top-claiming Member of the House of Commons for the 2005–06 Parliamentary Session, claiming £174,811 in expenses, of which 62% was for staff and office costs.[22] ......he once again rose to the top of the expenses list for the 2007–08 Parliamentary Session with £187,334.[24]

Joyce was the first MP to claim more than £1 million cumulatively in expenses.[25] In October 2007 Joyce claimed £180 for three oil paintings. When asked why he had used taxpayer's funds in such a way he replied "because they look nice."[26] In May 2009, tabloids reported Joyce was seeking advice from HM Revenue and Customs regarding £40,000 in unpaid capital gains tax on the sale of his London home, which he had designated as his second home under the Second Homes Allowance scheme.."
:rolleyes:

denphone 24-02-2012 04:48
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35387251)
Doubt it - in London we have things called black cabs..... :D

Apparently Joyce had to resign as Shadow Northern Ireland Secretary in 2010 after pleading guilty to failing to provide a breath test......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Joyce

His record on expenses also makes interesting reading...

:rolleyes:
Not the shining example we are looking for in our MPs l am afraid.:(:td:

Osem 24-02-2012 07:02
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35387320)
Not the shining example we are looking for in our MPs l am afraid.:(:td:
Yes and I wonder how many people he's lectured on social responsibility over the years...

denphone 24-02-2012 07:05
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35387341)
Yes and I wonder how many people he's lectured on social responsibility over the years...
Quite a few Osem l suspect and l suspect straight afterwards he broke all the rules of social responsibility that he was only preaching moments earlier.

richard1960 24-02-2012 07:33
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He has now been charged with assault.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...ith-assault.do

richard1960 24-02-2012 08:33
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35387360)
Hmmm Fight said red why the **** thinks Eric Joyce is a Red is beyond me.:erm:

Not too keen on Eric Joyce however myself.

denphone 09-03-2012 09:59
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Labour MP Eric Joyce pleads guilty to all charges of assault following brawl in Commons bar.

Lets hope the punishment fits the crime.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-17310549

Osem 10-03-2012 09:27
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MP Eric Joyce has been fined £3,000 and banned from pubs for three months after he admitted assaulting politicians in a House of Commons bar.........
....... As well as a £3,000 fine, he was ordered to pay £1,400 in compensation to his victims. ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-17310549

Doesn't seem a very harsh punishment I must say.

martyh 10-03-2012 09:33
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Falkirk MP Eric Joyce shouted at police "You can't touch me, I'm an MP" on the night he attacked four politicians in a House of Commons bar, a court has been told.
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16185360

Everything that is wrong with British politics is in those 7 words :mad:

I would have jailed him just for saying that

Osem 10-03-2012 09:48
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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"You can't touch me, I'm an MP"
Wonder if he was thinking that when claiming all those expenses?.....

martyh 10-03-2012 09:53
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35396892)
Wonder if he was thinking that when claiming all those expenses?.....
In all likelyhood he will be expelled so at least that will be one less pig at the trough.....untill his replacement is elected

Osem 10-03-2012 09:59
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35396896)
In all likelyhood he will be expelled so at least that will be one less pig at the trough.....untill his replacement is elected
The article says he will be expelled from the Labour Party but IIRC he's intending to stay on as an MP until the next election.

martyh 10-03-2012 10:11
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35396905)
The article says he will be expelled from the Labour Party but IIRC he's intending to stay on as an MP until the next election.
didn't know they could do that ,i thought that if they got expelled from a party then it would force a by election

Osem 10-03-2012 12:11
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35396946)
I don't think that's any different to voluntarilly leaving a party or even going over to the dark side. Neither of which precipitate a by-election. IIRC only death or resignation as an MP can cause that.

The electorate voted for the candidate (ostensibly) rather than the party that backed him/her. Though as we know in practice in safe seats you could put a rosette on a pile of bull plop and it would be elected.
Quite and don't we see such a lot of evidence of that! The art of being a 'successful' MP all too often boils down to getting your self elected or parachuted into a safe seat by your mates with the accompanying meal ticket for life...

denphone 10-03-2012 17:27
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35396879)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-17310549

Doesn't seem a very harsh punishment I must say.
No its pathetic.:td::(

Hugh 31-07-2012 20:35
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
Who's a naughty boy, then?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...ntral-19064990

Osem 15-03-2013 06:38
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
He's at it again:


Quote:
The independent MP Eric Joyce was arrested last night when a fight broke out at a parliamentary bar.

More than a dozen officers were called after the fracas involving Mr Joyce at Westminster's Sports and Social Club where a karaoke night was taking place.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-8535516.html

Mick Fisher 15-03-2013 15:00
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35548464)
:LOL:

Damien 15-03-2013 18:32
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South Park need to adapt this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-DblXaqQMk for him...

TheDaddy 17-03-2013 01:17
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35548705)
Looks like minimum pricing should start in HOC bars. 10 a shot I reckon.
Or no shots at all or indeed no bars at all, who else here is allowed to not just drink at work but get absolutely blotto should they wish, we wouldn't dream of tolerating teachers, doctors or anyone else turning up for work drunk but the people that run the country, that's fine.

martyh 17-03-2013 06:12
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35549338)
Or no shots at all or indeed no bars at all, who else here is allowed to not just drink at work but get absolutely blotto should they wish, we wouldn't dream of tolerating teachers, doctors or anyone else turning up for work drunk but the people that run the country, that's fine.
good point,may account for some of the stranger decisions

Chris 17-03-2013 07:50
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35549338)
Or no shots at all or indeed no bars at all, who else here is allowed to not just drink at work but get absolutely blotto should they wish, we wouldn't dream of tolerating teachers, doctors or anyone else turning up for work drunk but the people that run the country, that's fine.
You should have met the news editor I used to work for .... :erm:

martyh 17-03-2013 08:01
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
http://ericjoyce.co.uk/2013/03/a-few...hts-re-events/

Osem 17-03-2013 18:59
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
Wonder what he'll resort to when he's out of office, "I'm a drunk, get me out of here?"

Stuart 17-03-2013 22:23
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35549380)
You should have met the news editor I used to work for .... :erm:
When they were based in Fleet Street, weren't most of the National Newspapers effectively run from Pubs? That's certainly the image they had.

TheDaddy 18-03-2013 06:02
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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35549735)
When they were based in Fleet Street, weren't most of the National Newspapers effectively run from Pubs? That's certainly the image they had.
So they didn't have a bar in the office building, slightly different then imo, my grandfather worked in fleet street for the times and telegraph btw.

Derek 22-05-2013 18:16
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
Once again Mr Joyce has got a bit fighty and spent some time in his local Police cells.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-fife-22626211

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Scots MP Eric Joyce has been arrested in connection with an alleged breach of the peace at Edinburgh Airport.

Mr Joyce is believed to have become involved in a row with airport staff while trying to retrieve his mobile phone, which he had left on a plane on Sunday. He was unable to tell staff which flight he had arrived on.
Can't remember what flight he was on? Hmmm, maybe him having a few drinks and getting aggressive is a regular occurrence.

Osem 22-05-2013 18:21
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
What a fine example this guy is. Really... :rolleyes:

Mick Fisher 23-05-2013 13:53
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35574583)
What a fine example this guy is. Really... :rolleyes:
Yeah he's a pest but you gotta see the funny side :D

Made me smile on a day that has not got much else going for it, what with nutters running around and killing people for no good reason. :(

TheDaddy 23-05-2013 16:31
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35574932)
Made me smile on a day that has not got much else going for it, what with nutters running around and killing people for no good reason. :(
Yeah you can go round smacking them for no good reason instead :D
unless being pished counts as a good reason these days, well it's as good a reason as any thinking about it I guess :(

Hugh 01-05-2015 18:59
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Mr Joyce has been a bit "handy" again....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32557123
Quote:
Former Falkirk MP Eric Joyce has been found guilty of assaulting two teenage boys in an "unjustified and unprovoked" attack in a shop.

The 54-year-old was convicted of two counts of common assault against the boys, aged 14 and 15, in a food store in north London, in October 2014.
Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, but three times is enemy action....

denphone 01-05-2015 19:15
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No excuses at all for behaviour like this.

Osem 01-05-2015 20:42
Re: MP arrested after alleged HOC bar 'assault'
 
He's a true credit to someone isn't he...


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