V+ v Tivo
 

Hi thinking about getting the Tivo box before the price hike! Just wondered what the verdict was of those who already have it. Love the V+ find the HDD a bit small but apart from that no problems.
What are the advantages? Is it worth the xtra cost? I currently have my V+ wired to a TV in my kitchen via an RF modulator connected to the scart is this possible with the Tivo also?

Cheers.

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I'll let other customers give you an opinion of TiVo, but yes you can use the scart the same as you have now to your kitchen. :)

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It's a bit like comparing a Ford Focus with a Ferrari. The Focus is comfortable, good to drive and will get you where you want to go......but you really want to have the Ferrari!!!

The V+ plus was very good for it's day but with the introduction of the TiVO it'll soon be obsolete imho.

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would swap mine for a 2nd V+ anytime.:p:

Tomorrow it will be sorted ! Been told that since day one still waiting.

Any way got mine for less than I paid for just the V+ so I can live (if not love) with it.

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I'm sticking with V+ for now:

1) Additional cost
2) Express Series link isn't customisable. I like 5 minutes before and 10 minutes after.
3) Can't permanently reserve a tuner for live TV
4) No Red Button

Points 2 and 3 are the main problems for me. If those things are sorted then I'll consider migrating. I know Red Button will get done at some point.

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Point 1 = Will go down in time
Point 2 = You can customise a series link, you have to create it then go into it in my series links and you can change it then
Point 3 = You cant on a V+ box as far as im aware
Point 4 = Its coming soon, later this year i believe

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Point 3 - on the V+ that is the default setting with 1 tuner allocated to TV permanently and so 2 other tuners for recordings. The OP was referring to what they would want on Tivo and is a feature I would actually like myself. Not a show stopper but certainly a preference as I personally like a tuner to browse through any channels I wish to look at while leaving 2 other tuners to do planned recordings and for Tivo to reschedule recordings if there is a clash rather than use of the 3rd tuner today.

Point 2 - saw a comment form a VM representative on the VM Tivo Support forum around a month ago saying they are planning to introduce default settings you can customise. Everybody wants to decide what default means for them.

Point 4 - definitely coming and when finally here will be far better than V+ but right now can understand why some people will not change until features like these are in place. Get on with it VM!

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Point 1 - Is going up already and will continue to based on recent events.

Point 4 - TiVo should be renamed "TiVo Coming Soon".

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Tivo Has one big advantage over v+ and that is a bigger hd.So more hd content can be recorded. Also it is nice to find programs through actor searches and the like. Is it worth the extra £3 a month ?,well if you have some spare cash then yes but only just!

Apps are thin on the ground also and are not the great.Except Spotify,which you have to pay for.

My views is it ain't like going from a ford to a Ferrari more, a golf to a g.t.i:)

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The small HDD on the V+ forces us to only record stuff we actually want to watch, it's regularly around half full. We only have a SDTV, obviously it will be inadequate when they upgrade to a HDTV and start recording HD.

Anything I put under the TV has to be compatible with the parents so it has to be supersimple to use. Setting a series link and having to modify the padding afterwards would be too complicated. The same goes for using 3 tuners at once, I can imagine my mother getting ready to watch something and then a strange message appears on the screen telling her to cancel one of her recordings, it would annoy her.

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Neither imho. The VHD is the best box VM do. Credit where credit's due, it really is quite nice, certainly quicker and quieter than V+/TiVo. If you get the scart out from it linked up to decent hard drive recorder you've got the recording capability as well.

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Its a great box but its not a PVR. Trying to use the external Hard Drive Recorder limits you to only watching and recording the same channel, doesn't help if two programmes clash

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Exactly and this is its (Tivo) best selling point. We watch hardly anything live now, especially as you can watch an hours programme in 45 minutes (by skipping the adds).

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It would be quieter as it doesn't have a HDD. ;) The TiVo is whisper quiet anyway IMO :)

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The Tivo box is so quiet you can here a pin drop..ive done it and you can :D

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So quiet even dogs cannot hear it:D

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LOL :D

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I have had a V+ for years and a Tivo for around 6 months.

I am quite happy with the Tivo, particularly the large hard drive, but can see few advantages (in fact several disadvantages) over the V+.

Advantages: Spotify (I was already a premium subscriber so I could have it on my mobile). YouTube (though it is annoying the way it works). The ability to set recordings from my Android phone. The way it puts different episodes of the same programme into a folder is neat. Large hard drive.

Disadvantages (admittedly each is minor, but nonetheless annoying): Lack of V+ type mini guide (I know there are alternative ways, but I prefer the simple V+ approach to this); Does not tell you if you have watched a recording; If you are not careful, it suddenly deletes older episodes of a series without warning (what is the point of having a limit on the number of episodes saved when the hard drive is so large? OK I know you can usually find them in the deleted folder, but what a palava!); Lack of real time recording to fit the ACTUAL time a programme is broadcast - if it had this as just about all other modern PVRs have all this fuss over recording minutes before and after a show would be reduntant. Unless this is put in I do not see how VM can claim the Tivo to be the future of TV; Seems to me to be far more button pressing necessary compared to V+; Does not tell you if you have paused a programme and not watching it real time; Lack of display to say what channel you are on or how much of a recording has been shown.

If the V+ had been given a larger hard drive I would be just as happy with that as I am not interested in putting thumbs up and down by programmes. Rarely in the past used the red button or reminders but I can understand how people who did would be annoyed that these facilities are missing.

To sum up, the Tivo is fine but am not sure what all the fuss is about. Tivo's biggest problem is that the V+ was so good (except for the small hard drive) that for ordinary folk who simply want to record without fuss programmes to watch later (as opposed to TV geeks) it is difficult to better.

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Well for me its v+ I tried Tivo was really happy to get Tivo then massive let down due to the fact it just would not play nice with my LG tv which was brand new.
After many calls to faults and tech visits it became apparent there was a hdmi not recognised issue between the two.
Leads changed tv software updated and problem still continued so on that basis the Tivo had to go back and the good old v+ returned.
I must be honest im not to bothered really about suggestions and appa so the V+ is fine for me the only bug bear being the midnight slow down but Im used to that.

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I have had the same problems with my bravia , something that really irked me.A new hdmi seems thougth to have helped the issue.

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Are you aware you can change this in the series recording options? I agree the default is too low though.

Press the play button. If the thick white bar is not at the end of the green line, you are watching delay TV.

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I love the dynamic nature of setting an express series link, The Middle new episodes are starting on Friday 24th Feb, can the V+ do that NO!

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I do not see the point of having a restriction on the number of episodes recorded. The average person does not not want to go to the series recording options, in the same way as you do not have to on V+.