"God has answered our prayers for confusion in the Tesco boardroom".
 

Yes, well, quite.

Such is the claim from "Christian voice".

According to their National Director Stephen Green "...it seems that almighty God, who operates outside space and time, was well ahead of us, anticipating our prayers, and seeing by our actions that our prayers were serious".

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smells like someone has been on the 'herbs...........and lots of them to make a claim like this - obviously not the ones available at tesco's (other supermarkets are available) :p:

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So because Tesco sponsored a family area at the gay Pride celebtrations they have prayed to God that the company will fail ........not a very Christian ideal

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Out of curiosity, what would you have considered a Christian ideal to have been?

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Tolerance and acceptance of other people? Love your neighbour and only god can judge people? The Christianity I was taught as school is at odds with some of the homophobia display in some, some, sectors of Christianity (mostly in Africa and America).

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Yes, but the real clincher is that sales went down before the prayers, so the logical conclusion is that God anticipated the prayers, and acted proactively to dent the sales.

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What Damien said ,with the addition of wishing ill will to anyone is not a very christian ideal is it

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depends on what brand of Christian you are .

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apparently so ,such is religion:shrug:

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i wonder if God tipped this bloke the nod to make up for the fall in share price

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...rofits-warning

Bob Robbins, head of Tesco's UK stores, sold 50,000 shares days before profits warning wiped £5bn off retailer's value

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Oh dear! That smacks of insider dealing..:erm:

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the lord moves in mysterious ways when lining the pockets of the needy ;)

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Although you're not the person it was aimed at ;) what makes you say that? Not saying I disagree, just wondering what brings you to those views.

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and since the original question was aimed at me i will answer that if i may;)

they are basic human values ,which coincidently,are based on christian values or vice versa

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Tesco Value Christian perhaps?

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i prefer the BOGOF especially when they knock on my door :D

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OK, I see where you're going with that.

But if (and this is a big 'if', seeing as the meaning can be debated) the bible teaches against homosexual lifestyles, and CV are speaking out against what they see as a homosexual lifestyle, how can you say they're not being very "christian"?

I stress I'm not saying I agree with what CV are saying (in fact I don't), but the message you seem to be giving appears to be illogical.

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The kind that if there were a God, he would be ashamed of them. disown them, and send them to hell.

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Christianity is a religion where some agree with what is said to be Gods word and some don't agree with what is said to be Gods word.

if God says he disapproves of homosexuals, then I'd say to be a real Christian you'd have to agree with what the boss says.

or maybe not.

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it depends on how you look at it -i mean Christian values were laid down a couple of thousand years ago ,and although attitudes change over the centuries the written word remains the same , and some take the written word quite literally.

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I've always thought that God never said it. (not that I think God said anything) it was what the person or persons own thoughts that were put down and said to be the words of God.

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simply because i don't see it as a 'if' ,i don't think the bible teaches against homosexuality i think that is how people choose to interpret it to suit their own feelings ,so i don't think they are very christian .It is down to individual interpretation some think the bible does teach against homosexuality others think not so there is no definitive answer

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im with you on that - i mean i don't believe in God so i don't believe they are the words of God -just the words of man ,but they are powerful words when in the right or wrong hands ,they can be a force of great good and a force of great evil ,it depends on who's thumping the book at the time ;)

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I read somewhere that you're not supposed to mix different fabrics in one item of clothing either. I suppose there are 'core values' and ones that should be 'interpreted'. I haven't seen CV protesting against TESCO selling clothing of mixed fabric.

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Just my impression of Christianity from what I was exposed to at Primary School (went to a Roman Catholic school) and from most of the Christians/Catholics that I know. I mean the things I said are very well-known and common tenants of Christianity are they not?

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I know. it's always going to be one of lifes mysteries.
which is both fortunate and unfortunate really. can't be proven or disproven.

anyway

probably knows that God will spot him going in as it's around Jesus's Birthday and with all this homosexual thing.

but no doubt he'll be back in there getting his baby oil as usual in the new year :)

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To be honest I think they need to find some better way to deal with homosexuality. All the evidence suggests it's a biological preference, not a matter of choice. Therefore what is to be achieved by preaching against their lifestyle? They can't choose not to be gay, they didn't choose to defy the will of god.

If you believe that god controls these things then surely it is his will, intention or reasonability that they are gay anyway in which case it's rather bizarre to then make it a sin. At best he isn't taking an interest in someone sexuality but judging it after the fact.

To be honest this is probably a debate to have within your own religion amongst those who understand the scripture better, you don't need me poking in tell you how to reconcile these things (not that it stopped me).

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good point ,but as with all facts (and to religious people that is a fact)they are sometimes ignored to suit personal agendas

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Oh good, Another religion bashing thread, we haven't had one of them for ages..................

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*Face palm*

Tools.

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May i second that.

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Oh look Pierre popping up to have a whinge about the content of the thread, been a while since that happened.

You aren't a moderator here, no-one forces you to read them, no-one who does actually chooses to post in these threads as a contributor gives a monkeys' about your opinion of the thread as a whole. It was quite clear from the title it wasn't going to be complimentary, if you dislike the topic of conversation don't engage in it, not difficult.

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what he said

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Pierre has got a point though. we haven't had one for ages.

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i thought it was about acknowledging Gods power over Christmas sales and the stock market ,not bashing religion :erm:

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it is about Gods power over Xmas, I was just saying that we haven't had a bashing religion thread for ages. all the ones we have are just normal discussion.

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Seems as though God is throwing his weight behind the competition.

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that looks like my youngest son :)

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It has. Which is why I decided to point it out

I couldn't giving a flying toss what you care about my opinion, but if I have an opinion I'll give it anyway.

In the near 10 years I've been on this forum, there hasn't once been a thread about religion that hasn't degenerated into a Athiests V Theists or religion v science etc etc etc etc.

And if I want to express my view, I bloody well will and you can shove it from where you just spoke from.

Good Morning :)

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well there's nothing like a reasoned intelligent debate ;)

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Now, you wouldn't want to get into a discussion about religion with him. now would you? :)

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i'm always willing to tackle that subject - its the other side that always chucks the dummy out of the pram once the idea of proof is introduced into the debate;)

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You must be reading a different forum then - possibly one where the religious types actually claim they have proof of what they believe in.

People can post their view about peoples' beliefs on Cable Forum providing it is respectful and doesn't break our T&Cs.

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i never claimed " the religious types actually claim they have proof of what they believe in."

i said "its the other side that always chucks the dummy out of the pram once the idea of proof is introduced into the debate"

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Well it's our yearly reminder of how insane Christian voice is

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And I said:

As what you've said doesn't happen on CF.

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Well l reckon that the late Mr Cohen is very angry at what is happening at Tesco's at the moment.

The stores were built on the fact that they would be cheap and reasonable, but are now very expensive, I always go to ASDA or Morrisons as they are cheaper.

I found just before Xmas, they 'claim' they are cheaper than ASDA, well they were wrong, they are by far the most expensive, and what they do is reduce prices on one item but increase on another and l found that out.

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I can't say I ever considered Tesco to be especially expensive. Certainly thanks to Uncle Walmart Asda are probably cheaper.

I must admit it's extremely rare that I'm in an Asda though, and Tesco it's usually an Express.

Though this is a bit off topic to some moronic religious types thinking that with the millions on the brink of starvation in Africa, young children who've never done a thing wrong in their lives dying in agony of various diseases and humans raping and killing other humans their imaginary friend has nothing better to do than mess around with the board room of a retailer.

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Good point. maybe now a nicer Christian group will prove that they're not all the same and can pray for better things. and God will fix all the dying and suffering you mention.

or maybe they have already tried and God chooses to ignore them kind of ones, and prefers to do the Tescos kind of one instead.

Or is it the case that this Tescos thing was not actually due to Gods intervention. it was just a coincidence?

if it is down to Gods intervention, then it proves that he can change things when asked.

but from doing it he's sending out a clear message that he is in fact homophobic. and that all that is written in the bible about homosexuals cannot be mis-interpreted anymore.

unless, as has been said. this group are just a bunch of idiots, and the Tescos intervention was not Gods doing. but simply a coincidence.

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:tu:

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:tu: So here's hoping this one can possibly not descend to the usual level. :tu:

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That usually only happens when somebody sends out the rabid atheists call :)

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Then don't send it..;)

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You called Gary?

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Yes, but it's not my real name :)

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Foggy headed this morning so had to read this post twice.

Apologies if stating the blindingly obvious is 'bashing'. Happy to be proven wrong.

I'm off to pay homage to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, then some Dianetics, indulge myself with some Raëlism and close off my Sunday with some Latter Day Saints action.

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Being fair though that's really not worth pursuing. If promoting reality is in any way rabid so be it :)

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Point proven, didn't take long did it Maggy?

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Well it may pick up but I'm not holding my breath.;)

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That's just it your not happy to be proven wrong, your not interested in debating it at all, you have your position and aren't interested in anything other than having little digs and imo that makes you nothing more than a wum.

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What's a wum?

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A Gary L, a wind up merchant.

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Thanks vihp. it's obvious when you get told.

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keep up with the times mate he's gone digital these days ;)

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I'm sorry to say that I'm happy to be proven wrong, because I don't hold childish superstitions and am quite happy to judge evidence presented to me. There is absolutely none to give me a contrary viewpoint.

There is no debate to be had as debate usually needs two points of view backed up with evidence and there's absolutely no objective evidence pointing to my being wrong, merely 'We don't know's with the gaps filled in with whatever fairy tale suits peoples' beliefs.

It's all a matter of 'faith', which I don't share, and don't respect, I consider it to be all in the heads of those who believe and am not in the habit of respecting or indulging delusion.

I'm quite happy to observe the thread and start waiting, just as I was in the previous thread when those on the opposite side of the debate had nothing to say beyond that it was all about 'faith'. I don't regard an opinion held with absolutely nothing outside of its perceiver's mind to back it up as being in any way persuasive.

I never even got out of Chris whether or not he's a Young Earth Creationist, which was disappointing. Would've opened up an interesting line of conversation.

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You should have used the search facility. :)

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No need for you to take part in any religious-based thread on CF then?

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Seems everyone is anti gay lately. the connection is that they're all religious. the irony is that they're persecuting people, and don't like it when they're being persecuted themselves.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-16581758

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