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philwhite100 31-12-2011 14:14

Wired home network
 
Does anyone on here have a wired home network.
Our BB point is upstairs and i would like some ethernet wall sockets downstairs for when i am on the laptop as wifi is terrible in our home.
I am not really interested in Homeplug type networking to be honest but running ethernet cables around the home so they are out of sight behind walls seems like a lot of work.

LondonRoad 31-12-2011 14:41

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Running network cables is the way forward. I know it can be a lot of work but it is permanent.

How much work depends on the type of dwelling you have. I've got most of mine behind walls and skirting boards or inside cupboards and the loft. My next extension to the home network will be to stick a couple of points near the TV to utilise for the Tivo. For that I'll run the cables outside, from the loft and drill a hole through the wall into the where the Tivo sits. It'll follow the route of a downpipe so I'll be able to make a neat job of it.

Another alternative is to use a length of mini trunking. It's not that expensive and imho can look a lot better than having cables pinned down walls or along skirting boards

philwhite100 31-12-2011 15:23

Re: Wired home network
 
Well i could run a cable through a hole in our upstairs frame where the TV aerial coax was and straight down then through the air brick where the TV happens to be located and that would do fine.

We already have mini trunking for the 5.1 surround speaker cables and it blends in quite nicely so that is also an option

Graham M 31-12-2011 21:44

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Most DIY stores will stock trunking in various colours to match wall decoration such as magnolia, most of it will also take paint.

candy1567 31-12-2011 23:42

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wat we used to hide the cables was a cable trunking in different colours around the house, we also hid speaker wires in them as well for surround sound at the same time

its called d line trunking, it is a bit expensive but its a one off cost, we mostly got it for the living room

http://www.d-line.co.uk/


Juliex

Taf 01-01-2012 11:02

Re: Wired home network
 
I have wired 4 rooms using a kit from B&Q. The wiring is not really noticeable, though I think trunking would be. Once it's done, it's done.....

philwhite100 01-01-2012 11:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by candy1567 (Post 35353072)
wat we used to hide the cables was a cable trunking in different colours around the house, we also hid speaker wires in them as well for surround sound at the same time

its called d line trunking, it is a bit expensive but its a one off cost, we mostly got it for the living room

http://www.d-line.co.uk/


Juliex

This is exatly what i have installed to hide the speaker cables for our surround sound but have them blending in with the coving on the ceiling.
Also not too expensive at B&Q,

progers 01-01-2012 17:51

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How old is your house? If not too old, it probably has dry lined walls (breeze block with plasterboard stuck on with an air gap). It's relatively easy to thread your cables behind it; I use curtain wire as a guide to thread though, then tie your cable on the end and pull through.

LSainsbury 01-01-2012 22:10

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I've got a 1Gb switch upstairs (16 ports) with a CAT5e cable running up into the loft, through the eves, down the side of the house and into the lounge using the hole drilled for the Sky dish. This connects up to an 8port 1Gb switch next to the TV. This is used to connect up the Wii and the Blu-Ray player to the internet, as well as the laptop when I want to stream iPayer to the TV via HDMI. Our TV dosn't have a LAN connection on it. When we upgrade it, we have the internet ready and waiting.

It's worth doing as it gives more flexability without worrying about shoddy Wi-Fi signals.

RB2004 02-01-2012 00:32

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ive got a completely wired home network :)

basic 2x Cat6 cables to each bedroom, 1 for computer/laptop, and 1 for emerging requirement of a network cable for things like TV, Blu-Ray, TiVo etc..any more than 2 seems rediculas so may as well put a switch in lol if you start needing 3 then chances are you will need more.

Then 1 for the living room, connected to a netgear prosafe switch, for TiVo, Print Server, Computer, and Xbox 360.

All cables go back to under stair cuboard into a Cat 6 Patch Panel.. then on into a 24 port Netgear Prosafe POE Smart switch... bit overkill on that switch because ive also got redundant network cables in place for outside IP CCTV for future use, and running an expandable NAS and things in there so I have a central file store for everything as well as a netgear prosafe wireless access point.

Superhub is running in modem mode behind a Netgear Prosafe VPN Firewall Router.

All 1000 Tbase Gigabit ethernet :)

So im all future proofed.

But ive used the under stairs cuboard as a kind of central location for everything.. all the telephone sockets in the house are wired back to there in a star arrangement, also got the alarm panel in there, CCTV cables etc.

Maybe some of it seems a bit overkill but im self employed in IT and work from home a lot of the time.

Kymmy 08-01-2012 13:26

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You may find that the trunking with the speaker cable in might not be suitable for ethernet cables especially if the speaker is via a high power amp..

Halcyon 08-01-2012 13:37

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I also have my broadband point upstairs and have either gone through the ceiling or under the floor boards. Make sure to keep the cables away from your electricity ones if possible.
I've then gone down under the stairs to pass the cables to the floor below.
Make sure you dont bend the cables too much and be careful if you are pinning them down as you dont want to damage the cable.

*** Oh and first golden rule, before you install any long length of cable, test it to make sure it works. You dont want to take it all up again. ***

RB2004 09-01-2012 00:48

Yep I also wouldn't put any kind of power line in with data cables


I've got a bundle of cables in my ducting including coax, telephone, network but even those is pushing what should be done. But doesn't seem to be posing any noticeable problems.

Would certainly though avoid it where possible. In my case I've also got 12v CCTV power cables. Which shouldn't be there really. But because it's on a separate circuit and isolated by transformer and is not a fluctuating voltage it shouldn't be too bad.

But definitely avoid mains electrical cables as every time you switch on a light switch or appliance.. Especially things with motors like vacuum cleaners.. It causes electrical interference which will interfere with data cables..speaker cables are probably worst for interference as the electrical current is constantly changing and pulses..

TheNorm 09-01-2012 20:55

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Originally Posted by RB2004 (Post 35357577)
Yep I also wouldn't put any kind of power line in with data cables...

Even with shielded twisted pair cable?

Graham M 09-01-2012 21:59

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Properly earthed (at one end) STP would probably be OK, still not an ideal situation though, over short runs its fine, in my D-line trunking running up to my TV I have

o Power (to a 6 socket extension)
o Ethernet (to a switch)
o Speaker Cables for rear surround speakers from Pioneer Amp
o Subwoofer Cable
o Sky+ HD Twinax cable

and everything works fine :)

TuesdayWildchild 14-01-2012 10:02

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I am lucky as this old 4 storey house use to have a gas water heater on the top floor, so I left the boxing in in place after i remove the gas pipe and threaded a cat cable in it. So now I have a 40ft cable going from bottom to top. Wireded is the best way.

Waldo Pepper 19-01-2012 15:27

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Originally Posted by TheNorm (Post 35358060)
Even with shielded twisted pair cable?

Shouldn't make any difference whatsoever. Even if not shielded twisted pair, any glitch caused by a power surge would cause a TCPIP re-request on any corrupt packet.

Capricorn 28-02-2012 21:08

Re: Wired home network
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philwhite100 (Post 35352881)
Does anyone on here have a wired home network.
Our BB point is upstairs and i would like some ethernet wall sockets downstairs for when i am on the laptop as wifi is terrible in our home.
I am not really interested in Homeplug type networking to be honest but running ethernet cables around the home so they are out of sight behind walls seems like a lot of work.

I use four homeplugs (two upstairs for my imac and xbox, one downstairs for the Apple TV and one connected to the router) and they simply do a great job. The wifi connection upstairs was terrible - streaming video was a buffery stuttering mess, now its smooth as. Four homeplugs with passthru cost me £150. Who needs the hassle and expense of fixed network ports?

LSainsbury 28-02-2012 21:21

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Originally Posted by Capricorn (Post 35390222)
Four homeplugs with passthru cost me £150. Who needs the hassle and expense of fixed network ports?

A piece of cable and a couple of connectors / faceplates cost about £20.

There's your answer!

Capricorn 28-02-2012 21:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 35390237)
A piece of cable and a couple of connectors / faceplates cost about £20.

There's your answer!

Does that quote include chasing the walls out and having them replastered? ;)

LSainsbury 28-02-2012 22:04

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No....it includes a box of cable clips though!

RB2004 18-03-2012 23:39

Where possible I always recommend cables over wifi presently.. Yes wifi is great but the technology hasn't evolved enough yet to match cabled.. Cables you can run gigabit ethernet 1000tbase but presently a 300mbit wifi can expect to provide about 50mbit if you are lucky. Which is why I went for the option of wiring house in cat 5e 2 cables to each room going back to patch panel

qasdfdsaq 18-03-2012 23:46

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Originally Posted by RB2004 (Post 35402005)
300mbit wifi can expect to provide about 50mbit if you are lucky.

Funny, my 300mbit wifi provides 243mbit.

If only I were that lucky with the ladies instead of just with wifi?

RB2004 19-03-2012 15:32

How did you test that speed? To use a speedtest site you need a connection faster than 243mbit to test that.

Wouldn't go by what windows tells you that you are connected at, because you try a speed test on 100mbit Internet and you generally max out around 50mbit if you are lucky.

qasdfdsaq 19-03-2012 16:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RB2004 (Post 35402289)
How did you test that speed?

Using a UDP flooder.

Quote:

To use a speedtest site you need a connection faster than 243mbit to test that.
My connection is 1000mbit.

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Wouldn't go by what windows tells you that you are connected at,
If I went by what Windows tells me it would be 300, not 243.

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because you try a speed test on 100mbit Internet and you generally max out around 50mbit if you are lucky.
Over the internet using a speedtest site I get 169mbps


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