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This is the time of year we all do something very stupid, wether it is making a fool of yourself or have too much to drink and fall asleep in front of the telly.

BUT this also the time of year that you go to the pub and have too much to drink and let your hair down and unwind.

Whatever you do, LEAVE the car at home or walk, as if you take the biggest gamble of your life and get behind the wheel and go to the pub or a party, remember the car or motorbike is a killing machine if you have alcohol in your body, and if you are stupid and mad enough to gamble, you will end up in very serious trouble and could kill or maim someone and even lose your job.:(

To all members of this forum have a great xmas, and l hope some of my comments have made you rant, laugh or even cry then l have done something right.

But remember DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE.:)

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it's not often you post something that a) makes sense or b) I agree with, but today you've managed both :)

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:xmas:

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Don't Drink and Drive all year round should be the motto.

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And l will echo those sentiments as well.

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MaggyJ, l agree with you, but l gurrantee that at Xmas, its the worst time.

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Agreed very wise words seen what can happen first hand how dangerous this is.

I always wondered if pubs could take car keys away from the punters only issue them back if they feel they not over limit.

Read somewhere one was doing it even had a breath test machine would not hand them back unless they was under the limit.

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Just get a taxi, if you can afford to get drunk, you can afford a taxi.

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Never a truer word spoken.

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Very True words Arthur.... A very Happy Christmas to you and your Family. :)

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Perhaps he's been drinking and posting...... :D

Sensible message all the same however! :tu:

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at least if its christmas day the roads are empty ;)

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To all your family. Hope ye have a good one ;)

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Totally agree Arthur and something that as Maggy said should apply all year round. Merry xmas and happy new year to all members :).

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according to the latest survey it seems 25% of accidents are caused by drunk drivers .
which means 75% of accidents are caused by sober drivers .
so draw your own conclusions ?

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My conclusion would be that the 25% of accidents caused by drunk drivers where completely avoidable and should/need not have happened

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Assuming there isn't a 50/50 split between drivers being sober and ratted then my conclusion is drunk or drugged drivers are far, far more likely to be involved in accidents than sober drivers.

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Without knowing what percentage of drunk drivers had an accident the figures you mention are meaningless.. but you probably already knew that :doh:

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My conclusion is that either you are actively advocating drunk driving (you appear to be arguing that driving sober is more dangerous), or that you are naive enough to believe that all accidents are caused by a driver, drunk or sober.

I watched a programme years ago where they did a little experiment to show the effects of drinking on our driving abilities. It was not an exhaustive test by any means, but they had six experienced drivers drive a car simulator. They measured their performance sober, then gave them a few alcoholic drinks each (enough to push them just over the limit IIRC) and repeated the tests with the drunk drivers. Every single one attained a lower score than when they were sober.

Sorry to bust your bubble, but most drunk people are more likely to take chances, and have slower reactions than those who are sober. That's assuming they don't pass out at the wheel.

As for all accidents being caused by a driver, this is stupid. What happens if a small child runs out 6 feet in front of a driver doing 30 in a 30 limit? Who caused that accident? You appear to assume the driver would be responsible. What happens if a tree falls in the road? Is the driver responsible? Drivers are responsible for a lot of accidents, but a lot happen that they aren't responsible for as well..

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25% of accidents may be caused by drunk drivers but since drunk drivers probably account for a tiny % of drivers they're causing a disproportionate amount of mayhem.

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Some cop cars went by here xmas day very loud sirens but driving slow, so we followed them and they were just going to the police station, since lately in the last year or so their has been excessive sirens I wanted to go in and ask what they playing at but the actual police station was closed. But I will be asking them this week and have it recorded as well.

The only dangerous driving I ever see is the police, sometimes they driving at crazy speeds. They also like to turn their sirens on and off abruptly as if trying to shock people.

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I see the anti police squad are alive and kicking despite the establishments efforts to silence them :rolleyes:

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Good. I always remember burning a marked police car off at the lights.

he tried really hard too. and gave me a filthy look just because I beat them :)

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and that is the most ridiculous statement ever

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I tried drinking and driving, But I dropped all of it in my lap (so it looked like I had ? myself)

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This thread is spoiling my game of NFS:The_Run.. can;t play it unless I've had a few!

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That would be a great idea, but you can guarantee that some civil rights group would be up in arms about it......what about the human rights of the victims I say?

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What a stupid statement!!!

Sirens are there for the safety of other traffic as well as emergency vehicles. You have no idea at all why the police car was using it's sirens to go to the police station. It could have been for many reasons, including someome kicking off at the station, and officers sending an urgent assistance message.

Emergency vehicles only drive at high speeds when it is in the interest of the public to do so. They don't do it for the fun of it.

You can't switch sirens on and off gradually

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or it could have been training or them on a power trip.

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They get plenty of chance to drive around with their sirens on without having to do it for a power trip.

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Oh they do. the vehicles might not, but the person driving it does.

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Oh they do. if they think they can get away with it, they do just that.

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Of course they do, Gary.......

It's not as if they could be discipline for doing it, is it?

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I know, Hugh.

No. not if they only do it when they know they'll get away with it.

the thing is, they think you're stupid. and you wouldn't know otherwise.

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I dont troll.

I am not a person who trusts everyone in authority and in a position of power.

You have never heard of police using sirens to get to the chippy amongst other things?

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yep i've heard of police doing that ,usually from people who do not like or trust the police

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Many years ago my sister and tried an experiment.

I had a rally game on my console (Megadrive IIRC).

We both did several runs recorded the time, we then both drunk enough vodka to put us over the limit, then did the same course as before and our times were better.

OK not scientific and we would never do it on the road for real.

I remember a guy who I worked with passed his test on Wednesday, went out for a drink with his mates on Friday, and got a cab home, he then deided to show his mates how good he could drive.

He did this all the way up the road until the boys in boy pulled him over.

He was banned and made to retake his driving test again.:D

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A game though is totally different as you know.. it doesn't mind if you take to the wrong side of the road and the drink can make you take more risks which is exactly what the game calls for..

There's no excuse for drinking and being in charge of a motor vehicle and deserve everything they get if they do take that risk

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I agree. and all the ones who are caught breaking any law, were and still are fitted up :)

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And you know that for sure do you???
Or is that just your own opinion???

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You make very sweeping statements for something you obviously don't know anything about.

How on earth could they "know they'll get away with it"?

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You don't have to trust everyone in power, I certainly don't. But you can't make accusations just because you have a huge chip on your shoulder about the police

And you actually believe that do you???:rofl:.....did you know Elvis works in a chip shop?

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Exactly!

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I've actually done that test myself. But the main flaw is that on a games console you don't care if you crash or hit someone. And it is nothing like driving a real car.

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Half and half.

You assume I don't.

They don't. nobody knows they'll get away with anything. until they get caught.

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So what do you base your evidence on?

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Knowing.

are you really saying that it is a fact that not one police officer breaks the speed limit pretending that he is on a call, and probably uses his blue lights and sirens to his/their advantage?

if you are, then can you tell me if it is fact that not one police officer smokes weed? :)

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There are unfortunately dishonest people in all walks of life. But you seem to be implying that it is a regular occurance.

So I will ask you again, what evidence do you have to support your claim??

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No I didn't. you're just saying that now because you know that it's not a fact that not one police officer is guilty of it.

My mate John who is a police man.

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There will be an exception to every rule. But you can't make sweeping statements to tarnish the reputation of a whole profession, just because of a few idiots. That's like saying that all doctors are mass murderers because of Harold Shipman (or whatever his name was).


Well ask 'your mate John' if he would accept something a mate told him as evidence.

I really don't believe that you have any mates who are police officers with your view of them. And even if you did, you wouldn't have for very long if they found out the sort of things you say about them.

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There is much evidence already available; for example:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2842110/

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It's not the same thing.
someone just said this, and then you said that. and I said the other. now you're saying you were right after all.

Ok.

My view of them isn't what you want it to be to make your opinion fact.

I'll lose mates just because I said that some break the rules?

I suppose you think that not all firemen want the job to pull girls?

well some do, and I don't care if my mate Kevin the fireman doesn't want to be my friend anymore because I told you that.

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Thanks Kymmy.

I can't even remember where we had got to on the drink drive issue, and how it changed to blues & twos.

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You should do, it was you :)
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35351525-post28.html

New Years Eve tomorrow.
No drinking and driving!

and no fighting too.

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It was Crysalis actually.

But I agree with the rest of your post