UK unemployment increases to 2.64m
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16175309

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They need to put a lot on compulsory courses. they don't get counted in the unemployment figures that way. and it would look a lot less to everybody.

maybe they already are, and that's what they mean by the claimant count showing signs of slowing down.

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No matter what way we look at the employment figures for the people and families involved the economic situation will have a major impact on their families and loved ones and several years before my medical condition took over l was unemployed for a while and it can have a depressing morale sapping effect on you and your family and l do not wish it on anybody.

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I think that in a few years from now this country is going to be one where poverty is as common as what having a job once was.

there are going to be thousands more job losses, and I don't think it will ever pick up.

in the meantime we'll be looking at how we can cut cuts that have already been cut 3 times over.

it will be very depressing.

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The unemployment situation is a total disgrace for the coalition, and l blame them totally, for what they are doing with the severe cuts.

People that are made redundant, or laid off due to these cuts add to that figure, its no good members saying 'blame the previous government', its not there fault that the coalition are cutting everything going, its not the labour government making cutbacks in the armed services, the police, etc so that they can save money.

The coalition are blaming everyone else, except for themself, The course's that are being forced onto claimants are a waste of time, as l have been on them, all you do is sit in an office and learn how to write a CV or go cold calling on building sites, hoping that the company that will be there, will take you on in 12 months time.

The only way this country can get back on its feet, is stop giving contracts to oversea's companies, I was reading sad article by Paul O'Grady about the north east, who like the rest of Britain are proud people who just want work, sadly the coward of Clegg to stand up to Thatcher 2 and say enough is enough.

This country needs a government that will stop this mess.

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Of course when Labour were in power, they did such a great job in saving manufacturing jobs in the UK. Especially the North East

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...ndelson-rescue

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...okay Arthur - so wholesale nationalisation to enable the "country" to choose who they give contracts too then? How does that get paid for then?

Paul O'Grady? Lily Savage's view on unemployment in teh North East? Please provide a link I'm intrigued.

I agree on one thing - we do need a government who can sort out this mess and I'll go for the lesser of the two evils and stick with the current one.

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Pog66, It was a centre fold in The Daily Mirror the other day, This country needs works, it needs a government that will ease stupid taxes ie vat, that is crippling some businesses.

Deb Meadon said this recently, this country needs to reduce vat, bring growth into the country, when she was on Tv recently, she stated with that Muppet Ken Clark sitting on the panel, the problem is that we need a government that will bring industry back to this country, and not have companies leave this shores due to high taxes.

At the moment, Puppet Cameron and Clegg are more concerned with other countries, then there own.

The North East is a major employer for factories and major industries, but now it is just a blip on the unemployment register - if l am wrong tell me.

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You're wrong, in so many ways....

How would the job-creation be paid for if we reduce VAT?

To "create" jobs, we would either need to seed fund businesses (which would cost money) or attract overseas investors with tax-breaks or rate-relief (which would cost money).

We need more infrastructure projects, but these have to be paid for, which would be difficult if we reduce the tax revenue coming in.

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What Hugh said. Governments cannot create jobs, at least not the sort of jobs that actually make wealth for a country. All they can do is create an environment which assists start-up private businesses.

Unfortunately at the present time the obsession with EU regulations and environmental control makes it harder and harder to run a successful new venture.

I'd be happy to employ anyone who wants to work for the chinese or indian rates..

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Arthur ,youth unemployment went up by around 40% under the last labour government so you need to blame the last government as well

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Yes both governments are to blame and of that there is no doubt.

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The difference is though Den ,the current government are reacting to Labours cock ups

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l think we will have to agree to disagree on that Martyh.:)

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It's really out of the control of Governments, no matter how they like to posture. Globalisation has enabled corporations to move their manufacturing to the cheapest provider and other types of business are following that lead. We've all experienced off-shore call centres for example. And clearly many companies consider that an acceptable level of support.

Basically we're never going to have full employment for the forseeable future.

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A good start would be to stop reading that toilet paper and read something approaching a real newspaper. You'll then get a viewpoint somewhat closer to the real world and not need to ask people on a forum if you're wrong.

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To reduce unemployment, the government could start a development bank, and spend more

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And how would they fund the Development Bank, please?

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Cut something.

if it's already been cut, then cut it some more.

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Not sure you can do that when its already been cut to the bone Gary.

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Sounds good, time for the NHS to feel some pain.

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And in what areas are you proposing for these cuts to happen in the NHS.

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Or they could just hire a million extra public sector workers given how superbly it worked during the Labour government.

I'm sure our kids won't mind picking up the bill, failing that I'm sure people won't mind seeing their taxes shoot up even further punishing people yet more for being rude enough to be productive.

Halting all cuts and spending more should only require about a 25% increase on total tax burden.

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The areas that Labour threw money at which caused the value the NHS delivers for the money spent on it to actually drop.

Bringing in a nice 3rd party private sector management consultancy with the ability to hire and fire pretty much as they see fit rather than leaving self-serving middle-management cutting front line services to keep their own jobs should work.

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with money gained after a massive crackdown on tax evation, which is worth tens of billions each year

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I was think about speding more of transport porjects, like more new trains, more high speed lines, better airports etc

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l am all for cutting middle-management to protect front line services but there is only so much you can cut in the end.

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Indeed, doesn't change that there is something to cut and ring fencing it for political reasons, to the detriment of other less politically sensitive services, is very wrong.

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It's happening?

I take it you missed where George Osborne mentioned £6bn of public money for just this such a thing, along with a purported £20bn from the National Association of Pension Funds and the Pension Protection Fund.

In addition to this there's some interest from China in investing in UK infrastructure.

I appreciate it may be a weird concept getting private investment in but it works pretty well elsewhere. Maybe they have a point?

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Keep dreaming. Companies don't pay tax their customers do. Yes that's us.

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What the government spends on Transport is nowere near enough, we need far more new and extra trains for example

And we need to crack down on busineeses like Topshop from evading tax and claw back evaded taxes!

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Topshop doesn't evade tax.:rolleyes:

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It is the trust i work for is shedding quite a few jobs now and a neighbouring trust is doing the same with heavy job losses.:(

Would you like it to shed lots more?

One things for sure the private sector is not recruiting and those that lose their jobs from the NHS will still be on the government payroll collecting dole money,that in turn means they will not be spending in the shops or paying tax ,which in turn means less jobs in the private sector in itself.

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Yes things are already being cut to the bone Richard.

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Yes indeed denphone quite a few people i know well over the years are gone,and more are to follow just before christmas,the NHS is certainly not immune from heavy jobs losses despite what the daily mail may tell us.;)

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The government doesn't buy/lease the rolling stock the train service operating companies do.

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I think I know how we can fix all this. we should all give up our wages for a week. or maybe even two. in this time banks will give us a week or even the two weeks free mortgage and councils the same with rent.

supermarkets should give us free food to keep us fed for that week or two. and fuel suppliers the same with free petrol.

how much would that clear the mess we're in?

would certifying Cameron insane even help?

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Bless....

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Possibly slightly O/T, but I'm so pleased with myself at the moment I just don't care!

Hopefully soon I'll be able to do the coalition a little favour by reducing the unemployment figures by one (every little helps! :p:), because today I've just completed - and passed! - an RTITB-accredited FLT course (counterbalance), and I was so chuffed that I'd managed it, I went home without a care in the world, in the middle of a snow blizzard, and was singing "Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow" on my way! :D

I should mention in passing that I hate most Christmas songs, except that one about the spaceman calling (was it Chris de Burgh who did that one?). :p:

Word of advice to anyone doing FLT: it helps enormously if you have driving experience, as two of the blokes doing the same course discovered. I don't, and that kept bringing me up short on steering in reverse - those controls are so sensitive, and I kept oversteering. But after a couple of practice runs, I cracked it! :D

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Very well done!!!!

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Congratulations on passing with flying colours.:clap:

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In realistic terms Cameron and his puppets don't give a monkeys for the actual working class people of this country.

They are tearing the country to pieces, and at this time of year, people cannot spend money, hight street shops are closing, one shop today that my wife was in, she said the shop was empty of stock as the head office cannot bring in new stock as suppliers have run out.

This is what is happening, people can not longer afford to buy goods, it shocking and yet the puppets bring out these crazy ideas of giving money to daft idea like ' desperate families' plus in todays The Sun (Tory) states that Ken Clarke has scrapped £1.5 BILLION in fines. This is how mad the Puppets are.

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Once again - bless......

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Utter nonsense

How in the name of all that is holy is it the governments fault that the shop in question has sold out of stock ,that has to be seen as a good thing

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Arthur thinks the government should do everything for everyone, while not paying too much tax, so he sees their influence in everything I guess.

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of course ,how silly of me :dunce:

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Since the puppets have got in, how many cuts has ther been, how many businesses have gone down the plug hole, how many people have been made redundant - this is down to government cut backs,

Employment has gone up to the highest in 17 years.

Whose fault is that, or l do l live in cuckoo land.

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erm.....

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Not sure if you do, but you probably have a holiday home there....;)

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I agree with you Arthur. even if nobody else does.

I can't see Dave lasting long to be honest. whether that will be him stepping down of his own accord or what.

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Two minds thinking as none.

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and the alternative to dave would be .......

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I was thinking of Hugh?

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there's an idea ,that would realy upset Arthur :D

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This is how the economy would have looked over the last decade if it weren't for a debt bubble and Labour employing a million people on the public purse. This is how the UK economy looks when the government is not borrowing relentlessly from the next generation to buy votes.

The cuts are, actually, going to take the state back to where it was in the mid 2000's, though of course this has been explained to you more than once.

The only conclusion is that you don't have the wit to think for yourself and are quite happy to believe what the red tops, specifically The Mirror, preaches at you.

This government is doing a lot of things wrong, it doesn't change that thanks to the utter joke the previous Labour government were with the economy, which I'm sure a man of your age knows is par for the course for Labour, whomever was in power would have been cutting. Labour's plan had almost identical cuts to the current government's, a minimal difference.

Incidentally while you're ranting away merrily government expenditure actually increased in both nominal and real terms compared to last year, but carry on, it's not like facts or reality have bothered you in the past so they're not likely to start now.

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It's owner Phillip Green does

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It is increasingly interfering in the process of buying rolling stock, plus it effectly provides the money

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The sooner they call a general election the better

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That would be great on condition that Labour are required to actually give policies during the campaign rather than do what has characterised their time in opposition so far and oppose everything the government do without proposing any viable alternatives.

Lib Dems should get wiped out, which is good as they were never fit to play a roll in government as they promised a raft of things they could never deliver, Miliband get shown up as the charmless, vacuous, champagne socialist Primrose Hill boy that he is, and Cameron and Co look like the least worst of the 3 options by quite some distance.

Of course this may not matter. If Labour give enough BS people, some of whom post here, will merrily suck it up, then be demanding younger generations both pay off the ton of debt Labour chalked up bribing them for their votes while also paying them massive prices for housing and paying tons of tax for debt interest and their pensions.

You do know how small the difference between the Darling plan and the Osborne one would have been so far in terms of public spending cuts? Not much. The Balls plan is, well, balls plucked out of fantasy land by the man who, along with Calamity Brown, destroyed the UK economy.

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I feel dirty now....

(and not in a good way ;))

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They can't, due to the Fixed Term Parliament Act

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I've already got a boyfriend, thanks ;)

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So even if let say 14 Lib Dems leave the their party (enough for this government to lose its majority) and either join another party or set up their own party, will this government still not call a general election

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Acually, I feel that we should vote for none of those three main parties and teach them a lesson by voting for other parties

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And what party would you suggest as here is a link for you to discover and ponder your next political vote.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...itical_Parties

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Thats a very good idea the main political parties all offer more of the same the arguments they have in the westminster village are largely synthetic,they all believe in globalisation for instance,they all beileved also in light touch regulation for banks ,i remember George Osbourne calling for even lighter regulation in opposition around 2007 before the banks went belly up.

When it comes to smaller parties its always amazed me if we are such a Euro-Sceptic country that UKIP cannot get a single MP elected you would think the uk would be very open to a few UKIP MPs in parliament but no.

Whilst the uk continues to vote for more of the same thats exactly what it will get.

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To all those knockers of me, answer the biggest question of all - how are you going to solve the problem, or do we have a lot of Tory lovers on this forum, who only care about themself.

I don't give a monkey's who runs this country, but l get sick to death each day reading on the tv or in the papers, that unemployment is rising, companies are closing down, contracts being sold to foreign companies at the expense of the British workforce.

While the Muppet's can find billions to fund crazy schemes that won't work, There might be members out there that have great jobs and great pay packets and enjoy living under the current situation, but all those billions could be spent on something that will bring back the dignity that this country has lost.

I spoke with a builder the other day and he says that the British builders are losing there jobs everyday due to cutbacks.

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Thats a staggering claim you have just made about most forum members being Tory voters who only care about themselves as first of all most forum members are polite and very helpful and l suspect also that a considerable amount cannot stand the Tories but whoever they vote for is their own personal business and nobody elses at the end of the day.

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You must have missed the bit in the post 2 posts above yours.....

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I personally vote for the Monster Raving Loony Party :D

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That's alright. as long as the BNP don't get the votes from everyone :)

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Not even supporters of the MRLP have such bad taste as to vote for the BNP.

They're (the BNP) bankrupt and falling apart, anyway... (shame).

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To be honest, not one of those poltical parties have polcies 100% agree with, However the Jury Team and Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition are not too bad

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Well people have the right to vote for whoever they want to but l for one would never vote for any of these two.

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Love the banner headline on the TUSC webpage. btw, an interesting piece of info below the banner No wonder you like it so much....

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Well they will always blame someone but as we all know is not exactly like that in real life as there are plenty of good bosses around and a few poor ones but it can be like that in any profession from my experience but some will always moan about things no matter what.

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I don't like it that much, they are not keen on the EU!

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Not enough cuts to make any difference, where the government has gone wrong is failing to give business any confidence or help, that's why they aren't picking up the slack, still has better than those other puppets accross the floor whose bright idea of getting us out of debt is by borrowing more.