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HD Boy 03-12-2011 02:04

Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?

Jameseh 03-12-2011 03:31

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
As you've made a thread about it, yes.

richard1960 03-12-2011 06:43

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
I would say so,although undoubtedly there is some reasonable content on it.:)

denphone 03-12-2011 07:14

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Every channel is hyped to a certain extent and Sky Atlantic is no different in that respect.

RamJet 03-12-2011 07:46

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
you don't appear to have a 'Don't Know' voting alternative

denphone 03-12-2011 07:47

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RamJet (Post 35339602)
you don't appear to have a 'Don't Know' voting alternative

Yes l noticed that as well.

Sirius 03-12-2011 09:51

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RamJet (Post 35339602)
you don't appear to have a 'Don't Know' voting alternative

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35339603)
Yes l noticed that as well.


In fact can the mods add one and then reset my vote please. The vote is flawed by NOT having all the correct choices !

andy_m 03-12-2011 09:59

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
The vote is flawed any way because the question is wrong. People will answer on the basis of whether or not they want the channel-those that don't will consider it over hyped, those that do, won't.

Also, aatot. Several, in fact.

New to cable 03-12-2011 10:10

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
As Sky customer I would say Sky Atlantic is definately not over hyped. The reason I say this is because at has all the shows they said would when it launched.

BUT!! If those shows are not the kind of content you enjoy then Atlantic wouldn't have much for you so you may think its a lot of fuss over nothing. But in our house we do watch the content that is exclusive to Atlantic.

mhatter67 03-12-2011 10:40

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by New to cable (Post 35339625)
BUT!! If those shows are not the kind of content you enjoy then Atlantic wouldn't have much for you so you may think its a lot of fuss over nothing. But in our house we do watch the content that is exclusive to Atlantic.

That is what is the way I feel, from it's programme trailers nothing of interest to me, if they start introducing new SCI-FI series now that would be a different story!

Lew 03-12-2011 11:06

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Poll edited and votes reset. If you voted before you'll have to vote again.

Chad 03-12-2011 11:07

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Don't know as I don't have access to it. The programming on SKY Atlantic might justify the hype. I know my wife enjoyed Game Of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire.

HD Boy 03-12-2011 11:08

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35339639)
If you voted before you'll have to vote again.

I Can't. My vote now says "Don't know"

I would like to reset my vote and I would like to vote "Yes"

muppetman11 03-12-2011 11:28

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Sky have massive advertising budgets so I believe this to be the reason some people believe they overhype channels. Sky Atlantic contains some excellent content , the awards some of the shows have won speaks volumes ,however like many channels they have shows what merely fill the schedule.

Maggy 03-12-2011 11:44

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Shame there isn't a I don't give a rats behind choice..(sorry Lew)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35339647)
Sky have massive advertising budgets so I believe this to be the reason some people believe they overhype channels. Sky Atlantic contains some excellent content , the awards some of the shows have won speaks volumes ,however like many channels they have shows what merely fill the schedule.

Possibly because Sky have deeper pockets than everyone else?

the_pidgeon 03-12-2011 11:56

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Well it is 18 hours of star trek and xfiles :) and 6 hours of awesome gorgeousness :)

HD Boy 03-12-2011 11:58

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the_pidgeon (Post 35339654)
Well it is 18 hours of star trek and xfiles :) and 6 hours of awesome gorgeousness :)

Have you counted devils dinner party , This is Jinsy , Fish Town ? ;)

Sirius 03-12-2011 12:03

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35339639)
Poll edited and votes reset. If you voted before you'll have to vote again.

Lew

My vote has not reset i want the Dont Know option please

Digital Fanatic 03-12-2011 12:09

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
There is some good stuff on there, but it is over-hyped.

Dave42 03-12-2011 12:12

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339579)
Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?

most over hyped channel ever

muppetman11 03-12-2011 12:37

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35339660)
There is some good stuff on there, but it is over-hyped.

I pretty much agree , but let's be fair Sky advertise everything to death , just look at Sky Sports and movies.

LexDiamond 03-12-2011 12:43

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
On here it is way overhyped. It is no different to Sky 1 and if it joined VM it would probably go in to M+.

muppetman11 03-12-2011 12:45

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339657)
Have you counted devils dinner party , This is Jinsy , Fish Town ? ;)

Love how you keep quoting a daytime documentary and two other lesser shows , no mention of Boardwalk Empire , The Borgias , Entourage , Carnivale , Treme , Mildred Pierce , Six Feet under , Blue Bloods etc ;)

zekeisaszekedoes 03-12-2011 12:46

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Sky are overhyped, full stop.

HD Boy 03-12-2011 13:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35339680)
Love how you keep quoting a daytime documentary and two other lesser shows , no mention of Boardwalk Empire , The Borgias , Entourage , Carnivale , Treme , Mildred Pierce , Six Feet under , Blue Bloods etc ;)

You can get some of them on DVD/Blu ray.

Virgin Media need to get Sky Atlantic at reasonable price.

I think Virgin Media will get Sky Atlantic sometime next year and after feburary because that is how long Sky envisaged the channel being exclusive to them for.

I may be wrong.

Chad 03-12-2011 13:36

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So far the results seem to justify Virgin not getting the channel on their platform. With this type of feedback, plus SKY Atlantics less than impressive viewing figures, Virgin won't be in any rush to sign a deal with SKY.

If you had to rank the following 10 general entertainment channels, in terms of your personal preference, where would SKY Atlantic feature in that 10?

BBC 1
BBC 2
BBC 4
ITV
ITV2
Channel 4
Channel 5
SKY 1
SKY Living
SKY Atlantic

Here's mine:

1. BBC 1
2. Channel 4
3. BBC 4
4. BBC 2
5. ITV
6. SKY 1
7. Channel 5
8. SKY Atlantic
9. ITV 2
10. SKY Living

HD Boy 03-12-2011 13:44

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35339715)
So far the results seem to justify Virgin not getting the channel on their platform. With this type of feedback, plus SKY Atlantics less than impressive viewing figures, Virgin won't be in any rush to sign a deal with SKY.

If you had to rank the following 10 general entertainment channels, in terms of your personal preference, where would SKY Atlantic feature in that 10?

BBC 1
BBC 2
BBC 4
ITV
ITV2
Channel 4
Channel 5
SKY 1
SKY Living
SKY Atlantic

Here's mine:

1. BBC 1
2. Channel 4
3. BBC 4
4. BBC 2
5. ITV
6. SKY 1
7. Channel 5
8. SKY Atlantic
9. ITV 2
10. SKY Living


This is where i would place it.

BBC 1
BBC 2
ITV
SKY 1
ITV2
Channel 4
SKY Living
SKY Atlantic
Channel 5
BBC 4


You can see i do not like channel 5 and BBC 4.

muppetman11 03-12-2011 13:46

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It's amazing how many Sky Atlantic threads there have been on here seeing as people clearly don't want it :D

zekeisaszekedoes 03-12-2011 13:51

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Ah, it's just the amusement of debating the issue, probably.

Hey Chad, why isn't BBC3 on that list when BBC4 is? I like BBC3 because it plays American Dad!, which is IMO easily the best Seth MacFarlane show.

Chad 03-12-2011 13:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35339722)
It's amazing how many Sky Atlantic threads there have been on here seeing as people clearly don't want it :D

There's almost as many threads as the channel has viewers:D

HD Boy 03-12-2011 13:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35339731)
There's almost as many threads as the channel has viewers:D

LOl :D:D:D

Chad 03-12-2011 13:58

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35339726)
Ah, it's just the amusement of debating the issue, probably.

Hey Chad, why isn't BBC3 on that list when BBC4 is? I like BBC3 because it plays American Dad!, which is IMO easily the best Seth MacFarlane show.

I was going to include BBC3 but then programmes like Hotter Than My Daughter, Snog Marry Avoid and World's Craziest Fools made me think twice;)

muppetman11 03-12-2011 14:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35339731)
There's almost as many threads as the channel has viewers:D

You let Jeremy Darroch worry about that ;)

Digital Fanatic 03-12-2011 14:12

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35339672)
I pretty much agree , but let's be fair Sky advertise everything to death , just look at Sky Sports and movies.

Very true MM, they like to advertise - A LOT :D

andy_m 03-12-2011 14:26

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
I think it says something for the success of Sky Atlantic that Sky's current radio adverts now hinge on the fact that they carry Grey's Anatomy in hd.

zekeisaszekedoes 03-12-2011 14:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35339734)
I was going to include BBC3 but then programmes like Hotter Than My Daughter, Snog Marry Avoid and World's Craziest Fools made me think twice;)

Oooh, can't argue with that logic.

Excuse me while I apply :td::td::td: to all those... :D

DaMac 03-12-2011 15:08

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
If you want to watch the x-files, nearly 18 years after it first aired on bbc2, then sky atlantic is the place to be...

HD Boy 03-12-2011 15:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35339788)
If you want to watch the x-files, nearly 18 years after it first aired on bbc2, then sky atlantic is the place to be...

I think i know which option you voted for ;)

muppetman11 03-12-2011 15:23

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35339715)
So far the results seem to justify Virgin not getting the channel on their platform. With this type of feedback, plus SKY Atlantics less than impressive viewing figures, Virgin won't be in any rush to sign a deal with SKY.

If you had to rank the following 10 general entertainment channels, in terms of your personal preference, where would SKY Atlantic feature in that 10?

BBC 1
BBC 2
BBC 4
ITV
ITV2
Channel 4
Channel 5
SKY 1
SKY Living
SKY Atlantic

Here's mine:

1. BBC 1
2. Channel 4
3. BBC 4
4. BBC 2
5. ITV
6. SKY 1
7. Channel 5
8. SKY Atlantic
9. ITV 2
10. SKY Living

Just checked my planner and I have shows from the following channels , channel 5 HD , Sky 1 HD , E4 HD , Sky Living HD , BBC One HD , 5* , Universal HD, Sky Atlantic HD and Sky 3D.

Hugh 03-12-2011 15:34

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Depends what you mean by over-hyped - it is a new channel, so will be well-advertised, it has some very good programmes which you can only watch on that channel, again well-advertised.

I don't think it is any more hyped than other channels - Sky are just pointing out it's USPs.

HD Boy 03-12-2011 15:47

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35339794)
Just checked my planner and I have shows from the following channels , Universal HD,

I have a feeling that channel will come to Virgin Media next year as well as other HD channels next year.

Mainly because what i was told about the 80 HD channels target and "watch this space" on the Virgin Media electric magazine.

Tezcatlipoca 03-12-2011 16:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35339788)
If you want to watch the x-files, nearly 18 years after it first aired on bbc2, then sky atlantic is the place to be...

Although isn't that only because it inherited that and the Star Treks etc. from Virgin 1? ;)

The whole point of Sky Atlantic is to show top-notch US drama series such as Mad Men (AMC), Game of Thrones (HBO), Boardwalk Empire (HBO), etc. All the daytime filler is just... daytime filler.

I think it's a pity that Sky wasn't also able to nab True Blood (HBO) too... then people in the UK wouldn't have to wait ages for FX to show it.

Also annoying that Sky doesn't show Sons of Anarchy or Breaking Bad.

Sirius 03-12-2011 16:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339810)
I have a feeling that channel will come to Virgin Media next year as well as other HD channels next year.

Mainly because what i was told about the 80 HD channels target and "watch this space" on the Virgin Media electric magazine.

I hope it does not, VM could spend the money on getting us proper channels like Sky sports 3 and 4 in HD.

MovedGoalPosts 03-12-2011 16:44

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Sky Atlantic is only overhyped bacause the majority of UK TV viewers can't get it and very few of it's new shows have yet to make it onto a more accessible TV channel. It is a goog job that Sky don't quite have a monopoly on TV channels yet as else we'd all have to ditch VM, Freesat, Freeview or whatever if we want to see anything but X-Factor and Strictly come dancing.

As for whether the shows on Atlantic are worth watching I wouldn't know as I don't have access to them. Thus I wouldn't even know if it were worth is for VM to pay extra money to Sky for acccess to the channel that might in turn increase the cost of the VM subscriptions.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35339832)
I hope it does not, VM could spend the money on getting us proper channels like Sky sports 3 and 4 in HD.

That depends on whether you wan't to watch sports or not. Some of us prefer drama shows rather than watching a load of overpaid primadonnas chasing balls around a bit of grass.

denphone 03-12-2011 16:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35339618)
In fact can the mods add one and then reset my vote please. The vote is flawed by NOT having all the correct choices !

Exactly.

Sirius 03-12-2011 16:51

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 35339835)

That depends on whether you wan't to watch sports or not. Some of us prefer drama shows rather than watching a load of overpaid primadonnas chasing balls around a bit of grass.

Depends on the shape of the Balls :LOL:

Ignitionnet 03-12-2011 16:57

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339579)
Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?

Of course. Pretty much everything that's advertised heavily, ever, is overhyped.

devilincarnate 03-12-2011 17:08

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
How come you left this out of the title?


muppetman11 03-12-2011 17:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 35339835)
if we want to see anything but X-Factor and Strictly come dancing.

That's the main reason I enjoy these Pay TV channels , the thought of being subjected to I'm a celebrity , X Factor , Big Brother and Strictly come dancing is way too much :shocked:

denphone 03-12-2011 17:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35339854)
That's the main reason I enjoy these Pay TV channels , the thought of being subjected to I'm a celebrity , X Factor , Big Brother and Strictly come dancing is way too much :shocked:

:clap::clap:

DaMac 03-12-2011 17:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35339826)
Although isn't that only because it inherited that and the Star Treks etc. from Virgin 1? ;)

The whole point of Sky Atlantic is to show top-notch US drama series such as Mad Men (AMC), Game of Thrones (HBO), Boardwalk Empire (HBO), etc. All the daytime filler is just... daytime filler.

I think it's a pity that Sky wasn't also able to nab True Blood (HBO) too... then people in the UK wouldn't have to wait ages for FX to show it.

Also annoying that Sky doesn't show Sons of Anarchy or Breaking Bad.

Years ago the x-files and star treks where on sky 1, sky 1 still exists so when they inherited them why not put them back on there? I'll tell you why, sky bought a few big series for a lot of money, decided to launch a new channel to hype around them and hopefully get people to jump from virgin, then most of the time show a load of old trash, its like the old johny rotten quote "ever feel like your getting conned"

Hugh 03-12-2011 17:43

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35339854)
That's the main reason I enjoy these Pay TV channels , the thought of being subjected to I'm a celebrity , X Factor , Big Brother and Strictly come dancing is way too much :shocked:

Yes, I agree - we would never see any reality shows like Steps Step Back In Time, Katie, The Hunks, America's Next Top Model, The Kardashians, Must Be The Music, Louie Spence’s Showbusiness’, The Glee Project, Laguna Beach, The Hills, Jersey Shore, et al, on Pay TV channels, would we?;)

muppetman11 03-12-2011 18:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35339860)
Yes, I agree - we would never see any reality shows like Steps Step Back In Time, Katie, The Hunks, America's Next Top Model, The Kardashians, Must Be The Music, Louie Spence’s Showbusiness’, The Glee Project, Laguna Beach, The Hills, Jersey Shore, et al, on Pay TV channels, would we?;)

Good one Hugh you got me there :D , perhaps my wording wasn't the best I really meant the Sky Atlantic prime shows.

HD Boy 03-12-2011 19:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35339832)
I hope it does not, VM could spend the money on getting us proper channels like Sky sports 3 and 4 in HD.

Virgin Media could get them after the CAT Appeal. That is while away yet those.

People do want Universal HD and other HD channels going by this poll.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...ee-virgin.html

richard1960 03-12-2011 19:17

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35339854)
That's the main reason I enjoy these Pay TV channels , the thought of being subjected to I'm a celebrity , X Factor , Big Brother and Strictly come dancing is way too much :shocked:

One of the best points i have seen on here,i have never watched any of the shows you list above only seen snippets which is more then enough pap for a day.;)

Pay tv means at least you have more choice such as national geographic and discovery channels,with the added bonus of no simon cowell induced bitchiness,which is good.:)

denphone 03-12-2011 19:18

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35339899)
One of the best points i have seen on here,i have never watched any of the shows you list above only seen snippets which is more then enough pap for a day.;)

Pay tv means at least you have more choice such as national geographic and discovery channels,with the added bonus of no simon cowell induced bitchiness,which is good.:)

l will second that.

richard1960 03-12-2011 19:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339894)
Virgin Media could get them after the CAT Appeal. That is while away yet those.

People do want Universal HD and other HD channels going by this poll.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...ee-virgin.html

I think the CAT appeal only relates to price that virgin and its customers pay for sky sports(the difference at the moment between what the two want is paid into a seperate account pending the cat decision),you would have more chance of king canute successfully turning back the sea then of sky parting with sky sports 3/4 HD in my view,these channels along with sky sports news HD ect ect is what sky use to differentiate themselves from vm.

Even the 3 year OFCOM pay tv enquirey only recommemded sky gave access to sky sports HD 1/2 to other pay tv providers.:)

HD Boy 03-12-2011 19:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35339903)
I think the CAT appeal only relates to price that virgin and its customers pay for sky sports(the difference at the moment between what the two want is paid into a seperate account pending the cat decision),you would have more chance of king canute successfully turning back the sea then of sky parting with sky sports 3/4 HD in my view,these channels along with sky sports news HD ect ect is what sky use to differentiate themselves from vm.

Even the 3 year OFCOM pay tv enquirey only recommemded sky gave access to sky sports HD 1/2 to other pay tv providers.:)

You are talking about the wrong thing.
Quote:

In summary, the principal grounds of appeal on which Virgin Media relies are as follows:
1. OFCOM has failed to consider relevant matters in deciding to exclude Sky Sports 3 and/or 4 from
the scope of the WMO obligation or, alternatively, any such consideration was inadequate and/or
incorrect.
2. OFCOM has failed to impose any control on the wholesale prices that Sky may charge for the supply
of Sky Sports 1 and/or 2 where they are bundled with Sky Sports 3 and/or 4 and/or any of Sky’s
Core Premium Movie channels.
3. The methodology adopted by OFCOM to calculate the maximum prices for the supply of Sky Sports
1 and Sky Sports 2 under the WMO obligation is flawed.
4. OFCOM has made an error in the mechanism which applies to calculate the maximum prices under
the WMO obligation following changes in Sky’s own retail prices.
http://www.catribunal.org.uk/files/1...ice_080610.pdf

http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/news/1009...leases-no-one/

muppetman11 03-12-2011 19:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35339899)
One of the best points i have seen on here,i have never watched any of the shows you list above only seen snippets which is more then enough pap for a day.;)

Pay tv means at least you have more choice such as national geographic and discovery channels,with the added bonus of no simon cowell induced bitchiness,which is good.:)

Brilliant point Richard , we have pay TV in our house as we like the variety it offers as you say there are some excellent documentary channels and we enjoy sport and movies. A channels viewing figures mean nothing personally to me , take Sky Atlantic it's probably not in our top five watched channels however it's shown some excellent shows that we've enjoyed of course it has repeats and the odd trash show but find me a channel that doesnt. Most of our viewing is done timeshifted with the exception of sport , I find a PVR allows you to try a show for a couple of episodes allowing you to decide whether it's for you or not.

richard1960 03-12-2011 19:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339906)
You are talking about the wrong thing.
http://www.catribunal.org.uk/files/1...ice_080610.pdf

The WMO ( in the tribunal refers to the wholesale must offer price) vm and other pay tv operators pay for sky sports the fact is sky sports 3/4 were left out of the wholesale agreements when bundled with sky sports 1/2 ,it does in no way refer to vm not having access to sky sports HD 3/4,just the wholesale price vm pay for sky sports 3/4 now,without the HD versions.:)

HD Boy 03-12-2011 19:36

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Sky Sports News HD is being not being witheld because virgin media have access to any basic sky HD channels for increatmal wholesale price.

Sky are asking for a high price as usual.

denphone 03-12-2011 19:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339914)
Sky Sports News HD is being not being witheld because virgin media have access to any basic sky HD channels for increatmal wholesale oprice.

Sky are asking for a high price.

Of that there is no doubt.

HD Boy 03-12-2011 19:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35339912)
The WMO ( in the tribunal refers to the wholesale must offer price) vm and other pay tv operators pak sky for sky sports the fact is sky sports 3/4 were left out of the wholesale agreements,it does in no way refer to vm not having access to sky sports HD 3/4,just the wholesale price vm pay for sky sports 3/4now,without the HD versions.:)

You are wrong
Sky sports 3/4 means SD and HD versions :dunce:

Ask someone esle and they will tell you the same.

Hugh 03-12-2011 19:40

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
No, I won't

denphone 03-12-2011 19:40

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339918)
You are wrong
Sky sports 3/4 means SD and HD versions :dunce:

Ask someone esle and they will tell you the same.

Is this not a thread about Sky Atlantic HD Boy.

HD Boy 03-12-2011 19:43

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Quote:

In April, the regulator ruled that Sky must offer Sky Sports 1 and Sky Sports 2 to its competitors at a fixed price: one channel for £10.63 a month, a decrease of 23.4%, and both channels for £17.14, down 10.5%.

The basis of Sky's appeal is that Ofcom does not have the jurisdiction or power to adopt the decision under section 316 of the Communications Act 2003, and that Ofcom has failed to prove Sky has an incentive to withhold supply of the channels to its competitors.

Sky also said that Ofcom had erred in assessing the impact and proportionality of the fixed price, or wholesale must-offer obligation, and acted unlawfully in imposing the conditions.

Virgin Media has appealed because Ofcom did not include Sky Sports 3 and Sky Sports 4 in the ruling or impose on a control on the wholesale price Sky can charge for Sky Sports 1 and/or 2, when bundled with Sky Sports 3 and/or 4.
http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/news/1009...leases-no-one/

Hugh 03-12-2011 19:44

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
And what does that post have to do with Sky Atlantic, please?

muppetman11 03-12-2011 19:48

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35339930)
And what does that post have to do with Sky Atlantic, please?

Absolutely nothing just more speculation :)

HD Boy 03-12-2011 19:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35339930)
And what does that post have to do with Sky Atlantic, please?

Sorry.

I think it's only matter of when virgin media get Sky Atlantic after february 2012.

Sky always wanted Sky Atlantic exclusive for a year.

denphone 03-12-2011 19:49

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339933)
Sorry.

I think it's only matter of when virgin media get Sky Atlantic after february.

Of what month or year.

HD Boy 03-12-2011 19:53

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35339934)
Of what month or year.

Sometime in 2012.

They are in "Active Talks"

Whatever that means.

denphone 03-12-2011 19:56

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339936)
Sometime in 2012.

Seems to me its just idle speculation on your part with not a ounce of proof.

HD Boy 03-12-2011 20:00

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...15&postcount=1

Is this true ?

We will have to wait and see.

devilincarnate 03-12-2011 20:04

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339941)
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...15&postcount=1

Is this true ?

We will have to wait and see.

Check the date of the post you have linked to:rolleyes:

HD Boy 03-12-2011 20:05

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35339943)
Check the date of the post you have linked to:rolleyes:

It could still turn out to be true.

who knows.

muppetman11 03-12-2011 20:22

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339941)
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...15&postcount=1

Is this true ?

We will have to wait and see.

My parents got an advert for Sky which clearly stared Sky Atlantic Exclusive to Sky TV customers. As Hugh has said Sky are using it as a USP , Virgin Media will probably concentrate elsewhere until a time when it's offered at what their happy to pay.

HD Boy 03-12-2011 20:25

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35339955)
My parents got an advert for Sky which clearly stared Sky Atlantic Exclusive to Sky TV customers. As Hugh has said Sky are using it as a USP , Virgin Media will probably concentrate elsewhere until a time when it's offered at what their happy to pay.

I suppose they is no point in concentrating in a lost cause.

Not really that good a USP imo

devilincarnate 03-12-2011 20:34

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339960)
Not really that good a UPS imo

Postage anyone:D

gcampbell 03-12-2011 20:35

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Yes, like ALL channels it has lots of repeats but the fact is or me this has more programmes in a year than any three other channels combined - overhyped? No way.

It seems to me that many VM fans do not rate this channel because they don't like Sky rather than because the channel's content is poor.

Each to their own, but Game of Thrones urinated on any other TV programme this year.

Chad 03-12-2011 20:36

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35339966)
Postage anyone:D

Well delivered pun:p:

gcampbell 03-12-2011 20:37

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
More programmes in a year I want to watch than any three other channels combined, I should say.

HD Boy 03-12-2011 20:39

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35339966)
Postage anyone:D

Oops. :D:D

devilincarnate 03-12-2011 20:41

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339972)
Oops. :D:D

So long as you do not mention Royal Male (not William or Harry):D:D:D:D

Chad 03-12-2011 20:42

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Originally Posted by gcampbell (Post 35339967)
Each to their own, but Game of Thrones urinated on any other TV programme this year.

It certainly urinated all over anything else broadcast on SKY Atlantic, but not cable and satellite.

I think The Walking Dead on FX is roundly regarded as the American import of the year on Cable and Satellite?

HD Boy 03-12-2011 20:43

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35339975)
So long as you do not mention Royal Male (not William or Harry):D:D:D:D

LOL :D:D

muppetman11 03-12-2011 20:45

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Originally Posted by gcampbell (Post 35339967)
It seems to me that many VM fans do not rate this channel because they don't like Sky rather than because the channel's content is poor

:D:D:D that obvious is it

gcampbell 03-12-2011 20:49

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35339983)
:D:D:D that obvious is it

Very obvious :D

Yes, Walking Dead is very good but not as good as Game of Thrones imo (close second though).

Chad 03-12-2011 20:50

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Originally Posted by gcampbell (Post 35339987)
Very obvious :D

Yes, Walking Dead is very good but not as good as Game of Thrones imo (close second though).

Each to their own. Walking Dead is my favourite. Season 3 has just been commissioned:D

Tezcatlipoca 03-12-2011 20:54

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35339976)
It certainly urinated all over anything else broadcast on SKY Atlantic, but not cable and satellite.

I think The Walking Dead on FX is roundly regarded as the American import of the year on Cable and Satellite?

Boardwalk Empire has done better than The Walking Dead when it comes to critical reception and awards.

Many people have been quite critical of The Walking Dead's current (second) season, although the latest episode has gone some way towards placating them.


With AMC's budget cuts, and the firing of the original showrunner Frank Darabont, I have my doubts about The Walking Dead maintaining the quality it had in its first season.

gcampbell 03-12-2011 20:58

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Just curious, as most people on here are VM customers and don't have Sky, are there any people voting on this poll who haven't seen any Sky Atlantic programmes such as Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, The Borgias, Blue Bloods, Treme, Mildred Pierce and others?

If so, could the poll also add a "Yes, but I'm not basing my opinion on having seen any of the HBO programming on offer" option.

muppetman11 03-12-2011 21:16

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Originally Posted by gcampbell (Post 35339995)
Just curious, as most people on here are VM customers and don't have Sky, are there any people voting on this poll who haven't seen any Sky Atlantic programmes such as Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, The Borgias, Blue Bloods, Treme, Mildred Pierce and others?

If so, could the poll also add a "Yes, but I'm not basing my opinion on having seen any of the HBO programming on offer" option.

The gems on Atlantic like
Game of Thrones
Boardwalk Empire
Carnivale
Treme
Blue Bloods
Entourage
Big Love
Curb your enthusiasm

More than make up for fish town and This is Jinsy. :D

alwaysabear 03-12-2011 22:02

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35340002)
The gems on Atlantic like
Game of Thrones
Boardwalk Empire
Carnivale
Treme
Blue Bloods
Entourage
Big Love
Curb your enthusiasm

More than make up for fish town and This is Jinsy. :D

I have to agree with your list of decent series, I am fortunate to be able to watch them on my mothers Sky box, however, I would have to say that there are a lot of old series on there that have been repeated over and over.
Therefore, I would have to say Sky Atlantic is overhyped IMO. It would not be worth VM paying over the odds for this channel for so few good series.

muppetman11 03-12-2011 22:11

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35340022)
I have to agree with your list of decent series, I am fortunate to be able to watch them on my mothers Sky box, however, I would have to say that there are a lot of old series on there that have been repeated over and over.
Therefore, I would have to say Sky Atlantic is overhyped IMO. It would not be worth VM paying over the odds for this channel for so few good series.

I agree 100% , I said in an earlier post it will be a good addition and will arrive when the cost is right.

andy_m 03-12-2011 23:07

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
It's ONE channel that has some good shows on it, as well add a lot of padding, yet as I've already pointed out it's the subject of several other threads, and at least two, now, polls about whether we want it on Virgin Media on this discussion forum alone. Is it over hyped? Yes. But not by Sky, by us!

The best point I've seen made anywhere is the one which suggests that most people haven't actually seen any of the programming, yet still hold an opinion about the quality of the channel.

All I can say is that, whilst it would probably be a welcome addition, I, for one, am not struggling for content without it.

Chad 04-12-2011 02:05

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35340058)
Is it over hyped? Yes. But not by Sky, by us!

What an excellent point. I was about to agree 100% when I remembered this quote from Sturart Murphy at SKY:

“Sky Atlantic HD will be such an incredible channel: seminal, world-class, epic TV all in one place."

I agree that SKY Atlantic does have some world-class programming, but is that programming enough to justify calling SKY Atlantic "an incredible channel"? SKY Atlantic, like so many channels, is mainly populated by tired old re-runs of shows that in some instances have already had numerous runs on both pay and terrestrial TV. 2 or 3 hours a day of new and fresh award winning programming doesn't make a channel incredible.

At the end of the day my wife enjoys some of the programming on SKY Atlantic. For her alone I'd like Virgin to get the channel.

zekeisaszekedoes 04-12-2011 11:33

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Well, it depends on how you look at your viewing, really.

I've always viewed my NAS PC as a way to playlist my own channel. No breaks, good quality broadcast, all shows I enjoy. I see TiVo as an extension as that, where you can do something similar (no playlist function beyond pressing play on a single show group though; that needs adding) with a mix of old classics and exciting new programming.

Either way no one channel can offer what both of those can, even one that ran fairly original (i.e. less than five years old and/or not broadcast much) shows would still have plenty of helpings of dry, stiff turkey on the menu. Television habits are finally changing for those who are willing to embrace the technologies that break them free of disappointing broadcast schedules and a cesspool of cheap, unengageing reality shows.

Basically what I'm saying is Sky Atlantic is disappointing, but all channels are to an extent. Sky are overhyped; it's a joke that you pay premium for preferred packages and still have more ads than channels that are entirely ad-supported.

telegramsam 04-12-2011 13:36

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
As a sky customer I can tell you the channel is vastly over- hyped. I haven`t watched it for about a month now,just nothing on it that appeals to me. Virgin Media are right not to bow down to sky`s demands in their negotiations. And incidently why does sky feel the need for a F1 sports channel? Now I admit I have no interest in motor racing at all but still can`t see the need for it myself.

Alan Fry 05-12-2011 13:29

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
Sky Atlantic should come to Virgin TV

HD Boy 05-12-2011 14:26

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35340746)
Sky Atlantic should come to Virgin TV

For the right price.

Going by what you keep saying you are probably made of money.

telegramsam 05-12-2011 15:08

Re: Is Sky Atlantic overhyped ?
 
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35340746)
Sky Atlantic should come to Virgin TV

It will but only once sky realise virgin aren`t going to pay over the odds for it. And as I`ve previously said you aren`t missing much at all.


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