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Rob King 29-11-2011 11:34

Channel 5+1 to launch on December 6
 
i See Virgin Media Missed out again on new channels

Richard Desmond's Channel 5 has confirmed that a timeshifted channel of its main network will launch next week on terrestrial and satellite television.

According to BARB data and promotional adverts currently airing on television, Channel 5+1 will launch on Freesat, Freeview and Sky on December 6.

Electronic programme guide (EPG) numbers for the channel have not yet been announced.

The channel, which will air programmes such as CSI, Neighbours and children's show Milkshake an hour later than their scheduled start times, is expected to come to Virgin Media in early 2012.

Channel 5+1 will join the broadcaster's existing one-hour timeshifted channels of digital networks 5* and 5USA.

ITV launched a +1 channel of ITV1 in January this year, while Channel 4+1 has been broadcasting since August 2008.

The launch of Channel 5+1 will mean that BBC One and BBC Two will be the only main public service channels not to offer a timeshift network on digital TV platforms.

Media Boy UK 29-11-2011 11:42

Re: Channel 5+1 to launch on December 6
 
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...ecember-6.html

Channel 5 + 1 will be on

Freeview - 44
Sky - 177
Freesat - 128
Virgin - Early 2012.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/201...nch-on_15.html

Alan Fry 29-11-2011 11:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob King (Post 35337053)
i See Virgin Media Missed out again on new channels

Richard Desmond's Channel 5 has confirmed that a timeshifted channel of its main network will launch next week on terrestrial and satellite television.

According to BARB data and promotional adverts currently airing on television, Channel 5+1 will launch on Freesat, Freeview and Sky on December 6.

Electronic programme guide (EPG) numbers for the channel have not yet been announced.

The channel, which will air programmes such as CSI, Neighbours and children's show Milkshake an hour later than their scheduled start times, is expected to come to Virgin Media in early 2012.

Channel 5+1 will join the broadcaster's existing one-hour timeshifted channels of digital networks 5* and 5USA.

ITV launched a +1 channel of ITV1 in January this year, while Channel 4+1 has been broadcasting since August 2008.

The launch of Channel 5+1 will mean that BBC One and BBC Two will be the only main public service channels not to offer a timeshift network on digital TV platforms.

We have not missed out on any new channels, as you said yourself, it will be on Virgin Media in early 2012

Itshim 29-11-2011 12:13

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Last past the post again:(

Digital Fanatic 29-11-2011 12:15

Re: Channel 5+1 to launch on December 6
 
Seriously? I can't believe anyone is moaning about channel5+1 :confused:

VM have a Catch Up tv service, plus carry all the other "5" group of channels.

zekeisaszekedoes 29-11-2011 12:21

Re: Channel 5+1 to launch on December 6
 
And there was me thinking TiVo made +1 channels all but redundant. I guess other people still have to "catchup" to that fact, bad pun intended.

stereohaven 29-11-2011 12:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35337090)
Seriously? I can't believe anyone is moaning about channel5+1 :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35337093)
And there was me thinking TiVo made +1 channels all but redundant. I guess other people still have to "catchup" to that fact, bad pun intended.

Totally agree.

Who honestly needs a +1 channel when you have Demand 5? :shrug:

muppetman11 29-11-2011 12:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stereohaven (Post 35337095)
Totally agree.

Who honestly needs a +1 channel when you have Demand 5? :shrug:

And 3 Tuners :D

toady 29-11-2011 13:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35337098)
And 3 Tuners :D

Still need a +1 when TIVO can't find any other showing of the programme you want while its already recording three other things ;)

Alan Fry 29-11-2011 13:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by toady (Post 35337122)
Still need a +1 when TIVO can't find any other showing of the programme you want while its already recording three other things ;)

I would agree on that, however Channel 5 is rubbish

Jameseh 29-11-2011 14:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35337125)
I would agree on that, however Channel 5 is rubbish

As opposed to all the channels like Watch Paint Dry +1 that you seem to want?

Alan Fry 29-11-2011 14:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35337148)
As opposed to all the channels like Watch Paint Dry +1 that you seem to want?

We already have Watch +1 you fool!

HD Boy 29-11-2011 19:16

Re: Channel 5+1 to launch on December 6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35337058)
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...ecember-6.html

Channel 5 + 1 will be on

Freeview - 44
Sky - 177
Freesat - 128
Virgin - Early 2012.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/201...nch-on_15.html

It will likely be on Virgin Media channel 155 to replace Current TV.

---------- Post added at 20:14 ---------- Previous post was at 20:13 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35337148)
As opposed to all the channels like Watch Paint Dry +1 that you seem to want?

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: LOL :D

---------- Post added at 20:16 ---------- Previous post was at 20:14 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35337171)
We already have Watch +1 you fool!

That is not what he meant.

Alan Fry 30-11-2011 19:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35337372)
It will likely be on Virgin Media channel 155 to replace Current TV.

---------- Post added at 20:14 ---------- Previous post was at 20:13 ----------


:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: LOL :D

---------- Post added at 20:16 ---------- Previous post was at 20:14 ----------


That is not what he meant.

No it will take Sky Living Loves EPG

HD Boy 30-11-2011 19:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35338030)
No it will take Sky Living Loves EPG

Source ?

Really considering Current TV is closing in early 2012 and is next to the other channel 5 channels. So i think it will be on channel 155.

I could be wrong.

Stephen 30-11-2011 20:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35338034)
Source ?

Really considering Current TV is closing in early 2012 and is next to the other channel 5 channels. So i think it will be on channel 155.

I could be wrong.

His comment is as unsubstantiated as yours. Sky have posted stating the living loves is closing already.

HD Boy 30-11-2011 20:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35338110)
Sky have posted stating the living loves is closing already.

I know but that does not mean Channel 5 + 1 will be on channel 159.

Stephen 30-11-2011 20:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35338114)
I know but that does not mean Channel 5 + 1 will be on channel 159.

Neither does it mean it will be on 155.

HD Boy 30-11-2011 21:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35338119)
Neither does it mean it will be on 155.

True.

End of.

Stephen 30-11-2011 21:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35338122)
True.

End of.

So why do you keep posting stating you think it will be? :banghead:

Alan Fry 01-12-2011 09:37

Re: Channel 5+1 to launch on December 6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35338034)
Source ?

Really considering Current TV is closing in early 2012 and is next to the other channel 5 channels. So i think it will be on channel 155.

I could be wrong.

I do not want Current TV to shut down, it is a good channel

zekeisaszekedoes 01-12-2011 10:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35338128)
So why do you keep posting stating you think it will be? :banghead:

He loves the attention of riling people up, probably. I suspect some kind of trepanning would solve the problem. ;)

gba93 01-12-2011 11:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35338345)
He loves the attention of riling people up, probably. I suspect some kind of trepanning would solve the problem. ;)

Isn't that for brain surgery? :dunce:

nstokes 01-12-2011 11:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35338348)
Isn't that for brain surgery? :dunce:

and that would be a bad thing because? :D:D

also i would actaully quite like c5+1 no idea why but it would be nice, it means more channels

gba93 01-12-2011 13:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35338359)
and that would be a bad thing because? :D:D

also i would actaully quite like c5+1 no idea why but it would be nice, it means more channels

Just thought I'd play the straight man for you ;)

nstokes 01-12-2011 13:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35338452)
Just thought I'd play the straight man for you ;)

lol i like that :D

Itshim 01-12-2011 14:53

Re: Channel 5+1 to launch on December 6
 
As Tivo does not have reminders +1 is a great idea - OK OK here he goes again I know.

HD Boy 01-12-2011 14:58

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It's a matter of personal opinion if you want +1 channels or not.

Some do want +1 channels and some do not.

That is fine.

arcimedes 01-12-2011 15:56

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In fact while we're at it why cant we have HD +1 channels? :D

HD Boy 01-12-2011 16:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arcimedes (Post 35338590)
In fact while we're at it why cant we have HD +1 channels? :D

Watch Sky Living and they advertise "Sky Living HD +1" on Sky channel 121 and Virgin Media channel 111.

I think That will be the first HD +1 channel.

Maybe it'll will launch in January to replace Sky Living Loves ?

When i mean replace i mean Move Sky Living +1 to 159 and Sky Living HD +1 launch on channel 111.

I may be wrong

zekeisaszekedoes 01-12-2011 23:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arcimedes (Post 35338590)
In fact while we're at it why cant we have HD +1 channels? :D

Hmmm, that'd use a lot of broadcasting bandwidth. I know VM's fiber optic network is pretty robust and fairly future-proof, but (guessing here) I don't think that'd be quite as viable an option for Freesat and Sky.

Digital Fanatic 02-12-2011 00:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35338886)
Hmmm, that'd use a lot of broadcasting bandwidth. I know VM's fiber optic network is pretty robust and fairly future-proof, but (guessing here) I don't think that'd be quite as viable an option for Freesat and Sky.

I agree.. HD uses a lot of bandwith, so unlikely for a while I think.

Alan Fry 02-12-2011 10:37

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I think there is enough for about 400 channels in total!

denphone 02-12-2011 12:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35339036)
I think there is enough for about 400 channels in total!

And nobody can watch 400 channels

HD Boy 02-12-2011 12:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35339100)
And nobody can watch 400 channels

:clap::clap::clap:

Rob King 02-12-2011 12:44

Re: Channel 5+1 to launch on December 6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35337090)
Seriously? I can't believe anyone is moaning about channel5+1 :confused:

VM have a Catch Up tv service, plus carry all the other "5" group of channels.

i'm not moaning i'm just concerned that again Virgin Media have lost the bidding war to Sky they get all the new channels first maybe ofcom should look at that too ?

HD Boy 02-12-2011 12:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob King (Post 35339115)
i'm not moaning i'm just concerned that again Virgin Media have lost the bidding war to Sky they get all the new channels first maybe ofcom should look at that too ?

It launches on Freesat, Freeview and Sky. So This has got nothing to do with Sky.

It will replace Sky Living loves on 159 or Current TV on channel 155 in spring 2012.

Alan Fry 02-12-2011 13:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339121)
It launches on Freesat, Freeview and Sky. So This has got nothing to do with Sky.

It will replace Sky Living loves on 159 or Current TV on channel 155 in spring 2012.

Is is not that CBS action will take EPG number is 159?

HD Boy 02-12-2011 13:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35339128)
Is is not that CBS action will take EPG number is 159?

Why would not ? Considering CBS Action launches in 11 days on channel 192.

Sky Living loves does not close till january 24th.

Alan Fry 02-12-2011 13:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339131)
Why would not ? Considering CBS Action launches in 11 days on channel 192.

Sky Living loves does not close till january 24th.

what would be the EPG number of CBS Action

HD Boy 02-12-2011 13:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35339139)
what would be the EPG number of CBS Action

I just said :dunce:

Zee 02-12-2011 13:14

Re: Channel 5+1 to launch on December 6
 
Haven't watched Channel 5 for years... not really a big deal for anyone to be honest

HD Boy 02-12-2011 13:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 35339144)
Haven't watched Channel 5 for years... not really a big deal for anyone to be honest

100% agree :clap::clap:

zekeisaszekedoes 02-12-2011 13:32

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Oh bloody hell HD Boy, give the hand clap reply posts a rest would you? I thought you might have got the hint when I filled one of your threads with them, but *swoosh* right over your head.

HD Boy 02-12-2011 13:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35339164)
I thought you might have got the hint when I filled one of your threads with them,

I thought it was funny.

Alan Fry 02-12-2011 13:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35339142)
I just said :dunce:

sorry about that!

David H 27-12-2011 21:59

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First point, catchup TV is selective and don't include everything, and whatever they do have is only kept for a week. Big Brother winner's week wasn't included and took me days to find the only existing podcast.

As for Tivo, remember not everyone (including myself) has a Tivo. As they are rented rather than bought (on Virgin anyway) then until the switchover is completed I will not be spending my £3 a month thank you. I know it takes years to reach the price of buying one but they've already made thousands from our existing £70 a month fees so hardly need the extra.

But the crucial point is you can only watch something on Tivo when you remember to record it. If not, then you need +1, nothing else will guarantee seeing something.

Digital Fanatic 27-12-2011 22:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David H (Post 35351557)
First point, catchup TV is selective and don't include everything, and whatever they do have is only kept for a week. Big Brother winner's week wasn't included and took me days to find the only existing podcast.

As for Tivo, remember not everyone (including myself) has a Tivo. As they are rented rather than bought (on Virgin anyway) then until the switchover is completed I will not be spending my £3 a month thank you. I know it takes years to reach the price of buying one but they've already made thousands from our existing £70 a month fees so hardly need the extra.

But the crucial point is you can only watch something on Tivo when you remember to record it. If not, then you need +1, nothing else will guarantee seeing something.

It will arrive early in the new year, but we haven't got a firm date yet. :)

David H 28-12-2011 01:40

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Just in time for Big Brother with any luck, saves a lot of arguments if I can watch some an hour later than usual...

denphone 28-12-2011 04:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35351560)
It will arrive early in the new year, but we haven't got a firm date yet. :)

Thanks DF.:)

andy_m 28-12-2011 09:27

Re: Channel 5+1 to launch on December 6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David H (Post 35351557)
First point, catchup TV is selective and don't include everything, and whatever they do have is only kept for a week. Big Brother winner's week wasn't included and took me days to find the only existing podcast.

As for Tivo, remember not everyone (including myself) has a Tivo. As they are rented rather than bought (on Virgin anyway) then until the switchover is completed I will not be spending my £3 a month thank you. I know it takes years to reach the price of buying one but they've already made thousands from our existing £70 a month fees so hardly need the extra.

But the crucial point is you can only watch something on Tivo when you remember to record it. If not, then you need +1, nothing else will guarantee seeing something.

I know it's slightly off topic, but I just wanted to pick up on the point you make about box ownership. Unless you have an insurance plan, Sky look to charge you approx. £65 to come and fix your box for you when it goes wrong. There is no equivalent charge with Virgin.

Secondly, whilst it is often the case that a threat to leave Sky means they won't charge you this amount, the same can be often be said of Virgin customers looking to avoid the monthly Tivo service charge. And don't forget that the fact that Sky boxes use an internal power supply board made with poor quality components, unlike Tivo with it's external transformer, means you WILL need a repair with Sky at some point.

Thirdly, I left Sky after they had come out to replace my stb on three occasions, all free of charge because I threatened to leave. On the fourth occasion I needed a repair I threatened to leave if they charged me for the call out, and they told me I could go! So I did. I took advantage of the benefit of stb ownership and sold my Sky+ box. For £20.

I find it very difficult to make a compelling argument for box ownership over the Virgin model. High call out charges, hassle to get them waived and very little residual value in a used box.

kop32 28-12-2011 09:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35351665)
I know it's slightly off topic, but I just wanted to pick up on the point you make about box ownership. Unless you have an insurance plan, Sky look to charge you approx. £65 to come and fix your box for you when it goes wrong. There is no equivalent charge with Virgin.

Secondly, whilst it is often the case that a threat to leave Sky means they won't charge you this amount, the same can be often be said of Virgin customers looking to avoid the monthly Tivo service charge. And don't forget that the fact that Sky boxes use an internal power supply board made with poor quality components, unlike Tivo with it's external transformer, means you WILL need a repair with Sky at some point.

Thirdly, I left Sky after they had come out to replace my stb on three occasions, all free of charge because I threatened to leave. On the fourth occasion I needed a repair I threatened to leave if they charged me for the call out, and they told me I could go! So I did. I took advantage of the benefit of stb ownership and sold my Sky+ box. For £20.

I find it very difficult to make a compelling argument for box ownership over the Virgin model. High call out charges, hassle to get them waived and very little residual value in a used box.

Andy,

I presume you read the terms and conditions when you joined Sky?,if so you would know that after a year you would be charged for a callout/repair,will you also try and hold VM to ransom if something happens that you don't agree with (or even worse may cost you!!),I know we are all after a good deal etc but for me if Sky continue to supply the full TV experience then I am willing to pay for an insurance policy to cover my equipment,anyway, seeing as though your Mighty Eagles gave me the the best laugh all year when they beat Man Ure I will forgive you :D:D

andy_m 28-12-2011 10:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kop32 (Post 35351677)
Andy,

I presume you read the terms and conditions when you joined Sky?,if so you would know that after a year you would be charged for a callout/repair,will you also try and hold VM to ransom if something happens that you don't agree with (or even worse may cost you!!),I know we are all after a good deal etc but for me if Sky continue to supply the full TV experience then I am willing to pay for an insurance policy to cover my equipment,anyway, seeing as though your Mighty Eagles gave me the the best laugh all year when they beat Man Ure I will forgive you :D:D

Yes, I was aware of the terms and conditions, and yes, I'm aware I was arguing for something I wasn't entitled to. I make no apology for that, like you say, we're all after the best deal we can get, and there are always deals to be had when companies are desperate for your business. After all, on three out of four occasions Sky waived their fee for me and whilst I'd asked for that, it remained their decision to do so. (Please bear in mind that this isn't necessarily a criticism of the way Sky staff handled my case, more an argument that box ownership isn't in the interests of the consumer).

Put it this way, I have no problem with asking a company for a better value deal than they advertise-I don't like one size fits all solutions, I think each time you purchase a product or service it's an opportunity to negotiate with that company.

David H 28-12-2011 18:47

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I'm guessing we are all free to buy a Tivo or compatible digital recorder instead, although it wouldn't be customised to work with cable and guessing the Tivo also replaces our old unit rather than adds to them as a DVR will? I'd only go with the Virgin option as even if it has to plug in the existing unit will still presumably be designed to work with it uniquely and carry all the built in channels and tuners? I've only ever seen Sky Plus work the one time and never seen a Tivo at all.

Digital Fanatic 29-12-2011 11:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David H (Post 35351946)
I'm guessing we are all free to buy a Tivo or compatible digital recorder instead, although it wouldn't be customised to work with cable and guessing the Tivo also replaces our old unit rather than adds to them as a DVR will? I'd only go with the Virgin option as even if it has to plug in the existing unit will still presumably be designed to work with it uniquely and carry all the built in channels and tuners? I've only ever seen Sky Plus work the one time and never seen a Tivo at all.

Have a look HERE

David H 18-01-2012 20:10

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It's not absolutely obvious, but guessing it replaces the old box, especially as I remember when it was called a V+ box and certainly was a direct swap then.

Well, still no 5+1, so won't be any use for Celebrity Big Brother which is the most needed usage, although Neighbours will be a help although shown four times a day already so not exactly a problem finding a slot every day already. I suppose as Virgin aren't connected to C5 then they had no incentive to bring it on to fit CBB which is a shame and I probably won't use it for any other programmes till the new series in the summer. Better late than never but I could have been watching something else now if they'd had it, I can't be bothered recording absolutely everything as I've got more than enough stored up already.

David H 05-06-2012 19:47

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Hello everyone, although Virgin didn't take up 5+1 in time for last year's series of Big Brother people here thought it should be on by the next. Oh.

Looks like it won't happen now does it? And I have to go out soon so can't watch it at 10 like everyone on Freeview who doesn't even pay for their bloody television. Poor show Branson, really poor.

nstokes 05-06-2012 19:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David H (Post 35437390)
Hello everyone, although Virgin didn't take up 5+1 in time for last year's series of Big Brother people here thought it should be on by the next. Oh.

Looks like it won't happen now does it? And I have to go out soon so can't watch it at 10 like everyone on Freeview who doesn't even pay for their bloody television. Poor show Branson, really poor.

They do thou. TV licence

toady 05-06-2012 19:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David H (Post 35437390)
Hello everyone, although Virgin didn't take up 5+1 in time for last year's series of Big Brother people here thought it should be on by the next. Oh.

Looks like it won't happen now does it? And I have to go out soon so can't watch it at 10 like everyone on Freeview who doesn't even pay for their bloody television. Poor show Branson, really poor.

They do pay, just less than us

Richard doesn't have anything to do with getting channels, just leases the Virgin brand

Just watch it on Freeview or tvcatchup

David H 05-06-2012 20:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35437397)
They do thou. TV licence

Er, yes, I pay that as well.

I am not claiming +1 channels are a right, but more concerned our (extremely expensive, 5X as much as the TV licence on top of it) service is so slack it is causing problems no one else in the country is suffering. I don't think it's unreasonable to want to be equal to others, nothing more than that?

Peter_ 05-06-2012 21:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David H (Post 35437390)
Poor show Branson, really poor.

He will not be in the slightest bit interested in this thread or any other that mentions his name in the same breath as Virgin Media.














Now if you had used a search engine such as Google you would have found out much to your surprise that Virgin Media is just a name leased for a minimum of 10 years from the Virgin Group and that under the facade lies NTL/Telewest and apart from his company getting 7% of shares for their trouble and a little advertising that is as far as his relationship goes with the company.

Remember Google is your friend.

essjay 05-06-2012 21:24

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Sorry for a minute there I thought you were complaining about missing Big Brother !

Peter_ 05-06-2012 21:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by essjay (Post 35437469)
Sorry for a minute there I thought you were complaining about missing Big Brother !

I would happily not miss it with a Hellfire missile.:D

David H 05-06-2012 21:34

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I will give an example, I'm sure many people are aware of Richer Sounds, probably the best hifi and electrical shop in the country. That's a franchise now as well, but Julian is in touch with every branch and personally responsible for them regardless. That is called setting an example. I wish he leased NTL rather than bloody Virgin.

Peter_ 05-06-2012 21:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David H (Post 35437473)
I will give an example, I'm sure many people are aware of Richer Sounds, probably the best hifi and electrical shop in the country. That's a franchise now as well, but Julian is in touch with every branch and personally responsible for them regardless. That is called setting an example. I wish he leased NTL rather than bloody Virgin.

Well as Richard Branson has never owned Virgin Media he will have absolutely no interest in the running of the company as its not even a franchise, so your example is meaningless.

David H 05-06-2012 22:17

Re: Channel 5+1 to launch on December 6
 
The Virgin name is universal, and deliberately so. That means with power comes responsibility. The buck stops somewhere, Branson owns Virgin. What's to know beyond that? If someone used your credit card or wrote something using your name you'd be quick enough to get the blame, why should anyone else be different? It sounds like you believe he is above the rules which apply to everyone else. How can I do that as well as it sounds quite useful?

Peter_ 06-06-2012 05:18

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Originally Posted by David H (Post 35437490)
The Virgin name is universal, and deliberately so. That means with power comes responsibility. The buck stops somewhere, Branson owns Virgin. What's to know beyond that? If someone used your credit card or wrote something using your name you'd be quick enough to get the blame, why should anyone else be different? It sounds like you believe he is above the rules which apply to everyone else. How can I do that as well as it sounds quite useful?

He does not own Virgin Media so is not accountable for them in any way if you think otherwise then you should go to his tinfoil hat store.

Virgin Media is not one of his companies and therefore of little interest to him, can you find a link anywhere that says otherwise, behind the name lies NTL/Telewest where little has changed since the new name.

Lets have a reality check, I own a Ford car so if I get a speeding fine going by your analogy Ford will take the points and the fine, except we live in the real world and that does not happen.

Try googling CEOEMAIL and you will find the CEO of Virgin Media who is strangely not called Richard.

David H 08-06-2012 15:31

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The culprit is irrelevant, and it's thoroughly dishonest as a tangent that Branson is happy to put his name to something you now tell me is wrong, and misleading. But all that means is NTL are stingy and inconsiderate by not adding a service everyone else gets, and of course after 16 years on cable I now can't read Teletext at all, with no idea when that will arrive. It is pathetic.

Peter_ 08-06-2012 15:33

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Originally Posted by David H (Post 35438545)
The culprit is irrelevant, and it's thoroughly dishonest as a tangent that Branson is happy to put his name to something you now tell me is wrong, and misleading. But all that means is NTL are stingy and inconsiderate by not adding a service everyone else gets, and of course after 16 years on cable I now can't read Teletext at all, with no idea when that will arrive. It is pathetic.

He will care little for what you think as it is not one of his companies so follow my advice above and send an email to the CEO.

David H 19-08-2012 20:41

Re: Channel 5+1 to launch on December 6
 
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Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35437463)
He will not be in the slightest bit interested in this thread or any other that mentions his name in the same breath as Virgin Media.


Now if you had used a search engine such as Google you would have found out much to your surprise that Virgin Media is just a name leased for a minimum of 10 years from the Virgin Group and that under the facade lies NTL/Telewest and apart from his company getting 7% of shares for their trouble and a little advertising that is as far as his relationship goes with the company.

Remember Google is your friend.

Having just seen yet another ad for Virgin cable where they thank Richard Branson personally for the speed upgrade he's definitely up for the flowers, so if he is happy to take credit for the improvements he has to take credit for the faults regardless of how little he owns of it.

Basically once you stand up and make yourself the face of a company that's the rule of the game regardless of the details.

Stephen 19-08-2012 22:22

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Originally Posted by David H (Post 35465078)
Having just seen yet another ad for Virgin cable where they thank Richard Branson personally for the speed upgrade he's definitely up for the flowers, so if he is happy to take credit for the improvements he has to take credit for the faults regardless of how little he owns of it.

Basically once you stand up and make yourself the face of a company that's the rule of the game regardless of the details.

Its not Richard Branson they are thanking. But Usain Bolt as Branson. Its all in the details ;-)

devilincarnate 19-08-2012 22:25

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35465123)
Its not Richard Branson they are thanking. But Usain Bolt as Branson. Its all in the details ;-)

You forgot about MO as well:D:D


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