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martyh

28-10-2011 17:45

The return of Rickets

Cases of rickets have risen from 185 in 2001 to 479 in 2009 .I thought that rickets had been virtually wiped out with the use of vitamin supplements but it appears it is making a comeback because children are being smothered in sun screen and not spending enough time outside ,and when they are outside they are either in a car or covered from head to toe in clothing

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"It's very difficult for parents because they're encouraged to apply sunscreen because of the dermatological consequences of not.

Rickets causes the bones to soften and legs to bow

"But it would seem that that excess is too much for bone health and vitamin D. They're shutting out the sunshine which is causing problems with bones.
"Similarly children and adolescents don't go out as much; there aren't as much school sports and when they do go out they tend to cover up."

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16097949

TheDaddy

28-10-2011 21:38

Re: The return of Rickets

First TB makes a come back now rickets, that's progress for you...

Ramrod

28-10-2011 23:21

Re: The return of Rickets

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35322467)

First TB makes a come back now rickets, that's progress for you...

We have TB being imported from other countries.....

TheDaddy

28-10-2011 23:30

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35322509)

We have TB being imported from other countries.....

Darn right, immigrant TB comes over here, infects good honest indigenous people, bet their here illegally to...

Hugh	28-10-2011 23:38

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35322509)

We have TB being imported from other countries.....

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The increase in the number of tuberculosis cases in the UK has largely been in non-UK born groups. In 2009, these included black African (28%), Indian (27%), and white people (10%). However, 85% of individuals born overseas had lived in the UK for at least two years prior to being diagnosed, i.e. they were not recent immigrants. This suggests transmission may have occurred after they had arrived in the UK.

Poor living conditions are known to be associated with TB and, in particular, the author considers prisons to be â€œideal breeding groundsâ€. He quotes a four-year study (2004â€“07) of 205 prisoners with newly-diagnosed TB that demonstrated that, compared with all other cases in the UK during that period (29,340 in total), prisoners were more likely to be UK born (47% versus 25%) and to be white (33% versus 22%). Only 48% of prisoners diagnosed with active disease completed treatment, and 20% were lost to follow-up.

danielf

28-10-2011 23:45

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35322515)

Darn right, immigrant TB comes over here, infects good honest indigenous people, bet their here illegally to...

That's one part. The other part is increased travel. Brits going over there, contracting deseases and bringing them back home as if they were bounty.

TheDaddy

28-10-2011 23:57

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35322519)

That's one part. The other part is increased travel. Brits going over there, contracting deseases and bringing them back home as if they were bounty.

Hmm I was joking. Although to be fair, it wasn't that funny. :tiptoe:

danielf

29-10-2011 00:29

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35322521)

Hmm I was joking. Although to be fair, it wasn't that funny. :tiptoe:

Neither was mine to be honest...

Maggy

29-10-2011 10:25

Re: The return of Rickets

So kids should be outside in the summer..

mertle

29-10-2011 10:44

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This would effect calsium levels too would it.

Taf	29-10-2011 11:32

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Sessions on UV sunbeds for kids?

Oh no, they just banned that.

Maggy

29-10-2011 12:51

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35322605)

Sessions on UV sunbeds for kids?

Oh no, they just banned that.

No they just need to go out and play in the fresh air and sunshine a lot more.Frankly slathering on sunscreen to go out for a 20 minute play break on a sunny afternoon is possibly overkill,which is what seems to be advocated in many primary and infants schools.

The issue just needs some basic common sense.Adding vitamins to food cost money and sunshine is free.

martyh

29-10-2011 17:43

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35322645)

exactly right ,when i was a kid (no computers and only one tv)we just played outside ,we didn't use any vitamin supplements and i didn't get rickets ,rarely got ill either with colds or infections

Hugh	29-10-2011 19:30

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35322821)

exactly right ,when i was a kid (no computers and only one tv)we just played outside ,we didn't use any vitamin supplements and i didn't get rickets ,rarely got ill either with colds or infections

When I were a kid (no electricity or only one book), we just played on rubbish heaps, we didn't use food or medicine, rarely got ill either with colds or infections*

*Mostly dead from malnutrition and disease.....;)

TheDaddy

29-10-2011 20:11

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35322863)

Wow Hugh, you are so old :D

Hugh	29-10-2011 20:16

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I just had a hard paper round.....

Osem	29-10-2011 21:08

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35322645)

No they just need to go out and play in the fresh air and sunshine a lot more.Frankly slathering on sunscreen to go out for a 20 minute play break on a sunny afternoon is possibly overkill,which is what seems to be advocated in many primary and infants schools.

The issue just needs some basic common sense.Adding vitamins to food cost money and sunshine is free.

An increasingly rare commodity it seems these days.....

Maggy

29-10-2011 21:27

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This just doesn't apply to older children,babies and toddlers need some gentle sunshine too this being the age when rickets can begin.20 minutes on a summer afternoon with a paddling pool and little clothing several times over the season will be more than enough.

They were recently saying that pregnant women were not getting enough vitamin D and that short periods of arms and legs and head being uncovered to the sun, two or three times a week during the summer should be enough.

I personally don't sunbathe but when I am out in the sun, it is only for short 20 minute walks and I don't bother with sunscreen.If I was going to be out for longer I would consider it but apart from the late summer spurt this year I cannot think anyone was at risk of melanoma for not using sunscreen at every opportunity.

Hom3r

29-10-2011 22:28

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35322467)

First TB makes a come back now rickets, that's progress for you...

The trouble is to meny antibiotics are being used, and bugs are becoming immume to them.

One hospital is using Copper door handles and taps kill 95% of superbugs in hospitals

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...#ixzz1cCzZX28C

TheDaddy

29-10-2011 23:05

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35322941)

I don't think over use of antibiotics are to blame for rickets return or even TB's come back and copper door handles won't save us from either of them.

Osem	30-10-2011 00:01

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Those copper handles and taps won't last long..... :erm:

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