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Hom3r 12-10-2011 12:01
Roast puppy for dinner, anyone?
 
TV chef Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall has declared that eating puppy meat is no more morally objectionable than consuming pork.

http://news.sky.com/home/showbiz-news/article/16086766

In the UK we see Dogs and cats as pets, so we don't eat them.

But what about mr bunny?

In peru they eat guinea pigs.

FYI. the only meat i eat is streaky bacon, and pork sausages (preferably in greggs sausage rolls).

My dad went to Hong Kong, and he saw loads of dogs and cats in cages, and they we definately NOT for pets.

Kymmy 12-10-2011 12:05
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It's simply cultural.. We see white furry bunnies as pets yet a brown rabbit in a field is a potential food source to a lot of people including myself. Where as in some countries even the white furry bunnies are destined for the pot.

Dog and cats will not be seen as a food source here unless something goes serious wrong with the UK food supply..

denphone 12-10-2011 12:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35314262)
TV chef Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall has declared that eating puppy meat is no more morally objectionable than consuming pork.

http://news.sky.com/home/showbiz-news/article/16086766

In the UK we see Dogs and cats as pets, so we don't eat them.

But what about mr bunny?

In peru they eat guinea pigs.

FYI. the only meat i eat is streaky bacon, and pork sausages (preferably in greggs sausage rolls).

My dad went to Hong Kong, and he saw loads of dogs and cats in cages, and they we definately NOT for pets.


How horrible.:shocked::shocked:

Kymmy 12-10-2011 12:28
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I think the word "puppy" is the thing that shocks the most.. If you called it "young canine meat" then it would lose most of the shock value as you wouldn't be seeing a little Labrador pulling behind it a toilet roll..

Look though at Snails and frogs legs in France, locusts in Africa/Asia, grubs in Australia and even the concept of haggis and black pudding in this country..

Dai 12-10-2011 12:32
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What Kymmy said. These are cultural values instilled from an early age. For example 20 miles from Dover it's perfectly normal to eat horse meat.

What's the difference between meat from a horse and meat from a cow?

Pauls9 12-10-2011 12:34
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Originally Posted by DaiNasty (Post 35314271)
What Kymmy said. These are cultural values instilled from an early age. For example 20 miles from Dover it's perfectly normal to eat horse meat.

What's the difference between meat from a horse and meat from a cow?
Err - you wouldn't eat cow meat in India?

As you all say, it's simply the culture of the country.

Kymmy 12-10-2011 12:39
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Originally Posted by Pauls9 (Post 35314272)
Err - you wouldn't eat cow meat in India?

As you all say, it's simply the culture of the country.
Exact same way as some cultures and religions will not touch pork or any other animal that forages in the earth for food.

If people got hungry enough then although you probably wouldn't eat your own pet a lot of people would start getting tempted by any other doggies running wild.

Same way as a lot of people would find a way round their religion if eating pork or beef meant survival.. Remember it has happened before with even humans eating humans even in modern day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay...rce_Flight_571

BenMcr 12-10-2011 12:57
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If you surveyed the UK public it would be the following:

Baby Dogs = Eeeew

Baby Sheep = Pass the mint sauce

denphone 12-10-2011 13:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35314285)
If you surveyed the UK public it would be the following:

Baby Dogs = Eeeew

Baby Sheep = Pass the mint sauce
Yes exactly.

danielf 12-10-2011 13:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35314262)

My dad went to Hong Kong, and he saw loads of dogs and cats in cages, and they we definately NOT for pets.
Well he was wrong (as the slaughter of dogs and cats for consumption is illegal in HK). I've been to HK several times, and not seen any evidence of Dogs/Cats being eaten. Obviously, this doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but it's certainly not widespread and in your face.

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Originally Posted by wiki
Hong Kong
In Hong Kong, the Dogs and Cats Ordinance was introduced by the Hong Kong Government on 6 January 1950,[34] it prohibits the slaughter of any dog or cat for use as food, whether for mankind or otherwise, on pain of fine and imprisonment.[35][36] Four local men were sentenced to 30 days imprisonment in December 2006 for having slaughtered two dogs.[37] In an earlier case, in February 1998, a Hongkonger was sentenced to one month imprisonment and a fine of two thousand HK dollars for hunting street dogs for food.[38]
I have seen it on the menu in Vietnam, and know one person who ate it in Korea though.

Kymmy 12-10-2011 13:19
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Ever ate a hot dog ;) I doubt if there's ever been a dog in them but gawd knows what else that you'd never imagine eating..

Hom3r 12-10-2011 14:04
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When I said my dad went to hong kong that was as a courier, and he lived of MacDonalds for a week.

He didn't eat any "local meat".

Tuftus 12-10-2011 14:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaiNasty (Post 35314271)
What's the difference between meat from a horse and meat from a cow?
Horse is generally tougher apparently.

v0id 12-10-2011 14:07
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I remember a few years back our local council banned the sale of kangaroo meat, because it was deemed 'cruel' http://scrobble.myby.co.uk/img/em/mustard/rolleyes.gif

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35314285)
If you surveyed the UK public it would be the following:

Baby Dogs = Eeeew

Baby Sheep = Pass the mint sauce
Don't forget to add baby cows to the poll (veal)

danielf 12-10-2011 14:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35314334)
When I said my dad went to hong kong that was as a courier, and he lived of MacDonalds for a week.

He didn't eat any "local meat".
Oh dear, what a shame. Though not all HK food is to anyone's liking (chicken feet anyone?) HK is a wonderful place for all sorts of food from all over the world.

devilincarnate 12-10-2011 14:31
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Not Poodle :D:D:D:D

Gary L 12-10-2011 15:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaiNasty (Post 35314271)
What's the difference between meat from a horse and meat from a cow?
One tastes like chicken, and the other doesn't.

beeman 12-10-2011 15:40
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35314387)
One tastes like chicken, and the other doesn't.
you must bee eating some very strange chickens :P I personally would describe horse meat as a ritcher version of beef (very similar flavour just stronger with the horse).

Chris 12-10-2011 15:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 35314336)
Horse is generally tougher apparently.
It is, a little. ;) Even so, you would be unlikely to be able to tell the two apart unless you had a highly developed palate, or were tasting them side by side.

devilincarnate 12-10-2011 15:46
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35314418)
It is, a little. ;) Even so, you would be unlikely to be able to tell the two apart unless you had a highly developed palate, or were tasting them side by side.
Or unless you had half of each:erm::D:D:D

peanut 12-10-2011 15:49
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Yum.... :drool: :p:

Gary L 12-10-2011 15:52
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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35314422)
Yum.... :drool: :p:
I suppose it was too much to ask for them to put some onions and sauce on it.

Taf 12-10-2011 16:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 35314336)
Horse is generally tougher apparently.
Horse meat is very tender, almost fat free and tastes like beef used to in the UK. But you can overcook it of course and get the shoe leather effect you get with beef.

The only objection I have to horse meat is the way the Chevaline (Horse Butcher shop) puts the beast's head outside to announce the availabilty of horseflesh.

Peter_ 12-10-2011 16:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35314334)
When I said my dad went to hong kong that was as a courier, and he lived of MacDonalds for a week.

He didn't eat any "local meat".
Well Mcdonalds like to buy from local farmers so you never know.:D

danielf 12-10-2011 16:23
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I've only (knowingly) ever had smoked horse meat. It's very nice. :drool:

Escapee 12-10-2011 16:35
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One of my ex gf's was from the Philippines, she said that although in her experience eating dogs was not widespread, she had been to beach parties where they would cook a dog over a fire.

She said it was usually stray dogs or naughty dogs that were eaten, and that the saying was that brown dog tasted better than black dog.

devilincarnate 12-10-2011 16:56
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Most would complain about this as well?

http://haggishunt.scotsman.com/recipe.cfm?recipe=6

Chris 12-10-2011 17:08
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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35314453)
Most would complain about this as well?

http://haggishunt.scotsman.com/recipe.cfm?recipe=6
Mmm, haggis :drool:

We have a 1lb specimen in the fridge right now, can't wait. :D. We also offer haggis slice on our B&B breakfast menu instead of black pudding and it's really quite popular.

dilli-theclaw 12-10-2011 17:14
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I'd much rather have haggis too it must be said. Natalie is not convinced however (On either I mean)

boltondigger 12-10-2011 17:18
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I would have no problem eating any meat ,so long as it has been humanely dispatched.

Deer
Dog
Sheep
Horse ,whats the difference ?

devilincarnate 12-10-2011 17:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35314463)
Mmm, haggis :drool:

We have a 1lb specimen in the fridge right now, can't wait. :D. We also offer haggis slice on our B&B breakfast menu instead of black pudding and it's really quite popular.
I'am coming to stay at yours:D:D:D:D

Hom3r 12-10-2011 17:27
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Well a lot of Americans believe that a haggis is a small creature with shorter legs on one side of its body, so it can run around a hill without falling.

Taf 12-10-2011 17:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boltondigger (Post 35314469)
I would have no problem eating any meat ,so long as it has been humanely dispatched.

Deer
Dog
Sheep
Horse ,whats the difference ?
Around here many of the butchers and fast food outlets only provide halal meat now, so I'm boycotting those that admit to it. One "western" butcher says 99% of whole and portioned chickens are halal now, there is hardly any choice any more. :td:

Oddly, a flyer was posted through the door recently that exclaimed "All our meats is halal" (sic). And the first item on the menu was ham and pepperami pizza!

devilincarnate 12-10-2011 17:37
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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35314493)
Around here many of the butchers and fast food outlets only provide halal meat now, so I'm boycotting those that admit to it. One "western" butcher says 99% of whole and portioned chickens are halal now, there is hardly any choice any more. :td:

Oddly, a flyer was posted through the door recently that exclaimed "All our meats is halal" (sic). And the first item on the menu was ham and pepperami pizza!


Have you got this correct:erm:

TheDon 12-10-2011 17:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boltondigger (Post 35314469)
I would have no problem eating any meat ,so long as it has been humanely dispatched.

Deer
Dog
Sheep
Horse ,whats the difference ?
What about human?

Hugh 12-10-2011 17:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35314509)
What about human?
Mmmmmmmmmm - long pig ;)

Gary L 12-10-2011 17:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35314509)
What about human?
Now that one does taste like chicken. it's easier just to get a chicken.

boltondigger 12-10-2011 17:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35314509)
What about human?
Life or Death situation ? i would prob go Yes if 100% necessary .

Tuftus 12-10-2011 17:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35314463)
Mmm, haggis :drool:

We have a 1lb specimen in the fridge right now, can't wait. :D. We also offer haggis slice on our B&B breakfast menu instead of black pudding and it's really quite popular.
Where are my car keys? I may just make up there in time for breakfast :D

Being born on Burns Night, this is a favourite of mine :tu:

Hom3r 12-10-2011 18:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35314509)
What about human?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35314514)
Now that one does taste like chicken. it's easier just to get a chicken.
Yes it does, and these would tell you, as they've eaten human flesh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay...rce_Flight_571

Taf 12-10-2011 18:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35314505)

Have you got this correct:erm:
Oops! Sorry... meant peperoni.... it's still a bit of a (porcine) animal ;)

Kymmy 12-10-2011 18:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35314540)
Yes it does, and these would tell you, as they've eaten human flesh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay...rce_Flight_571
Yep, I said that in post #7 ;) :p:

denphone 12-10-2011 19:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35314463)
Mmm, haggis :drool:

We have a 1lb specimen in the fridge right now, can't wait. :D. We also offer haggis slice on our B&B breakfast menu instead of black pudding and it's really quite popular.
Yes l must admit Haggis is lovely now and again but certainly not many of the other dishes mentioned in this thread.

multiskilled 12-10-2011 19:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35314514)
Now that one does taste like chicken. it's easier just to get a chicken.
I always assumed human tasted like pork, hence the term long pig to describe it.

Kymmy 12-10-2011 19:18
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Let's just say that students have investigated it's taste in the past..

Tezcatlipoca 12-10-2011 19:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35314262)
In peru they eat guinea pigs.
I went to Peru in 2003, and it was rather strange (for me) seeing roast guinea pigs being served up on spits... I also remember seeing cages and cages of them at the bus station in Cusco, and thinking "they're not heading for pet shops..."

I couldn't bring myself to try guinea pig. The only "funny" animal I tried over there was alpaca (a sort of llama type animal), but that's nothing like trying an animal normally considered a pet in your own country.

Still, as others have probably said (I haven't read the rest of the thread yet), it's a cultural thing.

danielf 12-10-2011 19:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35314625)
I went to Peru in 2003, and it was rather strange (for me) seeing roast guinea pigs being served up on spits... I also remember seeing cages and cages of them at the bus station in Cusco, and thinking "they're not heading for pet shops..."

I couldn't bring myself to try guinea pig. The only "funny" animal I tried over there was alpaca (a sort of llama type animal), but that's nothing like trying an animal normally considered a pet in your own country.

Still, as others have probably said (I haven't read the rest of the thread yet), it's a cultural thing.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/10/44.jpg

Hom3r 12-10-2011 20:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by multiskilled (Post 35314615)
I always assumed human tasted like pork, hence the term long pig to describe it.

I guess that may be true as some women have said men are pigs :D

Kymmy 12-10-2011 20:46
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I very stupidly just put "Cannibalism" into wiki and got

Quote:
Cannibalism by performance artist

In 1988 performance artist Rick Gibson became the first person in British history to legally perform an act of cannibalism by eating a canapé of donated human tonsils in Walthamstow High Street, London, England.[20][21] A year later he publicly ate a slice of legally purchased human testicle in Lewisham High Street, London, England.[22][23] When he tried to eat another slice of human testicle in Vancouver, Canada in 1989, he was stopped by the police.[24][25] However, the charge was dropped and he finally ate a testicle hors d'œuvre in Vancouver in 1989
:sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:

devilincarnate 12-10-2011 20:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35314700)
I very stupidly just put "Cannibalism" into wiki and got



:sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
You have found me out then:D:D:D:D

denphone 12-10-2011 20:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35314700)
I very stupidly just put "Cannibalism" into wiki and got



:sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:

l think l am going to take one of my anti sickness pills.:sick::sick:

Kymmy 12-10-2011 21:00
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Talking about tasting like pork if you read the wiki apparently it tastes like veal..

Going back though to the original topic you have to remember that we are omnivores and quite capable of eating anything on the planet that would give us sustenance, Whether that be vegetable or animal. A dog is simply something that we as Britons have decided to remove from our diet where as some cultures never got to that step.

TheDon 12-10-2011 21:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boltondigger (Post 35314519)
Life or Death situation ? i would prob go Yes if 100% necessary .
I'd try it even if it wasn't life or death.

Meat is meat.

I'm not exactly going to go killing people to try it, but if there was a way of legally obtaining human meat I'd give it a go.

Jimmy-J 12-10-2011 21:39
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I wonder if this cute little puppy Sausage dog tastes like sausage? I'll be right back!

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/10/43.jpg

Kymmy 12-10-2011 21:50
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I wonder how many more times that picture will be posted in this thread.. :D

See post #22

Gary L 12-10-2011 21:50
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Put some onions and sauce on it, Jimmy.

tizmeinnit 13-10-2011 12:41
Re: Roast puppy for dinner, anyone?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35314700)
I very stupidly just put "Cannibalism" into wiki and got



:sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
there is of course Placentophagy. I know the placenta is naturally expelled from the body but it is still human and this has been consumed by some for a long time

---------- Post added at 13:41 ---------- Previous post was at 13:37 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35314735)
I'd try it even if it wasn't life or death.

Meat is meat.

I'm not exactly going to go killing people to try it, but if there was a way of legally obtaining human meat I'd give it a go.
Problem with cannibalism is the problems it can cause after.Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease or CJD was found to be passed amongst cannibal tribes through eating human brains


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