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Sirius 02-10-2011 18:14

One less paedophile
 
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16080895

**********Breaking News***********

A prisoner who was found dead in a cell had been jailed for the rape of a 13-year-old schoolgirl, Sky sources have said.

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Mitchell Harrison, originally from Wolverhampton, was convicted at Carlisle Crown Court last year.

The 22-year-old was given an indefinite prison sentence and was serving time at HM Prison Frankland in Durham.

But on Saturday morning, Harrison was discovered dead in his cell by staff at the prison.

He had suffered multiple injuries.

Two other inmates are being questioned over his death which is being treated as murder.

A third man who was arrested by detectives is no longer being held in connection with the incident.

I will not be shedding a tear over this.

Gary L 02-10-2011 18:20

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How come we never jump for joy when a rapist is found dead in his cell? :)

I think this one was moidered,

martyh 02-10-2011 18:26

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35308904)
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16080895

**********Breaking News***********

A prisoner who was found dead in a cell had been jailed for the rape of a 13-year-old schoolgirl, Sky sources have said.




I will not be shedding a tear over this.

does however raise questions about prison security and how the murder suspects were allowed in the victims cell by the prison staff .I suspect that some of the staff at the prison will be a tad worried they are going to end up in prison themselves

Sirius 02-10-2011 18:32

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35308911)
does however raise questions about prison security and how the murder suspects were allowed in the victims cell by the prison staff .I suspect that some of the staff at the prison will be a tad worried they are going to end up in prison themselves

Did not realise they had been allowed into his cell by prison staff, Where did it say that in the news report ?

I agree it raises questions but to outright accuse staff when you have no proof they did allow the murderers in the cell is a big leap to take.

martyh 02-10-2011 18:47

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35308916)
Did not realise they had been allowed into his cell by prison staff, Where did it say that in the news report ?

it didn't,prisoners such as Harrison don't generally mix with the general population and all the cells are single ocupancy so the suspects where allowed in his cell .I know a few people who have had a holiday there and it's not a pleasant place .

Sirius 02-10-2011 18:48

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35308924)
it didn't,prisoners such as Harrison don't generally mix with the general population and all the cells are single ocupancy so the suspects where allowed in his cell .I know a few people who have had a holiday there and it's not a pleasant place .

Good, Why should it be pleasant ;)

Anyway far as i am concerned justice has been done.

martyh 02-10-2011 18:57

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35308925)
Good, Why should it be pleasant ;)

Anyway far as i am concerned justice has been done.

and i echo that sentiment ..in this case ...as the "victim"was guilty so no tears shed here ,but i would rather the justice be dished out by the relavent authorities as prisoners don't usually check the facts before dishing out their own justice and there is always the chance that an innocent will get hurt/murdered

TheDon 02-10-2011 19:07

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<pedant>She was 13, it's not paedophilia unless they're pre-pubescent</pedant>.

I don't see why we should celebrate mob justice. Especially when given out by other criminals.

Sirius 02-10-2011 19:12

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 35308932)
<pedant>She was 13, it's not paedophilia unless they're pre-pubescent</pedant>.

I don't see why we should celebrate mob justice. Especially when given out by other criminals.

I am not celebrating if i was celebrating i would have added one of these :cleader:

I have said i would not shed a tear and i felt justice has been done, There will be others who do not agree with me and that is the nature of forums. If we all agreed it would be a boring forum :)

martyh 02-10-2011 19:21

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35308935)
I am not celebrating if i was celebrating i would have added one of these :cleader:

I have said i would not shed a tear and i felt justice has been done, There will be others who do not agree with me and that is the nature of forums. If we all agreed it would be a boring forum :)

My main concern is if the guards where in colusion then what else are they up to ,are they allowing drugs and other contraband into the prison as well as allowing prisoners a bit of prison justice .Maybe over the next few weeks we will hear a lot more of this because one prison beating that went too far has opened a big can of worms

Peter_ 02-10-2011 19:21

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35308932)
<pedant>She was 13, it's not paedophilia unless they're pre-pubescent</pedant>.

I don't see why we should celebrate mob justice. Especially when given out by other criminals.

It was still rape regardless of her age and he would have been put on the sex offenders list for life regardless of him being jailed indefinitely.

He was jailed for rape and I therefore cannot shed a tear over a person of his kind regardless of him being murdered more than likely because of his vile crime against the girl and probably many more victims.

TheDon 02-10-2011 19:34

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35308943)
It was still rape regardless of her age and he would have been put on the sex offenders list for life regardless of him being jailed indefinitely.

He was jailed for rape and I therefore cannot shed a tear over a person of his kind regardless of him being murdered more than likely because of his vile crime against the girl and probably many more victims.

I must have missed the bit where I said it wasn't rape.

The thread title isn't one less rapist though is it?

No one is saying shed a tear, but the apparent revelling in the murder of someone as if it's a good thing is something I just cannot get behind.

denphone 02-10-2011 19:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35308904)
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16080895

**********Breaking News***********

A prisoner who was found dead in a cell had been jailed for the rape of a 13-year-old schoolgirl, Sky sources have said.




I will not be shedding a tear over this.



l will second that.:tu:

Peter_ 02-10-2011 19:49

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35308945)
I must have missed the bit where I said it wasn't rape.

The thread title isn't one less rapist though is it?

No one is saying shed a tear, but the apparent revelling in the murder of someone as if it's a good thing is something I just cannot get behind.

I was saying it was rape regardless of the fact that she was not pre pubescent, and I do not care if he was a paedophile or not as I will not shed a tear for him.

iFrankie 03-10-2011 00:50

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I feel sorry for the victims families that Nathan Mann killed what will they be going through hearing this news?!

I am praising no one, especially a double murderer.

Sirius 03-10-2011 06:05

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Originally Posted by iFrankie (Post 35309053)
I feel sorry for the victims families that Nathan Mann killed what will they be going through hearing this news?!

I am praising no one, especially a double murderer.

I am very :confused:

Russ 03-10-2011 07:51

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Word is doing the rounds that he was stabbed in the eye, had his throat slashed and was disembowelled.

Derek 03-10-2011 10:16

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35309090)
Word is doing the rounds that he was stabbed in the eye, had his throat slashed and was disembowelled.

Ouch! That'll sting a bit. :shocked:

budwieser 03-10-2011 17:48

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Karma`s a Bitch isn`t it.!
He Raped a 13 year old girl and was sentenced to an indefinate sentence.
I think he recieved his true retribution myself.

martyh 03-10-2011 17:53

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35309428)
Karma`s a Bitch isn`t it.!
He Raped a 13 year old girl and was sentenced to 4 1/2 years! Whats that all about then? I think he recieved his true retribution myself.

not true ,he was jailed indefinately for 2 counts of rape on the same girl and told to serve a minimum of 4 1/2 yrs before applying for parole

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Harrison, whose last known address was in Cumbria, pleaded guilty to two counts of rape at a court hearing and was sentenced at Carlisle Crown Court and was told he was being jailed indefinitely and would serve at least four-and-a-half years before even being considered for parole

Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north...#ixzz1Zk5oqidX

devilincarnate 03-10-2011 17:58

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35309090)
Word is doing the rounds that he was stabbed in the eye, had his throat slashed and was disembowelled.

Have they now got their Butchers License :erm: At least that we have got one less **** off of the streets:D

budwieser 03-10-2011 18:03

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35309431)
not true ,he was jailed indefinately for 2 counts of rape on the same girl and told to serve a minimum of 4 1/2 yrs before applying for parole

Sorry Martyh, I did actually edit my post a minute after posting, you`re not going mad mate!:D

martyh 03-10-2011 18:11

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35309440)
Sorry Martyh, I did actually edit my post a minute after posting, you`re not going mad mate!:D


honestly thought i was cracking up :D

Anyhoo according to my local news there's going to be a full inquiry about how this could have happened ,possible dodgy prison guards and all that

devilincarnate 03-10-2011 18:13

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Originally Posted by martyh;35309442[/QUOTE
possible dodgy prison guards and all that

I HAVE NEVER KNOWN THIS HAPPEN:erm: Not much Really:erm:

budwieser 03-10-2011 18:23

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How can some ******* who`s told he`s going to jail `Indefinately` be told that he can apply for parole after 4 1/2 years? Surely indefinately is until he dies!

devilincarnate 03-10-2011 18:23

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35309448)
How can some ******* who`s told he`s going to jail `Indefinately` be told that he can apply for parole after 4 1/2 years? Surely indefinately is until he dies!

He did:erm:

danielf 03-10-2011 18:26

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35309448)
How can some ******* who`s told he`s going to jail `Indefinately` be told that he can apply for parole after 4 1/2 years? Surely indefinately is until he dies!

Erm no. Indefinite is for an undefined time, not infinite.

martyh 03-10-2011 18:28

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35309448)
How can some ******* who`s told he`s going to jail `Indefinately` be told that he can apply for parole after 4 1/2 years? Surely indefinately is until he dies!

As Danielf said ,plus that type of sentance is more often used in these type of crimes as it is very hard to tell if the inmate will be safe to be let out again

tweetiepooh 03-10-2011 18:29

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James 2:13 For he who shows no mercy will have judgement given against him without mercy; but mercy triumphs over judgement. (Weymouth New Testament)

The man had been found guilty and was being punished according to the law of the land.

budwieser 03-10-2011 18:38

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 35309456)
James 2:13 For he who shows no mercy will have judgement given against him without mercy; but mercy triumphs over judgement. (Weymouth New Testament)

The man had been found guilty and was being punished according to the law of the land.

What mercy did he show the 13 year old girl?

He got his punishment. He won`t do it again.;)

bw41101 03-10-2011 18:51

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Methinks for anyone who has seen the movie The Lovely Bones (recently shown on Film 4) this particular individual should meet the same fate as the paedophile portrayed within same.

Retribution - gravity assisted!

Si thee :Sprint:

Sirius 03-10-2011 18:57

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35309463)
What mercy did he show the 13 year old girl?

He got his punishment. He won`t do it again.;)

None what so ever,

Thanks to those two guys a **** bag rapist has been dealt with. :tu:

Stuart 03-10-2011 19:10

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And yet again, the paedophile gets the easy way out. He's dead. He isn't going to suffer. His victim still will be though.

iFrankie 03-10-2011 19:29

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35309479)
None what so ever,

Thanks to those two guys a **** bag rapist has been dealt with. :tu:

Praising someone who was in jail for murder and yet he murders again, i just don't get it.

budwieser 03-10-2011 19:29

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35309496)
And yet again, the paedophile gets the easy way out. He's dead. He isn't going to suffer. His victim still will be though.

But Stuart, He`s no longer a threat to children is he. How is being banged up a punishment? It`s been a cushy ride for quite a few years now. There is NO deterrent in this country anymore, there never was unless you stole money or jewellery!

I should think that he suffered and bloody well deserved it as well.:)
If someone attacked or raped a member of my family, they would get worse than he recieved.:cool:
Judge and flame me all you want people. It`s what i would do.;)

devilincarnate 03-10-2011 19:41

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35309496)
And yet again, the paedophile gets the easy way out. He's dead. He isn't going to suffer. His victim still will be though.

And if he had not died what would have he had (3 Square meals, A room with TV and all the other crap that they get).

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Originally Posted by iFrankie (Post 35309518)
Praising someone who was in jail for murder and yet he murders again, i just don't get it.

Why:confused: I think that you need to get out more:erm:

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35309520)
If someone attacked or raped a member of my family, they would get worse than he recieved.:cool:
Judge and flame me all you want people. It`s what i would do.;)

In regards to this I got done for smashing the hell out of my sisters ex partners car, After he hit her and scared the hell out of my mother. I got a 12 month discharge and £1000 compensation to pay?

Stuart 03-10-2011 19:45

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35309522)
And if he had not died what would have he had (3 Square meals, A room with TV and all the other crap that they get).

How about knowing he'd caused someone harm ? How about the fear that the next breath he takes may be his last? In this case he no longer feels remorse (assuming he did) or fear. He feels nothing. In the meantime, it's made no difference to how his victim and her family feel..

iFrankie 03-10-2011 19:46

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35309522)
And if he had not died what would have he had (3 Square meals, A room with TV and all the other crap that they get).

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Why:confused: I think that you need to get out more:erm:

:rolleyes:

Anyhow, the hole story is sick and messed up, the rapist should of spent all his life in prison because obviously he was a high risk offender, he should never of been killed because i think no one ever deserves to be murdered no matter how wrong the things they did.

devilincarnate 03-10-2011 19:47

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35309537)
How about knowing he'd caused someone harm ? How about the fear that the next breath he takes may be his last? In this case he no longer feels remorse (assuming he did) or fear. He feels nothing. In the meantime, it's made no difference to how his victim and her family feel..

It is closure as they know that he will not do anything to the family again:erm:

Stuart 03-10-2011 19:47

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35309522)

Why:confused: I think that you need to get out more

Depends who he was in jail for murdering.. You could be congratulating someone who murdered someone who was totally innocent.

iFrankie 03-10-2011 19:50

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35309541)
Depends who he was in jail for murdering.. You could be congratulating someone who murdered someone who was totally innocent.

My point exactly, this news will affect the families Nathan killed in probably a negative way :/.

All murder is wrong and i believe its worse than anything else, don't judge me!.

devilincarnate 03-10-2011 19:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iFrankie (Post 35309539)
:rolleyes:

Anyhow, the hole story is sick and messed up, the rapist should of spent all his life in prison because obviously he was a high risk offender, he should never of been killed because i think no one ever deserves to be murdered no matter how wrong the things they did.

He did spend all his life behind bars:erm: He should have been killed as I still think that it is an eye for an eye. He took away a child's innocence? My partner was raped when she was younger now try and live with this and see what you feel about it:mad: Try and comfort your partner every now and then:mad:

See how you feel:mad:

budwieser 03-10-2011 19:56

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Originally Posted by iFrankie (Post 35309548)
My point exactly, this news will affect the families Nathan killed in probably a negative way :/.

All murder is wrong and i believe its worse than anything else, don't judge me!.

ifrankie, So, Killing a paedophile who raped a 13 year old girl is a bad thing to do? When he got released, `if ever` say he did it again and screwed up another poor innocent childs life? What then ifrankie.?

iFrankie 03-10-2011 19:58

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35309550)
He did spend all his life behind bars:erm: He should have been killed as I still think that it is an eye for an eye. He took away a child's innocence? My partner was raped when she was younger now try and live with this and see what you feel about it:mad: Try and comfort your partner every now and then:mad:

See how you feel:mad:

You have no idea what i have gone through as a child so don't you dare through judgement on me.

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35309555)
ifrankie, So, Killing a paedophile who raped a 13 year old girl is a bad thing to do? When he got released, `if ever` say he did it again and screwed up another poor innocent childs life? What then ifrankie.?

Life imprisonment without parole, i know that wouldn't of been possible but it should be that.

Peter_ 03-10-2011 19:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35309550)
He did spend all his life behind bars:erm: He should have been killed as I still think that it is an eye for an eye. He took away a child's innocence? My partner was raped when she was younger now try and live with this and see what you feel about it:mad: Try and comfort your partner every now and then:mad:

See how you feel:mad:

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35309555)
ifrankie, So, Killing a paedophile who raped a 13 year old girl is a bad thing to do? When he got released, `if ever` say he did it again and screwed up another poor innocent childs life? What then ifrankie.?

I can understand how you both feel but you have both been on here long enough to have read about iFrankies own issues so do all calm down including you Frankie.

devilincarnate 03-10-2011 20:01

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Originally Posted by iFrankie (Post 35309556)
You have no idea what i have gone through as a child so don't you dare through judgement on me.

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Life imprisonment without parole, i know that wouldn't of been possible but it should be that.

I put judgement on all? And now one is exempt from what I say?

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35309562)
I can understand how you both feel but you have both been on here long enough to have read about iFrankies own issues so do all calm down including you Frankie.

Sorry I have not reads about frankies history, Sorry about it all then.:(

budwieser 03-10-2011 20:04

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35309562)
I can understand how you both feel but you have both been on here long enough to have read about iFrankies own issues so do all calm down including you Frankie.

"ifrankies own issues"? Sorry, but i have`nt seen a thread about what happened to him.:erm: Can someone give me a link to a post please?

iFrankie 03-10-2011 20:06

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35309563)
I put judgement on all? And now one is exempt from what I say?

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Sorry I have not reads about frankies history, Sorry about it all then.:(

I'm sorry also, i just think death of anyone is terrible, i see were people are coming from and i understand.

If the government got their backsides in gear and implemented life terms for people like this we would all be better off.

Peter_ 03-10-2011 20:11

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35309571)
"ifrankies own issues"? Sorry, but i have`nt seen a thread about what happened to him.:erm: Can someone give me a link to a post please?

They have been in the happy and sad threads over the years so do not worry if you missed them as iFrankie knows I have seen them and that is enough, no worries Budweiser.

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35309563)
I put judgement on all? And now one is exempt from what I say?

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Sorry I have not reads about frankies history, Sorry about it all then.:(

No you are right to feel angry who would not with your history, good that you are there for your partner which is more important.

devilincarnate 03-10-2011 20:12

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Can we all just now say thank you MASQUE.

Peter_ 03-10-2011 20:14

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35309580)
Can we all just now say thank you MASQUE.

I just did not want this getting into a slanging match and the mods getting the lump hammer out on you guys.:D

martyh 03-10-2011 20:14

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As i have hinted at in previous posts i am not sorry that this man is dead ,i will not shed a tear .My main concern is ,are the prison guards helping other inmates to deal out this "justice" and if so are the guards helping the prisoners in other ways by turning a blind eye to contraband entering the prison such as booze,drugs and phones ,thus making thieving ,murdering ,raping *******s' lives easier on the inside ..something we all moan about .
In simple terms ,if prisoners want to kill each other ,tough don't go to prison ,but i do not agree with the prison guards helping them or making life easy for them

iFrankie 03-10-2011 20:15

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Ty masque.

:d;)

budwieser 03-10-2011 20:25

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35309584)
I just did not want this getting into a slanging match and the mods getting the lump hammer out on you guys.:D

Hi Masque, no-ones got in a slanging match tonight so why would the mods get involved?:)

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35309585)
As i have hinted at in previous posts i am not sorry that this man is dead ,i will not shed a tear .My main concern is ,are the prison guards helping other inmates to deal out this "justice" and if so are the guards helping the prisoners in other ways by turning a blind eye to contraband entering the prison such as booze,drugs and phones ,thus making thieving ,murdering ,raping *******s' lives easier on the inside ..something we all moan about .
In simple terms ,if prisoners want to kill each other ,tough don't go to prison ,but i do not agree with the prison guards helping them or making life easy for them

Hi, Nobody has said that the Prison guards turned a blind eye to anything mate. :)

Peter_ 03-10-2011 20:28

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35309596)
Hi Masque, no-ones got in a slanging match tonight so why would the mods get involved?:)


No they did not but it got aereated so good to mention it I thought as you all had valid points to make about this case with varied views which is better.

budwieser 03-10-2011 20:30

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35309602)
No they did not but it got aereated so good to mention it I thought as you all had valid points to make about this case with varied views which is better.

Ok, Cheers mate. Nice to see it from another perspective. ;)

martyh 03-10-2011 20:35

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35309596)
Hi Masque, no-ones got in a slanging match tonight so why would the mods get involved?:)

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Hi, Nobody has said that the Prison guards turned a blind eye to anything mate. :)

No they haven't but it is something i strongly suspect given that Frankland is a category A prison with single ocupancy cells and with all the attacks on other prisoners (Ian Huntley being one) i think that something is very wrong there

LondonRoad 03-10-2011 20:37

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A true story for those who seek revenge when dealing with paedos. ENSURE THERE ARE NO WITNESSES.

A family member is currently serving 6 months because he took retribution on a perv who interfered with his, then 7 year old, daughter. The perv is still walking the street (although he's had another couple of doings since).

The lad has no previous but society dictates that justice must be done so he's missed the birth of his 3rd child, first son, and being separated from his wife and 2 young daughters.

One paedo - five victims. :mad:


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