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working at virgin media? anyone as a Project coordinator?
hi there;
i'm going to start my job in couple of weeks time in VM as a project coordinator, actually it was suppose to start two weeks ago, but they keep changing the starting dates and i didnt get the package offer, i got this job thru a recruitment agency. passed de interviews, submitted ma docs.i asked agency and they said VM will decide de package for me based on xperince and education.. and agency will forward it to me. soo just wana know, does anybody have such experince? or hd work in past through any agency at vm? and did de realy do such things ? or im just a special case, xmas isnt tht far soo i'm worrying now, i dnt hv another option:( ...soo does any body knows how much de pay for such role ? or package details ? etc . cheers. |
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Hope your co-ordinating is better than your spelling!
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I too though was wondering if the OP will use the same sort of text speak in reports or work based communications?? |
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You will go far :rolleyes: |
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Based on my experience, SOME VM employees appear to believe that this sort of attitude is acceptable and the norm.
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To do that, you should be able to gather information, take feedback, and collate it into an easily understandable format - txtspk is not that medium. btw, as a technical person of over 30 years experience, who has a team of over 130 techies (networks, servers, desktops, coders, etc), I can definitely say none of them use txtspk in work emails and reports. |
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This is clearly a wind up guys, surely. It's someone's feeble attempt to try and bad mouth VM by making consumer's think that they employ nice chaps like uzi ;).
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you'll get on with people up top at vm, their very nice people. that said professionalism is required. you come across as half hearted which isn't something vm look for, heck anyone at the moment so take criticism on board.. it will aid you not destroy you. consider yourself lucky to have the job, highly skilled staff members at BAE are being kicked out of their jobs to name just one case in this mess were in.
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Depends on what area of the business your working in, coordinators can vary from £13k to £25k on average depending on experience and type of work. A Project Coordinator is quite a varied role and can either be administrative or Technical, my role for example is totally different to a project coordinator for VM Business.
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I blame a mixture of text speak, spell check and the ridiculous "London English" that many of them like to talk to sound "gangsta" or "street" :mad: |
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Richard, no one said posters were breaking any Forum rules - but nice attempt at a straw man, anyway....;)
btw, my statement wasn't a complaint, it was a comparison...... |
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I still don't understand the point of your comparison :confused:
Most posters on forums represent nobody but themselves, posters who declare that they work for a particular employer have an additional responsibility to ensure that they do not bring their employer into disrepute. In essence, most posters are answerable to nobody (as long as they abide by the law and t&c's of the site owner). A poster who chooses to declare who his/her employer is leaves themselves open to disciplinary action if they aren't careful about what views they air and/or how they express themselves. I have noticed that some people who work for VM make a statement that their posts are made as an individual and may not be representative of VM. Whilst this, in fact, may be true, this statement would provide little defence during disciplinary proceedings or at an employment tribunal (ET). I know this because an ex bar manager of ours hit a woman in another persons bar whilst off duty. She was immediately dismissed as we do not employ people who indulge in such behaviour. We were also very keen to avoid any bad publicity for the business. The ET dismissed her claim for unfair dismissal on the grounds that, even though she was off duty in a different bar, she was well known as one of our managers and that her conduct reflected on our company. It was also noted that she had broken her "duty of trust" towards her employer. The OP has, in my view, by the very nature of their post, including the tone and content, tarnished the image of VM. VM management do monitor internet forums, so I would suggest that s/he thinks again before posting such comments in that fashion again. RC |
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You should also be aware that the forum team also post on here as themselves but if in bold it is as part of the moderating team. We all post within the boundaries of the forum and if we did not then we would be brought back into line. In fact I have no idea who you are actually aiming your comment at in this thread anyway so would you care to enlighten us to the post or wording you found offensive. Read my signature below. |
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I am referring to post number 1 and his/her subsequent postings. If a VM employee had posted a message to me like that, I would soon be in touch with senior management. I still believe that the disclaimer would be no defence in disciplinary proceedings or an Employment Tribunal if management decided that you had posted something inappropriate. I have been reassured that such disclaimers are not a passport for staff to be rude or disrespectful to customers, nor for the company to be painted in a bad light. For example, your disclaimer states "The postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent Virgin Media's positions, strategies or opinions." What if you decided that "your opinion" was that VM is a bad company to work for, that you hated working for them and posted to say so. Do you really think that management would dismiss this as merely "your opinion" and take no action ;-) Fortunately, common sense and courtesy prevail in the vast majority of cases and it is seldom that postings from VM employees are an issue :) |
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Yes, the appalling way that it is written and the subsequent arrogant, immature and rude remarks do not do anything to promote VM as a credible company who employ personnel of a high calibre.
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I'm not.
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In what way is my statement ironic? I don't understand, please don't post in riddles :-)
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The problem with putting notices in your signature (and I realised I do it as well) is that members can opt not to have signatures displayed. That, and people frequently ignore them even if they are displayed. |
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I never realised that signatures could be hidden! Not that it matters, as I just have them displayed anyway :)
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I can only think of 2 issues that could potentially cause problems for a VM staff poster on here.... if member of VM staff was to post something of a business sensitive nature or was posting off brand or negative remarks about the business.
We have a code of practice to work to and VM ask us to put the disclaimer in our sigs. They have verified with VM lawyers and they say it is enough to show we are not posting in an official capacity. The reason we declare we are staff is to stop anyone thinking we are working under cover as staff. |
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I don't see why anybody should have to say where they work- I don't!
If people think you are working undercover, so be it! Still, I can see where verification that someone does actually work for VM is useful when advice is being given. The problem with that is that VM staff can be compared with staff in the real world, who, for example, may be wearing a VM uniform. An example of this was when a fortnight ago a "Street Marshall" was in one of our clubs in his uniform after finishing work. He was drunk and dancing, but not causing any trouble. Before long one of his bosses turned up and was overheard to tell him to "go home, look in the mirror and have a word with himself". Thankfully an informal word in his ear was all that was deemed neccessary (and, in my experience, is what resolves most workplace problems). Imagine a similar scenario had a VM installer had been in the club whilst still in uniform and (for the purposes of comparison) had a "my views are my own" disclaimer on the back of his jacket. He may be off duty and acting in a personal capacity, but, like it or not, anything that he does indirectly represents VM If he had begun to annoy people, they would have associated him with VM and i'm sure management would have something to say on the matter. It's for the same reason that company vans encourage other road users to report selfish drivers of company vans (who may not actualy be breaking the law)- they represent the company. |
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By declaring that I work for VM, I have been able to help many a customer/poster with problems. If I didn't say who I was, then most posters would say "and who are you?" "how can you raise a ticket?" "how do you know that...?" It just saves having to explain every time that you are staff and can actually help. I liked helping customers on here... :erm: |
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Richard, it seems that you are trying stop VM employees from disagreeing with you by deploying specious propositions (as above) - you appear to be confusing "daring to disagree with you" with "bringing VM into disrepute", and you try to inflate the impact of posting behaviours by comparing them with being drunk & disorderly whilst in uniform.
It has been explained to you a number of times that VM management have agreed a forum signature / behaviour guidelines for those VM staff who wish to post on this and other forums - just because you disagree with those guidelines, doesn't make them wrong...;) If any posters, including VM staff, break the forum rules (which include insulting or inappropriate behaviours), they are warned and/or infracted (and in extreme cases, suspended or banned) - this has not been deemed necessary in any of the discussions involving you and VM staff. |
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Finding it odd that VM would employ someone in a fairly responsible position through a recruitment agency?
From working in a large corporation myself, that's not usual for anything higher than factory/clerical type positions of a temporary nature. |
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From my point of view, VM has politely requested I make it known I work for VM .. in doing so I advertise that I maybe able to offer support to other forum users.
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You do realise the the OP is not a member of staff and nor are they using a signature to say that they are a member of staff. |
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The comparison was made to compare a similar situation in my working life. Incidentally, it was not inflated. The person in question was not being disorderly and innapropriate posting behaviour could have far more serious ramifications for VM staff than dancing in a nightclub whilst in uniform. I did/do not need any explanations re VM forum policy. I am perfectly aware of it as a senior manager at VM is a close friend of mine and we have discussed this subject in the past. Notwithstanding this, I think you will find that staff who upset or annoy customers and/or paint the company in a bad light, without necessarily breaching VM policies, will be dealt with. Only a fool would risk causing problems for themselves in the workplace for the sake of seeing what they can get away with on a forum. I have less interest in the forum rules than I have in ensuring that VM staff behave appropriately- a lot of money has been spent keeping this company afloat to keep staff in employment. What I find most intriguing and "ironic" is why a moderator would wish to try and stir things up on a forum that they work on. I appreciate that your comments were not in bold, but, that further strenghtens my view that it is impossible to disassociate oneself from differing roles in life and could lead to accusations of unprofessionalism. Quote:
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The OP could simply have posted complete nonsense, with the intention of discrediting VM for some reason. It is interesting to note that s/he has not returned since. |
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Very true, if this person has ended up working for VM, I personally don't think that the attitude and conduct displayed on here makes them suitable.
I shall have a discreet word in someones ear. Why should one rotten apple spoil the whole crop ;) |
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Disagreeing is not trying to stir things up - funny how when you disgree with people, you don't view it in the same light....;) |
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Thanks for reaffirming the forums stance :tu: |
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In case anyone missed it, let me reiterate Cable Forum policy so there are no misunderstandings.
Unless someone is using Cable Forum to break the law, we will not pass anyone's details on to Virgin Media or any other organisation. The obvious exception to this is if we are approached with a court order demanding we pass over information. To date this has never happened. Regardless of who anyone knows (or who they think they know), nobody - and I repeat nobody - will obtain any personally identifying information from us about any of our users. |
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You do work on this forum, albeit in a voluntary capacity. In any case, regardless of whether you get paid or not, you should behave professionally. You are entitled to disagree with me or anybody else, however, I do not believe that talking in riddles and stirring things up is an appropriate way to conduct oneself, moderator or otherwise. I am still waiting for an explanation to your comment that my criticisms of the OP were "ironic". Please explain. I also do not want this thread to give the impression that there is a huge problem with VM staff and their conduct on forums. In the vast majority of cases, staff help out customers in their free time and this is to be applauded. I have only ever known three instances where I considered staff behaviour to be inappropriate. The first two were dealt with almost immediately by a retraction and an apology and the third individual was spoken to by management. This incident was eventually sorted out satisfactorily, but, unfortunately, I believe this damaged his promotion prospects. |
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Despite your claims of bravado, Virgin Media will not be able to identify anyone posting on here unless that individual has made their identity known by other means. We've had this situation several times in the past and each time it has amounted to nothing. Quote:
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They know who they are and they made a fool of themselves. |
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not trying to blow my own horn so-to-speak but i think i gave a decent enough reply which the op would of taken on board. if by chance the op was stuck up and didn't; i'm sure the said person meeting VM would of realized the company holds values opposite to those views the ordinary person has. if the OPs attitude persists in said position then VM themselves would raised questions.
RichardCoulter; can I ask whether or not you've been a VM employee before or even been in contact with heads up top at VM at any point prior to this? |
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Hugh IS a member of the admin team and I find it bizarre that he should want to stir things up on a forum that he works on :confused: Re: the individual who was reported. It wasn't a case of doing it to benefit myself, it was a case of doing the right thing to protect the reputation of the company (and at the same time the jobs of the hardworking and loyal majority). I agree that a quiet informal word is initially the best way to deal with problems. In the vast majority of cases, no further action is required. Quote:
I do not see how any of this is relevant to yourself as, if you behave appropriately towards VM and it's customers, none of this matters. Additionally, you have not declared that you work for VM on your sig. This leads me to believe that you are either not a VM employee, or, are failing to comply with the forum policy. Which is correct? |
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btw, I think that your reply was fine too. Apologies re the sig, my mistake :) |
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The subject of getting VM staffers in trouble over what they post on CF ends here and now. Any further discussion on it will see posts deleted and infractions issued. |
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I cannot see any posts that Hugh deemed were not appropriate and have thus far never questioned or appealed against any of his moderator decisions. Proud is not a word I would use to describe my feelings after being left with no choice but to take appropriate action against an individual. I was, however, happy that the public face of VM had been improved and, hopefully, that the individual concerned had been given a chance to develop their personal growth and development by way of an attitude adjustment. I agree with your view about politicians and that this subject has run it's course :) To clarify, I am a supporter of this forum and have offered both donations and sponsorship to help it continue long term. |
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Regrettably it seems people don't know when to stop. This thread which was supposed to be about a new VM employee asking about their potential role at the company has been unecessarily diverted. Time to close it.
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To further clarify - while we are always pleased to hear that people wish to support us, we do not accept donations or sponsorship from any members, and havent for many years. :) |
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I see you reported my post, the report has been dismissed.
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