'Slaves' freed from gypsy camp
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...herts-14871318

Quite shocking!

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Even more shocking is 227 views and no replies, oh well I guess it's a matter of turning a blind eye and pretending it doesn't happen.:rolleyes:

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More shocking still is:

28 reports in under 3 years ... and nothing done.

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At face value, all too reminiscent of the catalogue of reports of harrassment made to the police by Fiona Pilkington (the mother of the disabled girl who was eventually driven to suicide/infanticide). I can't help feeling that whilst the police have become ultra sensitive to hate crimes directed at certain groups (e.g. ethnic, religious), others such as the disabled, vulnerable and disadvantaged often get a very raw deal.

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No I think that this is shocking part of this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...herts-14878624

Or do they fear the reprisals?

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Travellers getting into mass BDSM :confused:

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Very very true

What the driving school?:confused:


Oh that is BSM ( Sorry ):erm:

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That's why there needs to be a full police investigation of the circumstances to establish the facts. The fact that 28 other people have, over the years, apparently made complaints to the police that they were held against their will does seem to indicate that some people have been held against their will however. As I understand it some of the people involved are 'vulnerable' adults and may be in no position to appreciate what may have been done to them. Others may be too frightened to try to escape or even speak out honestly due to threats etc. That's been known to happen in people trafficking cases involving illegal immigrants and sex trade workers. These people may not have been chained up but that doesn't mean they weren't being cynically exploited and abused like so many others have and will continue to be.

UK 'slaves' transported overseas
 

Seems like this sort of thing is not only happening here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16836065

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I'm wondering how far this has spread and how long it may have been taking place.

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Me too. Heard an 'expert' being interviewed on BBC radio this morning who claimed thet HMG's action with regard to slavery were fixated on migrants within the UK as opposed to vulnerable UK citizens outside it. It seems the authorities aren't really on the lookout for this sort of thing.

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This is actually old news. The report came out last September

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The original post on this thread was also last September. The BBC's investigation about UK citizens being trafficked overseas has only just come out AFAIK.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...herts-22433982

Good!

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thing is with these 'travellers' is why do they always stay in the same place?

:mad:


I have seen them in a fitness first car park before now

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They do travel, they travel to the nearest scrap metal yard with the metal they FIND lying in the street ;), They travel to peoples houses to lay dodgy drives with a 1mm layer of tarmac. :)

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The government should look into this, I'm sure there's very many people that could be " forced " into work

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I notice the BBC is studiously avoiding the word "travellers". Is that because the slavers are not travellers this time?

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To be honest I hadn't thought about who the culprits are, just thought this thread would be the right place to post the link.

Found this:

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/new..._for_13_years/

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-24240487

Wonder what else will come to light. :erm:

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This mob are a lawless bunch, an associate from one of the classic car clubs I attend lives in that area. He claims that some of the liberal residents pander to them and are friendly with them because they are very much afraid of them, they do it in the hope that they will ee them as friends and not rob them or be violent to them.

I also provoked a look of horror from a keen cyclist in work when I mentioned that I was going to use the cycle route to Cardiff that passes this camp. (On this occasion it wasn't because I don't look that fit)

He told me that his local cycle club in Cardiff warns members not to cycle along that route because these 'Stay Putters' have on more than one occasion physically attacked cyclists on the road outside the camp and stolen their bicycles.

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I wandered through a semi-permanent camp near York a couple of years ago whilst walking the dog, one advised us to beware of some of the dogs on site.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25046624

Appalling but the tip of an iceberg I reckon, especially in certain communities.

Perhaps a friendly passing Mod could alter the thread title to something more general and appropriate e.g. Modern Slavery or something similar.

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I think there's something not right about the recent one in London, I mean how did they manage all of a sudden to use a phone to get in touch with the charity who informed the Police? Why didn't they manage to do it years ago? To top it all off the people have been released on bail.

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I know. and they "eventually left the property when the occupants weren't around"

"It was a very emotional time. When we got the message they were outside the front door, the whole call centre erupted in cheers and there were tears, and everyone was incredibly emotional to know we had helped to rescue three ladies who had been held in such horrific conditions."

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what are they doing bailing someone like this??

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why phone a charity and not 999

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They were allowed certain limited freedoms IIRC but no doubt felt totally controlled by their captors having lived in that manner for 30 years. We have no idea if they were effectively 'brainwashed' or just paralysed by fear due to threats to themselves or their extended families for example. I heard the woman from the charity who rescued them say that, IIRC, the only reason they found out was that one of the women heard about them on TV/radio and eventually plucked up the courage to call. Even so, apparently, it took some weeks before she felt able to fully open up about what had been going on and for arrangements to be made to free them.

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obviously this is appalling but this is something else...

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Apparently the couple who've just been bailed were arrested in the 1970's but the police are refusing to elaborate. Makes you wonder why they bothered mentioning it... :confused:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25055337

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how much does a slave cost (loin cloth included)

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How much you got?

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