How happy are you with Virgin's TV service
 

How happy are you with Virgin's TV service and my answer is l am happy with most of it but it could do better in several areas like SD and HD content and better communication with customers.

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That sums up my feelings too.

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Why does this seem like that this forum is now becoming a VM bashing forum. As most of the threads are like this now?

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Very happy or i would not have had 3 tivo's installed.

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l have never been a Virgin basher because all l have done Devil is facilitate debate and discussion on a range of threads and allow forum members a chance to voice their views and vote in a range of polls.

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There are some leading questions going on here, my guess i the next one will be:

Who is the worst cable company in the UK?

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Well we cannot please everybody Clint.:)

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:angel:

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I'm quite happy, more HD channels and getting TiVo to work properly would make me Very happy

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I am quite happy with the TV service most of the channels i watch seem to be there plus music on demand which i use,i would think vm could always add more content,but now Red Button on sky sports seems to be sorted i am quite happy with the service.:)

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I am happy with the TV Service

I has all of my needs covered

andrewlutonuk

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Den I was not picking you out but as I have said that a lot of these threads now seem to have the VM bashing themes to them? Also I have said before that is why Me and a few others no longer post on here as much as we used to:(

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You have to remember that like anything we pay for in life whatever it is people are entitled to have a opinion on it whether its good and bad and people will never stop that Devil as customers pay a lot for their services be it TV services or any other service.:)

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But there is a difference, imho, between "having an opinion" and "constant whinging" - ymmv....:)

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What most people seem to forget is that you pay for them and when you have paid that is over. The same as all things in life as well? As it is a case of when you have a birthday the day and years that you have had have gone? Whether they are good or bad. You just need to take the rough with the smooth as you do with everything?

Rant over

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Well then they have won because you have allowed them to browbeat you into submission.

Why not comeback renewed and just let it just wash over you as you are stronger than that.

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l might have a opinion on all things but l am not into whinging and never have been.:)

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1) the comment wasn't aimed at you

2)
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Thank you for showing me your wonderful artwork and for artistic impression l give you 9/10.;)

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No one has beaten me in to submission.

I have come back stronger after time away due to some personal reasons. But I have come back with a worse attitude so I do need to be careful. As i would get done if I say what I really think.

---------- Post added at 18:26 ---------- Previous post was at 18:24 ----------

Thanks that you were careful with the numbers that you put (during this week anyway)

Sorry all:(

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I said browbeat which is very different.;)

We all know what Hugh has been watching :D

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It may be but I go from this?

So the second part could mean submission?
And this as well?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/browbeat

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But realistically speaking that is not you and we both know it.:)

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Damn you have caught me:)

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You have me confused with someone who subscribes to Sky...;)

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Very Happy.

Had Tivo installed yesterday and V+ moved to daughters bedroom. Price has dropped by ~£4.50, and no more 21 year old moaning that she wants to watch [instert name of inane TV series here]. Internet troubles have resulted in £20 credit so the cost was offset too.

So all in all I'm very happy. Mrs Grim however maybe isnt.... after about an hour of setting up series links and wish lists she sounded like some of the negative Tivo bashers on here and other forums and I must admit some of her comments could have some basis (don't tell her I've said that:D). Telling her an update was coming seemed to make her happier than offering her an extra £4.50 a month to spend on shoes:shrug:

Cheers
Grim

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What started by denphone? lol ;)

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On your (or more specifically your wife's point),surely as TiVo is first and foremost a PVR then basic recording should be both simple and straight forward,much as some people on here will hate to here this but with Sky HD if you highlight a program to record you get two simple options 1. Record Once or 2.Record Series, that's it! simples!,unless this super duper "update" that is being heralded for the TiVo changes the way recordings are performed as well as a multitude of other things then I for one will stick with the V+HD box and Sky HD.

ps this is not a VM/TiVo bashing post but is based on my feelings after having and then sending my TiVo back due to my disappointment with it based on previous reviews before I ordered it.

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Very poor, I believe - VM's dismissal of what I deem the best channel out there as 'not must have' really irked.

Couple this with their desire for gadgetry (tivo, spotify and the like) over channel acquisition is extremely annoying.

Why shouldn't customers bash VM if they don't feel they're getting value for their money?

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The poll speaks for itself though ;)

and no I haven't voted, just in case someone says there's a bias :shocked:

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All opinions and votes are welcome and l know you will not be biased.;)

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I'll let customers vote, so there's no word of it then :D

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And other polls say we want this channel, we want that, surely if people are happy with Virgin's TV service as it is they wouldn't care about any other channels?

I voted for what I felt and stated the reasons for it.

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Sometimes you have to accept you are the vocal minority though... VM are saying that requests for Sky Atlantic aren't great.

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Maybe requests for Sky Atlantic aren't that great but l suspect requests for some other channels are quite considerable but yet there seems to be no movement on these from Virgin at the present time.:)

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Virgin Media have said there is 'modest interest' - they're hardly going to say 'we've had loads of requests to get this but we're ignoring them'.

With only 75,000 of nearly 4 million TV customers wanting Tivo, I would call that modest interest but it isn't stopping Virgin going full steam ahead with it.

As Denphone says, customers want more channels (be they Atlantic, Sky Sports in HD or ITV HD channels) and VM are not responding - result, people going to Sky, who, love them or hate them, actually provde channels for the 'minority wishes'.

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installed to date and rising... adding more channels is a seperate issue to wanting/getting TiVo though.

It would be wrong of VM to concentrate on adding niche channels, Sky (Satellite) has a bigger coverage and therefore bigger user base, so it can carry them.

I respect your view and request for Sky Atlantic BTW, i'm just giving you some reasons/economics about getting it.

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l suspect Virgin have got many niche channels already on their TV platform so l don't see that as a plausible excuse and l think the reason we are not getting Sky Atlantic is that we are betwixt and between in that Sky are asking too much and Virgin offering too little.

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Yes, but the other niche channels know they are niche, so don't cost much to carry, Sky (according to VM) are over valuing SA.

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But you can turn that round and get the answer from Sky saying Virgin are trying to get it on the cheap so l take both answers with a degree of scepticism.

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Just sayin'... :erm:

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Seems to me Sky has a history of overcharging and accusing others of wanting content on the cheap. There is no evidence to support the claim that Virgin has ever tried to do this, but penty to support Sky abusing their monopolistic control.

In January 2007, despite a 15% increase in the viewing share of Virgin Media TV's channels over the previous three years in Sky homes, Sky forced Virgin Media to accept an 85 per cent reduction in the price it paid for the channels.

Over the same period the viewing share of Sky's basic channels had fallen by about 20 percent in Virgin Media homes. Despite this, Sky demanded that Virgin Media pay nearly double the existing arrangement for retailing the channels, an annual price per subscriber some 1,700% higher than it paid for the Virgin Media TV channels.

Sky claimed Virgin and BT wanted Sky Sports on the cheap. Ofcom disagreed and decided that Sky was abusing its power by overcharging Virgin and refusing to wholesale its sports channels to other pay-TV platforms.

Sky claimed rivals wanted Sky movies on the cheap. The Competition Commission disagreed and has said that Sky has been making ‘excess profits’ on its Sky Movies channels, that Sky charges other pay TV competitors like Virgin Media too much for these movies and that Sky is withholding rights meaning there is less innovation and choice.

Sky claims that Virgin wants Sky Atlantic on the cheap, while Virgin claims the terms offered are commercially unviable. Given Sky's past history of abuse and the fact that no cable company in the UK or Ireland has been able to secure carriage, I'm inclined to side with Virgin Media on this one.

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well said :clap: :clap: :clap:

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+1

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We don't see it on BT Vision either - they must be cheapskates too.....;)

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Den Sky Atlantic will only end up on VM when Sky are good and ready to drop the exclusive promotions , however I agree with you on the many other channels missing on VM.

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there is no exclusive promotions

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But the talks between Virgin and Sky about Sky Atlantic do not involve BT unless they have been given a seat at the same discussion table.

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You do not see it on Smallworld or Wightcable either another pair of cheapskate cable providers.:D

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On leaflets there are , says available exclusive to Sky Customers on channel 108. Worth asking though @sky_atlantic twitter team.

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That can change quickly. I have asked sky_atlantic twitter team

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I agree , I personally think maybe the new year perhaps February but who knows.

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The talks are going to take a long time? As it takes a long time to get through the "SKY" across the "Atlantic" and with the changes to the air miles coming in, it could be a lot longer:erm:

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And that has what to do with the proposition?

If it were such a reasonably priced deal, don't you think BT Vision, Smallworld, or Wightcable would have picked up the channel (in a one-to-one negotation with Sky)?

Or do you think the fact that Sky were publically trumpeting that Atlantic was exclusive to Sky may have something to do with it (exclusive - not letting others have it).

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I think we will get Sky Movies Classics HD soon because it is coming to Smallworld Cable
http://twitter.com/#!/smallworldcable

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Because we were talking about Virgin,s and Sky,s negotiations over Sky Atlantic which do not involve BT but if you want to bring them into the debate then remember that Virgin has near enough 4 million TV customers while the other TV providers like BT,Smallworld and Wightcable have far less TV customers then Virgin and would have far less leverage in any discussions then Virgin in any discussions with Sky over possible carriage of certain channels.

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would love to have sky sport news hd it looks alot better than sd version

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No, we were debating whether it was that Virgin Media were too "cheap" to pay the appropriate price for Sky Atlantic, or was it more likely that Sky had made the price too steep, and to support the "too steep" proposition, I (and a few others) pointed out that none of the other potential routes to market (BT Vision, Smallworld, Wightcable) had seemed to reach a deal with Sky either.

It is called "providing examples to back up your proposition", rather than just continuously stating, without supporting examples, "VM are cheap" (and I don't regard Sky stating it as supporting evidence....:D).

You do like to narrow the focus down to the only part that supports your position, excluding contradictory evidence, don't you?;)

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Yes l probably do to a certain extent but its also a bit of you calling the kettle black on this as l think most of us try to present it from our own point of view as l have noticed on other threads.;)

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Yes, but I don't ignore contradictory evidence, or just repeatedly state things without trying to back them up with supporting evidence......;)

Nice ad hominem attack, though (again, without supporting evidence...:D ).

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There is a difference between VM bashing and helping some customers with their problems (which this forum is here for). While we do have a hard core of members who will complain about VM whatever they do (yet mysteriously, some never leave the company who apparently fails them so regularly), I think the results to this poll show that the bulk of people think VM are doing either a good or excellent job.

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couldn't agree more well said :clap:

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I'm so happy with VM right now it's a joke. :)

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Yes i will agree with you sentiments 100%, But it does seem that due to a lot of the new threads and also the way some have transcended that it seems to be a bashing thread? I may be out on a limb here but this is just my opinion :erm:

May be wrong or may be right in some peoples minds:(

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Average here ... because I rarely use it at all these days!

I'm only on the free package that comes with the phone line and usually use the freeview tuner that's in my DVD recorder for day-to-day stuff.