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cpomd 02-09-2011 17:42

Speed Testing
 
At this moment I am experiencing a slowdown of the Internet and investigated the speed using Numion My test of choice but I also tested using Speednet VMs first choice. Numion gave me 3Gb or less and Speednet gave me a 10GB followed by a 7GB. My question is how does VM get Speednet to do it?

thenry 02-09-2011 18:06

Re: Speed Testing
 
Better servers.

Peter_ 02-09-2011 19:40

Re: Speed Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cpomd (Post 35295687)
At this moment I am experiencing a slowdown of the Internet and investigated the speed using Numion My test of choice but I also tested using Speednet VMs first choice. Numion gave me 3Gb or less and Speednet gave me a 10GB followed by a 7GB. My question is how does VM get Speednet to do it?

Try this site http://www.measurementlab.net/run-ndt

Sephiroth 02-09-2011 21:41

Re: Speed Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35295745)

I wasn't impressed with that site.

Apart from not being able to copy & paste the result (makes it a load of rubbish actually), it gave me 3.49 meg up and 9.37 down.

Speedtest.net gave me 4.7 up and 50 down

Peter_ 02-09-2011 22:05

Re: Speed Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35295814)
I wasn't impressed with that site.

Apart from not being able to copy & paste the result (makes it a load of rubbish actually), it gave me 3.49 meg up and 9.37 down.

Speedtest.net gave me 4.7 up and 50 down

Gives me the same result as speedtest.net every time.

Nopanic 03-09-2011 00:05

Re: Speed Testing
 
Gave me a 91 down and 9.3 up which is the best speed test I've ever seen ..

qasdfdsaq 03-09-2011 00:43

Re: Speed Testing
 
Pretty much useless for me as well. Speedtest reports 33.8mbps down, that site reports 6.0mbps down. And on my 100/100 it reports 5.4mbps down and 78mbps up (while actually uploading at 93mbps)

Interestingly on my "other" line NDT reports "3.8E+2" mbps upload and "5.4E+2" download. Or in other words it's so useless it can't even display numbers correctly. That said the result itself turns out more accurate than speedtest.net - which reports 245mbps down and 57mbps up. So in fact the upload test seems better than Speedtest.net's, though speedtest.net's has always been utterly useless on fast lines.

thenry 03-09-2011 00:56

Re: Speed Testing
 
Is this test suppose to stall at the preparing test... screen? Its been on it for ages

Sephiroth 03-09-2011 10:51

Re: Speed Testing
 
OK - I've been into this a bity more and have, of course, found the reporting buttons that allow me to copy & paste. Bearing in mind that Speedtest.net reports 50/4.7, this NDT test now reports 22.5/3.5 after tweaking up my RWIN buffer. This compares with my previous NDT result of 9.2/3.5.

The reports produced by NDT are quite deep (that's good), but leaves me with unanswerable questions. Here are some salient points.

Upload speed 3.5 mb/s
Download speed 22 mb/s
Network latency: 1.9e+2 msec round trip time

Jitter: 1.8e+2 msec
Your system: Windows Vista version 6.0
Java version: 1.6.0_26 (x86)

TCP receive window: 4156416 current, 4597504 maximum
9.9522E-5 packets lost during test
Round trip time: 173 msec (minimum), 350 msec (maximum), 188.55 msec (average)
Jitter: 177 msec
0 seconds spend waiting following a timeout
TCP time-out counter: 394
1685 selective acknowledgement packets received

No duplex mismatch condition was detected.
The test did not detect a cable fault.
Network congestion may be limiting the connection.
No network addess translation appliance was detected.

0.9382% of the time was not spent in a receiver limited or sender limited state.
3.74% of the time the connection is limited by the client machine's receive buffer.
Optimal receive buffer: 412876800 bytes
Bottleneck link: 10 Mbps Ethernet
0 duplicate ACKs set


What 10 meg bottleneck is that? My topology, punting the 50 meg service, is:

Modem 1Gig --> Router 200 meg (through 1 Gig port) --> Homeplug 200 meg (161 meg effective) --> Netgear GS108 Switch 1 Gig port to --> 1 Gig ethernet port on PC.

So there's something about this test and how it probes what that needs explaining to me at least.

The "Advanced" tab reports (amongst other things):

The theoretical network limit is 5.92 Mbps
The NDT server has a 1833.0 KByte buffer which limits the throughput to 151.97 Mbps
Your PC/Workstation has a 4489.0 KByte buffer which limits the throughput to 186.03 Mbps
The network based flow control limits the throughput to 83.00 Mbps
Client Data reports link is 'Ethernet',
Client Acks report link is 'Ethernet'
Server Data reports link is 'OC-48',
Server Acks report link is 'null'


So, at this stage, it merits further investigation and perhaps a bit of playing around with TCP Optimizer.

Mick Fisher 03-09-2011 13:51

Re: Speed Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35295882)
Is this test suppose to stall at the preparing test... screen? Its been on it for ages

Ditto :confused:

Gave up with it in the end. :shrug:

Ignitionnet 03-09-2011 14:07

Re: Speed Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35295878)
Interestingly on my "other" line NDT reports "3.8E+2" mbps upload and "5.4E+2" download. Or in other words it's so useless it can't even display numbers correctly.

It's displaying them fine, just in scientific notation :)

1e2 rep points deducted for lacking geekiness.

qasdfdsaq 03-09-2011 14:52

Re: Speed Testing
 
Lol, I know the 'E' notation, it's just pointless it takes more characters than just displaying the full number.

Scientific notation is for numbers that are too long to display comfortably otherwise, except in this case the SN is twice as long as the number itself. Why jump to scientific notation at 3 significant figures when it takes 6 characters to display it?

TJS 05-09-2011 13:16

Re: Speed Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35295814)
I wasn't impressed with that site.

Apart from not being able to copy & paste the result (makes it a load of rubbish actually), it gave me 3.49 meg up and 9.37 down.

Speedtest.net gave me 4.7 up and 50 down

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/09/37.png

seems ok to me

---------- Post added at 12:16 ---------- Previous post was at 12:15 ----------

Your system: Mac OS X version 10.7.1
Java version: 1.6.0_26 (x86_64)

TCP receive window: 524280 current, 524280 maximum
5.1065E-5 packets lost during test
Round trip time: 19 msec (minimum), 103 msec (maximum), 40.16 msec (average)
Jitter: 84 msec
0 seconds spend waiting following a timeout
TCP time-out counter: 240
380 selective acknowledgement packets received

No duplex mismatch condition was detected.
The test did not detect a cable fault.
No network congestion was detected.
No network addess translation appliance was detected.

0.9876% of the time was not spent in a receiver limited or sender limited state.
0.0% of the time the connection is limited by the client machine's receive buffer.
Optimal receive buffer: 536862720 bytes
Bottleneck link: 45 Mbps T3/DS3 subnet
0 duplicate ACKs set

db133 06-09-2011 15:21

Re: Speed Testing
 
Hi

I am struggling to find out how to improve my connection speeds etc as it sometimes takes over 3 min to change a page on ebay.

As a novice I need to find a test program that informs whats what. Then I can post the results on here for some help.

Question: What program or test do I use as a starting point ?

Regards.

Sephiroth 06-09-2011 21:43

Re: Speed Testing
 
Masque suggested to try this site http://www.measurementlab.net/run-ndt

thenry 06-09-2011 21:48

Re: Speed Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35295882)
Is this test suppose to stall at the preparing test... screen? Its been on it for ages

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35295989)
Ditto :confused:

Gave up with it in the end. :shrug:

java mate. I haven't bothered installing it, way too many bugs so it wont run.

Mick Fisher 06-09-2011 23:16

Re: Speed Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35297254)
java mate. I haven't bothered installing it, way too many bugs so it wont run.

But I have sun java installed. :confused:

I seem to be having problems with my connection.

Today browsing was so slow as to be almost impossible. When trying to run a speedtest, all tests I tried stalled at the upload test. I found I could still get a full speeed download from NNTP and FTP but HTTP was borked. A little more poking about revealed I had lost my upload. 12kbps was the best I could manage uploading some jpgs to my webspace.

So I think that is the problem and not Java.

Just now browsing has picked up I'm gonna tried speedtest.net. Hmmm.. still the same..giving me 15meg up but won't connect for the upload test.

Looks like a call to support <sigh>

---------- Post added at 21:25 ---------- Previous post was at 21:12 ----------

Just discovered Avira was skewing all my speedtests. After disabling it I find I am getting 20meg down but still nothing on an upload test on my 30/3 connection.

---------- Post added at 22:16 ---------- Previous post was at 21:25 ----------

I managed to run NDT in the end

http://www.jrfers.webspace.virginmed... speedhalf.png

qasdfdsaq 07-09-2011 23:50

Re: Speed Testing
 
Lol. NDT fails pretty bad.

Mick Fisher 08-09-2011 00:45

Re: Speed Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35297796)
Lol. NDT fails pretty bad.

Certainly does.

Seems their was a network issue causing me problems that got fixed this afternoon so I thought I would try NDT again but it is just stalled on "preparing your tests"

qasdfdsaq 08-09-2011 09:44

Re: Speed Testing
 
Heh. Worse than me then - it just gives me absurdly low results. Still believes my 50mb line is 4.4mb.

thenry 20-09-2011 18:20

Re: Speed Testing
 
two additional test sites;

http://www.ovh.net/

http://www.speedtester.bt.com/

qasdfdsaq 20-09-2011 23:46

Re: Speed Testing
 
Can't say much for the BT one, but OVH can do 50mb quite well but I wouldn't use it for 100 or above.

telfordcable 23-09-2011 14:00

Re: Speed Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35295745)

It rubbish speed site: give me 9.1Meg and 3.4Meg and speedtest net give me 95.4Meg and 9.6Meg

Try this bt lite speed test: http://speedtest.btcentralplus.com/beta/


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