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bolt7 12-08-2011 16:17

Best UK Unlimited Broadband? - Opinions welcome.
 
We've been with Virgin Media for around eight years now, and I think it's time to change. We're currently on a package deal for the Phone, TV and Internet, but my family are wanting to get rid of both the Phone and TV parts of the package. I've offered to pay the broadband costs myself, but am thinking of switching providers.

I've taken a look around the net and am finding the deals very confusing. There's a lot of hidden costs; they advertise low prices on their main page, but when you look into it, there's a tonne of hidden fees. O2 and Talk Talk are two I have been looking at, but O2's costs more than what we're paying now (after the first few months) and Talk Talk has capped broadband. I really don't want limited broadband (since I play games online and there are quite a few online devices in this house.) Fair usage policy is fine though. I've also been looking into Fibre Optic, though apparently (by Talk Talk at least) it isn't available in our area...

So I put it to you Cable users living in the UK! In your honest opinions, what is the best Unlimited broadband service available and what experiences have you had with the service (if any?)

(Also, I apologise if this has been posted in the wrong section.)

Chris 12-08-2011 18:25

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If you have Virgin Media cable broadband, and it's working reliably, why change? The chances of you getting a faster service on any ADSL ISP are vanishing to none.

If it ain't broke ... ;)

bolt7 12-08-2011 19:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35287222)
If you have Virgin Media cable broadband, and it's working reliably, why change? The chances of you getting a faster service on any ADSL ISP are vanishing to none.

If it ain't broke ... ;)

Yeah, this is very true, and something I still have in mind.

The TV and Phone are going, no questions asked. I'm wondering how easy / difficult it'd be to cancel them and somehow sign the Internet over from my mums name to mine (since I'm currently still living at home.) She pays extra not to pay the bill by direct debit whilst I would happily pay through it. Stuff like that needs to change, and I guess just calling them and having a chat is the best thing to do.

True about speed though. Looking at other ISP's and comparing them, Virgin does always seem to come out on top. I was just wondering if there were any other great deals out there I hadn't picked up on yet. :D

MadGamer 12-08-2011 20:47

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Why not try phoning them, to see what deal they can do you as an existing customer? :)

qasdfdsaq 12-08-2011 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35287222)
If you have Virgin Media cable broadband, and it's working reliably, why change? The chances of you getting a faster service on any ADSL ISP are vanishing to none.

If it ain't broke ... ;)

That's assuming he's not a heavy user, at which point anything below 50mb could quite easily be beat by ADSL.

I'd personally recommend Be. Between them and Sky, they're the only truly unlimited services around, whereas O2 have a FUP; also Be as far as I'm aware apply zero traffic shaping, whereas O2 reserve the right to but I'm uncertain if they actually do yet. Once FTTC becomes available on Be, I'll be straight off my VM cable and over to them in no time.

Welshchris 13-08-2011 04:59

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The Best ISP i was ever with was Eclipse Internet years ago.

oliver1948uk 13-08-2011 08:41

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But he has does not want a phone line.

For ADSL he will have to have a BT line installed.

Maggy 13-08-2011 08:59

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IS there such an animal as a UK unlimited broadband?:)

Mick Fisher 13-08-2011 12:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35287289)
That's assuming he's not a heavy user, at which point anything below 50mb could quite easily be beat by ADSL.

I'd personally recommend Be. Between them and Sky, they're the only truly unlimited services around, whereas O2 have a FUP; also Be as far as I'm aware apply zero traffic shaping, whereas O2 reserve the right to but I'm uncertain if they actually do yet. Once FTTC becomes available on Be, I'll be straight off my VM cable and over to them in no time.

Seconded.

Tezcatlipoca 13-08-2011 13:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35287369)
IS there such an animal as a UK unlimited broadband?:)

Sky, Be, O2.

Sky has no usage limit, no FUP, and no traffic management.

Be has no usage limit & no traffic management, not sure about the FUP. The website mentions an FUP, but it seems to be more of an AUP (e.g. "don't do these naughty things...") rather than an FUP (e.g. "It's "unlimited" but we may take action if you go over x GB...").

O2 has no usage limit, but does have an FUP, and I'm not sure about traffic management.

bolt7 13-08-2011 16:59

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I wouldn't say I'm a heavy net user, but I'd like to download without worrying I'd go over a limit every month. Plus, as I mentioned before, our house has three computers and multiple devices that all share the Internet connection. It'd be a nightmare trying to manage all of it on limited broadband.

I'd never heard of Be before and their service / deals sound great. Typically, going by the website it does not look like they're available in my region. Whenever I select a package and enter my postcode / landline number, I get a "Sorry, you live too far away from the exchange to receive this service." Grimsby isn't on their coverage list either. Very disappointing, as I liked the sound of (up to) 24meg download for £22.

Mick Fisher 13-08-2011 17:08

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Hang on in there for a bit as Be are expected to offer an FTTC based product soon that may prove to be more suited to your needs.

bolt7 13-08-2011 17:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35287530)
Hang on in there for a bit as Be are expected to offer an FTTC based product soon that may prove to be more suited to your needs.

May I ask what FTTC means? :dunce:

I've posted on their Facebook enquiring about the coverage here. It's going to be either them or stick with Virgin, I think. I'm looking at Sky and BT now, but see a lot of complaints. Virgin haven't been bad, but Be look to be better speeds at a better price. I'm happy waiting a few months though- we'll just give Virgin a call and cancel the TV / Phone whilst still paying for Broadband. Fingers crossed Be will have coverage in Grimsby soon enough.

Hugh 13-08-2011 17:20

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Fibre To The Cabinet (not to your house).

Tezcatlipoca 13-08-2011 17:24

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FTTC = Fibre to the cabinet



Sky... I'd assume that the vast majority of complaints you've seen regarding Sky broadband have been for Sky's non-LLU service called "Connect"? Sky Broadband "Connect" is a re-sold BTWholesale IPStream product, which is subject to traffic management & usage limits and has been widely criticised as being utter crap (doesn't take much searching to find complaints about it). Sky's LLU services, however, are excellent.

New to cable 14-08-2011 12:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35287369)
IS there such an animal as a UK unlimited broadband?:)

Sky broadband is as close to it as you'll get. Unlimited no traffic management.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35287369)
IS there such as a UK unlimited broadband?

Sky.

Stuart 14-08-2011 12:58

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Be.

NO ONE 16-08-2011 14:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bolt7 (Post 35287178)
We've been with Virgin Media for around eight years now, and I think it's time to change. We're currently on a package deal for the Phone, TV and Internet, but my family are wanting to get rid of both the Phone and TV parts of the package. I've offered to pay the broadband costs myself, but am thinking of switching providers.

I've taken a look around the net and am finding the deals very confusing. There's a lot of hidden costs; they advertise low prices on their main page, but when you look into it, there's a tonne of hidden fees. O2 and Talk Talk are two I have been looking at, but O2's costs more than what we're paying now (after the first few months) and Talk Talk has capped broadband. I really don't want limited broadband (since I play games online and there are quite a few online devices in this house.) Fair usage policy is fine though. I've also been looking into Fibre Optic, though apparently (by Talk Talk at least) it isn't available in our area...

So I put it to you Cable users living in the UK! In your honest opinions, what is the best Unlimited broadband service available and what experiences have you had with the service (if any?)

(Also, I apologise if this has been posted in the wrong section.)

advide Talk Talk Like the plage AOl is a part of Talk Talk . i hard good reports About 02 I on Sky have been on for 3 yars 4 years in March 20 12 i am vare Happy wthem they bring out new moders wher Bt O R roll fibre opice bb. A firend on Bt they 2 are happy wthe tham Bt infey is some parts of uk . Like you i was on V M the BB was vare good i have to say but tv And Phone sevice in earst of Southampton was Alfull i think thats Chaging in the next year . my recomdison is Sky BB :cool:

MadGamer 16-08-2011 15:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35287369)
IS there such an animal as a UK unlimited broadband?:)

I know BT went unlimited on a couple of their packages a few months back. Infinity option 2 being one of them :)

Xtinguish 06-09-2011 18:14

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My daughter is on BE and they are fantastic. No download limits and no traffic management and also no application throttling. I am seriously thinking of changing from Virgin to them myself.

dragon 10-09-2011 15:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35287369)
IS there such an animal as a UK unlimited broadband?:)

I've never known BE to enforce their FUP and have even seen people on their forums reporting doing 1TB + in a month.

I also have a C&W LLU line via a Murphx reseller that's supposedly unlimited, however I've yet to really push a large amount of data though it.

AdamD 11-09-2011 23:25

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If you can afford it, VM Cable

If not, use Sky unlimited or Bethere.

qasdfdsaq 12-09-2011 07:46

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VM cable isn't unlimited.

Ramrod 13-09-2011 06:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtinguish (Post 35297221)
My daughter is on BE and they are fantastic. No download limits and no traffic management and also no application throttling. I am seriously thinking of changing from Virgin to them myself.

Seconded.......:tu:

Nicosia 03-10-2011 09:52

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talk24 are good, the upload is always the same as the download, 20,30,60 and 100mbit connection

NO ONE 03-10-2011 15:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NO ONE (Post 35288874)
advide Talk Talk Like the plage AOl is a part of Talk Talk . i hard good reports About 02 I on Sky have been on for 3 yars 4 years in March 20 12 i am vare Happy wthem they bring out new moders wher Bt O R roll fibre opice bb. A firend on Bt they 2 are happy wthe tham Bt infey is some parts of uk . Like you i was on V M the BB was vare good i have to say but tv And Phone sevice in earst of Southampton was Alfull i think thats Chaging in the next year . my recomdison is Sky BB :cool:

i word Say thores in Order 1 Sky Brodband
2 Bt Infeney Brodband

3 Bt Total Broband

4 Vm Brodband
5 02 Brodband
6 Orange Brodband ;)

Nicosia 03-10-2011 15:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NO ONE (Post 35309332)
i word Say thores in Order 1 Sky Brodband
2 Bt Infeney Brodband

3 Bt Total Broband

4 Vm Brodband
5 02 Brodband
6 Orange Brodband ;)

you seemed to have got the list completely wrong..

i would say..

1)talk24 (they have same uploads as down)
2) VM
3) BT infinity
4) o2
5) orange
6) sky? sky just sucks

I guess it depends on the area you are in and how good the connection is there, for some VM sucks.. for me its the best uk isp along side with talk24 If i was in a talk24 area

weesteev 05-10-2011 19:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicosia (Post 35309340)
you seemed to have got the list completely wrong..

i would say..

1)talk24 (they have same uploads as down)
2) VM
3) BT infinity
4) o2
5) orange
6) sky? sky just sucks

I guess it depends on the area you are in and how good the connection is there, for some VM sucks.. for me its the best uk isp along side with talk24 If i was in a talk24 area

You mean 24Talk? They only offer ADSL2+ service which is 24Mbps and is certainly not symmetrical.

Nicosia 05-10-2011 21:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by weesteev (Post 35310760)
You mean 24Talk? They only offer ADSL2+ service which is 24Mbps and is certainly not symmetrical.

no, talk 24.. its available in limited areas and they offer 8/8 - 30/30 - 60/60 and 100/100 and I know 100% for sure that is the case as my brother has the 100/100 connection in London

XxAmazingStarxX 05-10-2011 21:23

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My first choice would be virginmedias...second would be bt...

Tezcatlipoca 05-10-2011 21:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicosia (Post 35309340)
6) sky? sky just sucks

Sky's "Broadband Connect" service sucks, as it is a re-sold BT Wholesale product and subject to traffic management by Sky. Search various forums and you'll find many tales of woe about Connect.

Sky's LLU "Broadband Unlimited" service, however, is awesome. No usage limit, no FUP, no traffic management... and only £7.50 per month if you have Sky TV and Sky Talk (or £12.50 without Sky Talk / £10 without Sky TV... compare that to O2's £12.50/£17.50 for people with/without O2 mobile). The only reason Sky's LLU broadband would "suck" would be if someone had a crappy line (length or quality), which would also of course affect any other ADSL provider.

Nicosia 05-10-2011 21:36

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for me I would chose dial up over ADSL lol

weesteev 06-10-2011 07:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicosia (Post 35310863)
no, talk 24.. its available in limited areas and they offer 8/8 - 30/30 - 60/60 and 100/100 and I know 100% for sure that is the case as my brother has the 100/100 connection in London

Weblink? They dont seem to exist anywhere?

Nicosia 06-10-2011 09:59

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My brother has them at his apartments for university and actual people who work there at the isp where there telling us about the services and offers they had on paper so I dont have a link... I heard about this isp some time ago before my brother was at uni but I could never find a link either

weesteev 06-10-2011 10:59

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They will be a bespoke ISP probably in MDU's/Student accomodation mainly. They wont be available for residential use and definitel ynot anything outside an MDU.

Ignitionnet 06-10-2011 13:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicosia (Post 35310884)
for me I would chose dial up over ADSL lol

Que? :confused:

---------- Post added at 14:30 ---------- Previous post was at 14:30 ----------

Something useful - do you, OP, mind traffic shaping or not?

XxAmazingStarxX 06-10-2011 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nicosia (Post 35310884)
for me i would chose dial up over adsl lol

adsl is way better faster dislike up can take minutrs ro load a webpage?!!!

spiderplant 06-10-2011 16:49

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I suspect if you live in Nicosia ADSL isn't an option.

XxAmazingStarxX 06-10-2011 17:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35311326)
I suspect if you live in Nicosia ADSL isn't an option.

where do you get this info from?

Tim Deegan 06-10-2011 17:18

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As someone else said, if your service is reliable, then Virgin is your best option. They have the best broadband, and the best phone service. It's just the TV that isn't as good as Sky.

As someone else also said, speak to Virgin and see what they can offer you. I have had extras added to my account on several occasions, and actually ended up paying less.

XxAmazingStarxX 06-10-2011 17:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35311357)
As someone else said, if your service is reliable, then Virgin is your best option. They have the best broadband, and the best phone service. It's just the TV that isn't as good as Sky.

As someone else also said, speak to Virgin and see what they can offer you. I have had extras added to my account on several occasions, and actually ended up paying less.

dont bt too they have fibe optic ...?

adzii_nufc 06-10-2011 19:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35311357)
As someone else said, if your service is reliable, then Virgin is your best option. They have the best broadband, and the best phone service. It's just the TV that isn't as good as Sky.

As someone else also said, speak to Virgin and see what they can offer you. I have had extras added to my account on several occasions, and actually ended up paying less.

+1

Sky TV + Virgin 100mb = <3

Cant comment much on the 'Best' as I'm always going to say Virgin since they were my first provider.. although as NTL or whatever it was back then. Only other Broadband I've experienced is Sky Connect which I have as backup.. so you can guess I actually have no backup really...

Sky connect isn't unlimited is it? Isn't for me. 40gb per month here and max speed of 6mb due to availability in my area.

qasdfdsaq 06-10-2011 23:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35311357)
As someone else said, if your service is reliable, then Virgin is your best option. They have the best broadband, and the best phone service.

Only if headline download speed is your one and only concern in the world.

That's like saying a town has the nicest girls based purely on the size of their boobs. There are other factors that make a decent broadband connection and VM fail on nearly all of them.


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