TIVO with SCART
 

Can TV be connected to a non HD TV? On the small print on VM site one of the TIVO conditions is must have HD TV. Will they come out and connect up to a normal old widescreen CRT Sony TV?


Thanks

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Yes, TiVo does have SCART

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Thanks so they will come and fit it to a SCART TV? As I thought it said HD TV only?

Also how do I get the V+ moved for nothing as different call centre staff tell me I can't have that deal!

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What the terms say is:

HD TV set required and TiVo box connected with HDMI cables required to view HD content

Can't see anywhere where it says you need an HDtv to get TiVo itself

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Should have read it right!

Cheers again.

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SCART is definitely supported.

If the small-print you read was "HD TV set required and TiVo box connected with HDMI cables required to view HD content", it's just badly worded. It fact it's very badly worded because you can view HD content even if you don't have an HDTV and HDMI. (Please let me know if it was something else you saw)

At the moment there is a video formatting problem with some 4:3 TVs, but that won't affect you.

edit: As Ben says :)

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That is what I read so thanks for confirming. I agree it is badly worded!

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The scart output is only COMPOSITE PAL at the moment, it seems nobody has bothered to enable the RGB output.

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It is RGB, but at the moment is not signalled correctly on SCART pin 16, so some TVs may not realise RGB is available.

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So when are they going to sort it ?

It seems that the scart switching signal on pin 8 doesn't work either

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does that mean they wont actually display RGB or that they display RGB just dont report it properly

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There is no RGB that I can see on my TV, and my TV displays RGB with no problems usually even if it doesn't switch to it automatically.

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but i'm wondering whether (due to the missing pin connection) actaully means:

A/ Tivo is actually outputting RGB signal but it's not 'reporting' that correctly, or

B/ Tivo is not outputting RGB signal at all to some TV's

expect someone will know for sure

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It's meant to be in the next update, but I haven't confirmed yet.

Definitely does for me. What make you think it doesn't? (Most kit ignores pin 8 anyway, as WSS takes precedence)

They won't display RGB - as nicko sees

It's A. I guess it's another leftover from the US TiVo - SCART is an alien concept to them.

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Because Tivo doesn't select the RGB input on my TV when I switch Tivo on like my V+ did or any other scart device.

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Oh I see - you've got nothing at all on pin 8. I thought you just meant it wasn't signalling widescreen correctly.

Got a voltmeter handy?

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I might have, why is there something I can do?

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Check the voltage on pin 8 on the back of the box. Put the negative probe on the SCART housing.

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I will try it when I can uncover the voltmeter from where it's hiding.

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Finding out why it dont work wont make it work

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I wasn't suggesting it would.

Though sometimes it does - ever heard the term "cleared whilst locating"?

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Why is rgb important? Can't most tvs work both ways?

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RGB is a much better picture than composite.

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If it was a choice of connections for a HDTV (which in this thread it is not) surely HDMI would be the best picture!

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Of course but that wasn't the question

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Of course, but this thread is about connecting to an SDTV, in which case RGB is the best picture option.

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I did not make myself clear, I know this thread is about SDTV and Scart, all I am saying is if your TV has a HDMI connection it would be criminal to connect your TiVo by scart that's all:erm:

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That goes without saying - so i have to wonder why you said it

Maybe you got the impression someone here didn't know that?

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My Sony TV reports the input as RGB but

1)Doesn't auto switch to scart input and out again when TIVO goes from/to standby
2)Formatting is really odd - get 14:9 if I leave TV in auto, 16:9 if TV in wide, some programmes will switch to 4:3 but most won't.

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So you are actually getting an RGB picture on your TV, mines a Sony too but no RGB.

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I have an HD slingbox, the TIVO scart appears to output composite(non HD) ok, but I dont seem to be able to get an RGB output for HD quality component output. I have an RGB to component converter. I cannot find anything in the menu about outputs or how to switch them on/configure. I would like both HDMI & RGB to be enabled simultaneously. Help

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TiVo should output RGB at all times. You can't turn it off. That said, I haven't checked it recently. Was your TiVo made by Cisco or Samsung?

Incidentally, RGB isn't HD quality, but should be better than composite.

ps. Welcome to the forum!

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Very sorry, you are quite correct, checked switching on RGB to component converter box, now correct and working well. Picture is now much superior to composite, so I can watch around the world !! NB TIVO is by Cisco, (which is another matter. often minutes of the dreaded "busy" circle) .

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"the dreaded "busy" circle" could also be your signal levels are a bit low, TiVo is very sensitive to lowish signals, moreso than the V Box and V+ Box

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You can't get HD Component out of the TiVo. The SCART port only transmits SD Composite and SD RGBs. The last box to have a HD Component output was the Scientific Atlanta V+ box. The only way you are going to get HD Component for your Slingbox is to purchase a HDFury HDMI to Component adapter.

I currently have this setup and currently pass the HD Component through the Slingbox before it goes to my TV. At some point I want to go HDMI through to my TV, for that I'm considering buying a HDMI 1 to 2 splitter connected to the TiVo's HDMI output, one output will go to the HDFury, the other to my TV. I'll have to make sure I buy a HDCP compliant splitter.

In conclusion, you will only get SD out of the SCART port, the only way you'll get HD is out of the HDMI port.

I hope that helps.

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I am no expert, but the picture is a lot better with the Keene RGB to component adaptor than it was with composite. It also bypasses protection software if one wanted to record.

The other issue of the busy circle is interesting, as Virgin had, unbeknown to me, connected our house & the neighbour to the same cable off the street. lots of busy circles, also the broadband kept dropping out. I blamed the superhub, even though modem only mode. Eventually they put a 2nd cable in. Broadband now more reliable, but has dropped out but rarely. Still circles but less often & shorter time. I wonder if they connected us together at the edge of the property rather than at the node, or whatever they call it. What sort of signal strength should I have ? On diagnostics broadband signal AGC 79%, tuners seem to be signal AGC 70% 100% &72% the signal strength column says 0 for all.??

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AGC values aren't really useful without knowing what it is tuned to and what equipment you have.

If you think you still have a fault, give VM a call and they can check signal quality remotely.

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Will do
Thanks

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I completely agree that using the RGB output from the SCART socket will give you a better picture than the composite output. However it's only SD.