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denphone 16-07-2011 07:10

Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
The discovery of pin pricks in vials of saline solution at Stepping Hill Hospital, Stockport, where three people have died has triggered the hunt for a potential killer, police have said and yes its all very scary to see this type of evil sabotage happen again and the sooner they catch the person the better.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...p-2314552.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...sabotaged.html

Maggy 16-07-2011 12:05

Re: Fears of Beverley Allitt copycat as third patient killed by poisoned drip
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-14171712

Quote:

Anyone entering Stepping Hill Hospital may now be searched as police investigate whether it is linked to the deaths of two men and a woman.
Police will also attempt to interview every medical professional and patient over the weekend.
Eleven other patients were found to have been affected in the incident but not seriously harmed.
Police were called in on Tuesday after an experienced nurse reported a higher than normal number of patients with low blood sugar levels.

Osem 20-07-2011 10:59

Re: Fears of Beverley Allitt copycat as third patient killed by poisoned drip
 
Quote:

A nurse has been arrested on suspicion of murder after the deaths of three patients at a hospital in Greater Manchester.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14214375

denphone 20-07-2011 11:04

Re: Fears of Beverley Allitt copycat as third patient killed by poisoned drip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35275856)

l am glad that it looks like they have finally got the person involved in all this.

Damien 22-07-2011 22:58

Re: Fears of Beverley Allitt copycat as third patient killed by poisoned drip
 
Interesting development?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-14256332

Quote:

Rebecca Leighton, 27, from Buxton Road, Heaviley, Stockport, is accused of three counts of causing criminal damage with intent to endanger life.

She also faces three counts of being reckless to whether life was being endangered and one count of theft of medicine from the hospital.
Why not Murder/Manslaughter? Is it accidental?

Kymmy 23-07-2011 00:34

Re: Fears of Beverley Allitt copycat as third patient killed by poisoned drip
 
Now accused of 6 counts of endangering life and one count of medicine theft.

The reason for not being charged with Manslaughter/murder is simply that until it's confirmed that all 5 who died did so due to the tampering of the saline. Then it'll be a case of whether to charge her with manslaughter or murder which will depend on her initial response.

She's not going anywhere so the police and CPS will take their time to formulate the charges to the best effect.

---------- Post added at 23:34 ---------- Previous post was at 22:25 ----------

Title changed due to more deaths and charging of nurse

Gary L 23-07-2011 00:40

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
It will be interesting to know why she did it. and whether she had loads of pics they could have used of her but they chose them ones.

techguyone 23-07-2011 18:42

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
When I looked at her facebook page, there was something like 96 pics, I expect the media deliberately chose the 'best' ones...

SMG 23-07-2011 23:44

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35277079)
It will be interesting to know why she did it. and whether she had loads of pics they could have used of her but they chose them ones.



Yes M8, Why? What the heck have these people done to deserve being murdered? Its bad enough for people with a reason to kill, but this?

Damien 02-09-2011 18:02

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/press_releases/124_11/

Quote:

The Crown Prosecution Service has decided that it is no longer appropriate to continue the case against Rebecca Leighton, charged with criminal damage intending to endanger life following unexplained deaths at Stepping Hill Hospital, Greater Manchester.

The Greater Manchester Police investigation into the deaths at the hospital continues with lines of inquiry to be pursued. If further evidence is presented to the CPS then the prosecution could be re-started, given the seriousness of the case.
Once again. Is it really sensible for people to have their names, pictures and lives printed in every national newspaper before they have been convicted of anything?

denphone 02-09-2011 18:05

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35295694)
http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/press_releases/124_11/



Once again. Is it really sensible for people to have their names, pictures and lives printed in every national newspaper before they have been convicted of anything?

No it is not.

devilincarnate 02-09-2011 18:10

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35295698)
No it is not.

I think that it is as she is going to be vilified for the rest of her life due to this? Even no matter what happens?

techguyone 02-09-2011 18:48

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
I don't think the press should ever report this stuff until/unless the case actually goes to trial, too many lives get ruined for the sake of a few copies of newspapers sold.

Hom3r 02-09-2011 19:16

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
So her career is ruined, and will unlikely ever be in nursing.

Which is a shame.

martyh 02-09-2011 19:25

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
The main problem is that because she has been named and even though the cps has dropped the case untill further evidence is produced people aren't thinking "she has not been found guilty",they are thinking "she has not been found innocent " it may have been better for her had the case gone to court and collapsed through lack of evidence

Maggy 02-09-2011 20:07

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
I've been wondering about this for years.When I was younger and in another century, the speculation tended to arrive during the trial and AFTER sentencing not before.

Taf 02-09-2011 20:17

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Trial by media once more?

Derek 02-09-2011 20:23

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
If there was enough evidence to substantiate charges and to hold her on remand I wonder what has changed?

Maggy 02-09-2011 20:25

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35295773)
If there was enough evidence to substantiate charges and to hold her on remand I wonder what has changed?

Well we could speculate that the attacks have continued whilst she was in custody..:erm:

Damien 02-09-2011 20:55

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35295773)
If there was enough evidence to substantiate charges and to hold her on remand I wonder what has changed?

I wondered that. Could it be they expected more evidence that failed to materialise? Were they under pressure to look like something was being done so charged to early? A combination of both maybe?

This part is interesting:

Quote:

Rebecca Leighton also faced one charge of theft of medication belonging to the hospital. This charge has also been discontinued. Mr Afzal said: "While there is sufficient evidence for a realistic prospect of conviction on this charge, we have decided it is not in the public interest to proceed as Rebecca Leighton would be likely to receive a nominal penalty given the time she has already spent in custody."
This leads me to speculate that the evidence they had was she had unauthorised access to the saline stores and then made a seemingly obvious connection to the murders but didn't actually have evidence that she contaminated them.

TheDaddy 03-09-2011 07:52

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35295736)
The main problem is that because she has been named and even though the cps has dropped the case untill further evidence is produced people aren't thinking "she has not been found guilty",they are thinking "she has not been found innocent " it may have been better for her had the case gone to court and collapsed through lack of evidence

I think the main problem is

Lawyers representing Ms Leighton said on Friday the case against her was "weak" at a bail application made on her behalf in August.

They said Mr Justice Henriques had told the court the evidence against Ms Leighton amounted to her fingerprints being on a saline bag, which had been damaged by a needle.

Although the plea for her to be given bail was rejected at that hearing, her lawyers said the judge accepted "many people" had access to the saline bags and the fluid and that Miss Leighton had every reason to be touching the items in her role as sister.

That's all they had :confused:

denphone 03-09-2011 08:50

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Stepping Hill saline deaths: Police to interview 500 more

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-14772762

Damien 03-09-2011 09:17

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35295906)
I think the main problem is

Lawyers representing Ms Leighton said on Friday the case against her was "weak" at a bail application made on her behalf in August.

They said Mr Justice Henriques had told the court the evidence against Ms Leighton amounted to her fingerprints being on a saline bag, which had been damaged by a needle.

Although the plea for her to be given bail was rejected at that hearing, her lawyers said the judge accepted "many people" had access to the saline bags and the fluid and that Miss Leighton had every reason to be touching the items in her role as sister.

That's all they had :confused:

I think they had that and also that she had stolen some medical supplies. If so it sounds weak. I hope she sues all the newspapers (and I think it is all of them).

techguyone 03-09-2011 11:42

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
There really needs to be a significant change in media reporting, its gotten totally out of control, we're fast reaching the point where it may well prove impossible to even try people, guilty or not, as they will have been completely 'tried by media' before they even step into a courtroom and no judge would be able to get them a fair trial.

Derek 03-09-2011 12:02

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35295912)
I think they had that and also that she had stolen some medical supplies. If so it sounds weak. I hope she sues all the newspapers (and I think it is all of them).

*IF* that's all they had I think the CPS lawyer who authorised the charges needs a serious slap.

techguyone 03-09-2011 12:13

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
If I were her I'd sue their asses off, and I'm not a big believer in 'compensation culture' this would be an exception.

denphone 04-09-2011 07:09

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Now police hunt two suspects for hospital poisonings as case is dropped against nurse


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ped-nurse.html

Maggy 04-09-2011 12:54

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35296231)
Now police hunt two suspects for hospital poisonings as case is dropped against nurse


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ped-nurse.html

That's a lot of insider info the Daily Mail has there..I wonder who revealed such sensitive info?

Quote:

A police source told The Mail on Sunday last night: ‘The entire investigation has been fraught with difficulties but it is believed that there may be at least two individuals responsible. One of them, a man, has already been spoken to by detectives and his fingerprints are on one of the pivotal damaged sets of saline solution.
I suppose we should be at least pleased that no names have been revealed.:rolleyes:


denphone 04-09-2011 15:47

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Saline Deaths: Freed Nurse 'Was A Scapegoat'


http://news.sky.com/home/article/16062314

Stuart 04-09-2011 20:04

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35295944)
There really needs to be a significant change in media reporting, its gotten totally out of control, we're fast reaching the point where it may well prove impossible to even try people, guilty or not, as they will have been completely 'tried by media' before they even step into a courtroom and no judge would be able to get them a fair trial.

That does. Remember that woman who was murdered at Christmas? I was reading in Private Eye that the police did have a suspect. Sky got hold of his name, and drummed up so much publicity with it that had he gone to court, there was no way he would have got a fair trial.

Kymmy 12-09-2011 12:34

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Breaking news
Quote:

Originally Posted by bbcnews
Police investigate reports that milk at Stepping Hill hospital, Stockport was found 'spiked with bleach

No links as yet

Maggy 12-09-2011 13:02

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-14878483

Quote:

Police are probing a second suspected contamination incident at Stockport's Stepping Hill Hospital after milk was found "spiked with bleach" on a ward.
However detectives said there was no evidence of a link to the sabotage of saline drips earlier this year.
there you are Kymmy.:)

denphone 14-09-2011 16:09

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Stepping Hill hospital nurse 'should not be allowed back to work'

Rebecca Leighton, who was released without charge over saline contamination, stole drugs from the hospital, a hearing is told



http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...ork?CMP=twt_fd

Kymmy 05-01-2012 13:04

re: Stepping Hill Hospital Saline Deaths - New Arrest [Update]
 
Another arrest made concerning this case

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-16425566


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