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Is there a way of getting rid of my TiVo and getting the V+ back?

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You have 28 day's i think after install to change your mind, other wise i guess you'll have to pay £49 for the V+ HD Box.

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Are you within your 28days?

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Why do you want the V+ back?

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i was thinking the same thing Digital Fanatic:confused:

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Well said as I have a TiVo and also V+. I have tried the V+ after having the TiVo installed and it is one hell of a step back.

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Me too, seems strage to want to go back to the V+ HD Box i'm not a TiVo user yet, will be by early August though, and from the videos i've seen TiVo looks 100% better than the V+HD box and if nothing elese your saving £2 per month unless your an XL subscriber of course.

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The TiVo may well be a very good piece of kit but its not for everyone at the moment (ie no red button,reminders, and from the evidence on these boards V+ upscales SD better),i guess thats the case with the OP it certainly is with me,which is why i do not have it as yet.

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I think the SD picture looks fine.......no difference noticed and I am very meticulous about picture quality and took me a while to set up my tv originally

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I too was dis-satified with the TIVO for inferior picture quality and lack of programmes reminders/padding etc. and reverted back to my Samsung V+hd box within the 28 day cooling off period.
I spoke to Retentions and said no problem and they sent me the self install replacement box by return.

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I also returned my Tivo, the rubbish picture quality and constant red ring of hell spinning in the middle of my screen, the reboots 3 times a week, the freezing up was too much.

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I've had mine for over two months now. Picture quality excellent (certainly not "rubbish") no freezing, never needed a reboot, red ring at worse there for a second or two. I read some posts on this forum and wonder if there's a problem with quality control with the installations or some faulty hardware out there.
The only reason for returning to a V+ would be if I didn't watch any HD: the V+ is a great SD device, but the TiVo is far superior for high def.

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I watch HD on my V+ and the picture quality is excellent too!!!!!

The main reason i have not upgraded as i explained i think its up for debate the picture quality on TiVo SD of course different people different opinions,however TiVo definately does not have Red Button it may be "coming soon" but its not there yet,no reminders either which is a feature i use a lot on V+,also as a single person who records perhaps three -to four hours of tv a week i do not need a mega hardrive to store lots of HD recordings.

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TiVo is the now/future for VM, you all are just delaying the inevitable that one day in the near future all replacement V+ boxes will be replace by a TiVo.

The thing that annoys me is when someone gets a new product to Market, which TiVo they expect it to work without any bugs or need for updates! In a year everybody who will want a PVR from VM will want to get their hands on a TiVo!

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The day Virgin replace my V+ box with a Tivo, is the day i replace the Tivo with a Sky+ box.

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Well there is no pleasing some people who expect there will be no bugs or updates but there are bugs on some boxes 5 years after they released and yes tivo is the future for Virgin and will in time replace all their other boxes.

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You are 100% correct about new products and bugs , where I disagree with your comment is people delaying the inevitable. It is totally inexcusable to launch a box with no BBC red button a service what's been around for ages , it also launched with no PPV facility , no reminders , lack of ability to start a programme at a defined point and SD PQ problems. When these features are added maybe it will become a no brainer for people.

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Well l think thats being a bit harsh to say its inexcusable for the tivo to launch without these functions because as we know that all or most of these things will be added to the tivo in the near future and also have not Sky launched boxes with certain fuctions not on there when they launched their new boxes.

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Den its not harsh at all , they are basic things. TIVO is a nice piece of kit and some of its advanced features are excellent however for many it will not be the finished object until these basic features are added.

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I would much rather have the service now and have features
added latter.

Red button hardly ever used it
Live PPV never used
Reminders never used them

The only big negative is the SD picture quality and at least they have identified the problem and have a fix in the works.

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Yes valid point , however I'm pointing out to mlazyell why many won't upgrade.

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And these things will be added in the near future thus making the tivo even better then it currently is.:)

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In my view it was very wrong not to tell people red button was missing but not wrong to launch it. Many people don't care that it's missing or can access it via the TV if they want to.

Same goes for PPV, now fixed; they should have told people, but many people don't use it.

But they should not have stopped the launch.


But, launching with no reminders; well, that is just dispicable! :D

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Yes that was my biggest bugbear on the reminders not being there as l used them a lot.:)

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LOL :D

Once all the features listed are added , V+ will then become a distant memory for many.

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I hate my V+ box (relegated to the bedroom), Love the Tivo, wouldn't go back and certainly wouldn't swap it for a Sky box!

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At the moment I am happy with my Samsung V+ box, but the biggest limitation for me is the size of the hard drive to store HD recordings, you have to continuously watch/delete the shows before the drive gets full!

I need to defend myself about the inevitable comment, I am stating VM Cindy Rose to get very TV customer onto TiVo in the near future http://m.paidcontent.co.uk/article/4...-tv-explosion/

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agreed im more than happy with my V+ box

if virgin want me to upgrade to tivo then it will be at there expense not mine

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I agree with this, having had a Tivo for 3 weeks I'm glad I could return it and get my activation fee refunded.

If I ever have a VM Tivo in furture it will be at VM's cost not mine. So bassically I will wait till they're free.Then consider my options.

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Then you have got a long wait.:)

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I guess denphone that one all depends on the timescale VM have for switching everybody over to TiVo,by the time that happens hoepefully all the features i would like ie Red Button and reminders will be on the box,fair enough some members on here saying they never use them well when vm add them they will still have the option not to use them! Just as i would like the option TO use them;)

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Maybe but 1 month ago a 1tb Tivo was £149+£49 activation, today its £99 all in.


But if there is a long wait maybe in that time the picture quality will sorted and all the features will work correctly.

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I`ll wait it offers nothing I can easily live with out ( & in some cases would never use) & Its missing things I use all the time. All I see is extra costs for things I never use. Rather like my car !! - Sat nav, Air con, reverse parking sensors. Great for alot of users but I dont want them. With Tivo I have a choice -at the moment, Who knows when my V+ dies & cannot be replaced I will end up with it, but I do not see me getting one before then.:td:

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Tivo is the future and I look forward to getting mine on Thursday.

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I take it the Tivo was fully tested prior to launch.

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Of course it was but like any sophisticated high end set top box there will always be a bug or two when these boxes are released.

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I am sure they will iron out the bugs.

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Yep so was microsoft windows and look at the updates they are doing for that every week :LOL:

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Because as much as people want to nothing is ever perfect in life and all products generally need updates as they go along.

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"sophisticated high end !"
Of cause the Red button was invented last week & The Tivo is brand new to the market nothing has ever been seen like it before !! :erm:
Its a new piece of kit ( to Virgin) & the I want it brigade will defend it to the end.
It will date and be in a museum at some point ( think VHS, Betamax,
3.5" floppy - never mind 5" ,laser disks the list goes on).

Sorry guys its a PVR. Yes it has a lot of bells & whistles, & I am sure they are great fun.

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l am not defending it to the end and the simple fact is try it before making a opinion on it.:)

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But your point could be said about any piece of technology as a matter of fact. I remember deliberately holding my Nokia 3210 in away so that everyone could see it when walking around. I was so proud of my cutting edge latest phone, now I wouldn't own on unless you paid me.

The fact for Tivo of even a Sky+hd box, they aren't latest technology or advanced in anyway as the both use off the shelf parts. But in the field of set boxes available in the UK the Tivo is the newest. In some ways Tivo "latest tech" may hold it back as the type of duel core cpu it uses it not very powerful. Its uses to many shared resources.

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I've only had a Tivo for a couple of weeks and am on my second one, the first one malfuctioned after 5 days. These things happen and so far the second Tivo has been very good indeed. I find it to be much more responsive than my V+ box which now lives upstairs and I find the standard def picture quality to be ok and no worse than the V+ (I am running it through a Pioneer Kuro and this soon shows any imperfections up) and the HD quality is great. I also find the menus ok to navigate and am pleased with the you tube app. I am also very impressed with the ablity to record from my android phone when I am away from home. Its a personal choice of course but I for one would not want to go back to the v+ box on my main set up.

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Hi guys don`t get me wrong if have the "latest" is your bag great. No doubt at some point I will get one, but I dont use in any form a lot of the extras it offers but I like some that are not yet offered & I have no faith in "coming soon" when applied to Virgin ( their track record speaks for itself ) .
One day I will upgrade my car to the Hybrid model but not yet.(To high a cost)

I see the attraction of Tivo honest - but the extra charges no matter how small do not add up for me. As for faults in manufacture these happen its how the are responded to that matters. I have always from Virgin good on that point