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Gavin-D 05-07-2011 15:15
Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Hi, With TiVo now well in the public domain would Virgin Media ever consider launching channels only for the TiVo box? Would this be possible?

Stephen 05-07-2011 15:19
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Its entirely possible however with VM trying to make the two legacy platforms NTL/Telewest the same across the whole network, I highly doubt they would ever launch channels just for TiVo.

Henkesghost 05-07-2011 15:29
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35268562)
Its entirely possible however with VM trying to make the two legacy platforms NTL/Telewest the same across the whole network, I highly doubt they would ever launch channels just for TiVo.

Do Virgin still launch channels full stop?:)

Stephen 05-07-2011 15:31
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35268568)
Do Virgin still launch channels full stop?:)
That is not part of the OPs question.

muppetman11 05-07-2011 15:39
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35268560)
Hi, With TiVo now well in the public domain would Virgin Media ever consider launching channels only for the TiVo box? Would this be possible?
Can't see them launching channels to a very small part of their user base.

howardmicks 05-07-2011 18:17
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35268568)
Do Virgin still launch channels full stop?:)
Wondering that myself :D

alwaysabear 05-07-2011 18:23
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
TiVo seems to be all VM are interested in at the moment, even though it is a very small part of the business at the moment.

Chad 05-07-2011 20:22
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
I was concerned the SKY on demand content would only be launched on TiVo forcing non TiVo customers to upgrade to get access to the material.

denphone 05-07-2011 20:24
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
l am sure there will be plenty to come in the next 6 months especially around autumn time.

OLD BOY 05-07-2011 20:52
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Don't think channels, think content. The most likely way that TIVO users will have more to watch than other VM subscribers is through video streaming of films and programmes. This could potentially open up an unlimited supply of new and old material, with the only problem being Sky's exclusivity deals with the studios. Let's hope the Government starts to regulate very soon to forbid any company from holding onto material to stifle competition. Perhaps that will help to overcome the growing concerns that Mr Murdoch just gets what he wants from the current Government.

Jameseh 05-07-2011 20:56
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35268812)
...the growing concerns that Mr Murdoch just gets what he wants from the current Government.
The conservatives are here to stay for at least the next 6 year. Virgin will probably be 'Sky via Cable' (or 'Ground') by then because News Corp asked for it, and got it handed to them on a silver platter with no repercussions.

denphone 05-07-2011 20:57
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35268812)
Don't think channels, think content. The most likely way that TIVO users will have more to watch than other VM subscribers is through video streaming of films and programmes. This could potentially open up an unlimited supply of new and old material, with the only problem being Sky's exclusivity deals with the studios. Let's hope the Government starts to regulate very soon to forbid any company from holding onto material to stifle competition. Perhaps that will help to overcome the growing concerns that Mr Murdoch just gets what he wants from the current Government.
Ah murdoch and the conservatives hand in hand as usual.

OLD BOY 05-07-2011 20:58
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35268819)
Ah murdoch and the conservatives hand in hand as usual.
Well, let's see. They might surprise us.

denphone 05-07-2011 20:59
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35268820)
Well, let's see. They might surprise us.
l somehow doubt it.

muppetman11 05-07-2011 21:01
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35268812)
Don't think channels, think content. The most likely way that TIVO users will have more to watch than other VM subscribers is through video streaming of films and programmes. This could potentially open up an unlimited supply of new and old material, with the only problem being Sky's exclusivity deals with the studios. Let's hope the Government starts to regulate very soon to forbid any company from holding onto material to stifle competition. Perhaps that will help to overcome the growing concerns that Mr Murdoch just gets what he wants from the current Government.
I agree fully re Non exclusivity on movies meaning more choice and cheaper prices but what I don't understand is this

Why do people think that VM will get a better deal with services like Lovefilm , Netflix if it were to launch etc than customers with a PS3 , connected TV or other device. Surely Lovefilm stands to gain more customers on sub free devices.

OLD BOY 05-07-2011 21:07
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35268824)
I agree fully re Non exclusivity on movies meaning more choice and cheaper prices but what I don't understand is this

Why do people think that VM will get a better deal with services like Lovefilm , Netflix if it were to launch etc than customers with a PS3 , connected TV or other device. Surely Lovefilm stands to gain more customers on sub free devices.
VM should be doing deals with various content providers, getting the best deals they can, giving viewers a choice between monthly subscriptions and pay per view. The more content we can secure the more we can search for on the TIVO box. There must be deals to be done with the BBC, ITV, and Channel 4 in particular for archived material. It could be so much better than the present offering, I can't understand why it is all taking so long. By the time VM do a deal, there will be other means of getting to this material.

The new internet TVs are a good example of how events are already starting to overtake VM in this important new world.

denphone 05-07-2011 21:12
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35268831)
VM should be doing deals with various content providers, getting the best deals they can, giving viewers a choice between monthly subscriptions and pay per view. The more content we can secure the more we can search for on the TIVO box. There must be deals to be done with the BBC, ITV, and Channel 4 in particular for archived material. It could be so much better than the present offering, I can't understand why it is all taking so long. By the time VM do a deal, there will be other means of getting to this material.

The new internet TVs are a good example of how events are already starting to overtake VM in this important new world.
Do not underestimate Virgin as l believe there is a lot in the pipeline.

Jameseh 05-07-2011 21:13
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
A SeeSaw app would be nice even if most of the content is on VTV Choice.

OLD BOY 05-07-2011 21:25
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35268839)
Do not underestimate Virgin as l believe there is a lot in the pipeline.
Thank you, denphone, that's reassuring. However, they need to move fast, imo.

denphone 05-07-2011 21:27
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35268860)
Thank you, denphone, that's reassuring. However, they need to move fast, imo.
How fast is fast in your mind.:)

muppetman11 05-07-2011 21:29
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35268831)
VM should be doing deals with various content providers, getting the best deals they can, giving viewers a choice between monthly subscriptions and pay per view. The more content we can secure the more we can search for on the TIVO box. There must be deals to be done with the BBC, ITV, and Channel 4 in particular for archived material. It could be so much better than the present offering, I can't understand why it is all taking so long. By the time VM do a deal, there will be other means of getting to this material.

The new internet TVs are a good example of how events are already starting to overtake VM in this important new world.
Internet TV's , Blu Ray players and Games consoles now have catchup tv , PPV movie services , 3D streaming , games , news , radio and many other apps all available sub free (apart from cost of PPV movies ) I've used Acetrax PPV and it was a painless experience.

Chad 05-07-2011 21:29
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35268824)
Surely Lovefilm stands to gain more customers on sub free devices.
Lovefilm are on board with Youview which launches next year. Film4 OD is on board with Youview too. Unless Virgin move soon to agree some deals, Youview will launch with a better offering than Virgin.

OLD BOY 05-07-2011 21:32
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35268865)
How fast is fast in your mind.:)
In my mind, this year. However, I don't think it will happen for at least two years, by which time we will be well lagging behind again.

Stephen 05-07-2011 22:06
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Can we keep on topic please.

HDFootyMan 05-07-2011 22:45
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Sky Atlantic, now available on Virgin Media................TiVo. :p:

devilincarnate 05-07-2011 22:49
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35268969)
Sky Atlantic, now available on Virgin Media................TiVo. :p:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35268936)
Can we keep on topic please.
Sorry now back on to topic:(

Jameseh 05-07-2011 23:06
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35268871)
Lovefilm are on board with Youview which launches next year. Film4 OD is on board with Youview too. Unless Virgin move soon to agree some deals, Youview will launch with a better offering than Virgin.
Film4oD is what is used on Virgin's website so they already have some sort of deal and they already deal with filmflex. I'd say they have a pretty good film on demand library now, all that is missing is Sky Movies on Demand for those that have Sky Movies but then with TiVo you can pretty much just record the whole schedule anyway.

Chad 06-07-2011 01:54
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
I'd be interested to see if Virgin offer any internet exclusive TV packages than can only be accessed via TiVo. For example Polish or Chinese customers could buy a TiVo app that allows them to watch native Polish or Chinese channels by way of internet stream through their TiVo box.

Gavin-D 06-07-2011 13:30
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Looks like the Sportify TV App will be for the TiVo boxes only,

Virgin Media will also be the only digital entertainment provider in the UK to integrate Spotify into its TV offering through its cutting-edge ‘connected’ TV service powered by TiVo, as well as being able to provide a bundled solution for customers with Virgin Mobiles.

Virgin Media customers enjoying Virgin Media TV powered by TiVo®, the UK’s first next-generation ‘connected’ TV service, will be able to enjoy their Spotify service through a jointly developed app for subscribers.

So is this the start of what's to come, any new serivces like Sportify will go onto the TiVo box only.

denphone 06-07-2011 13:35
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35269309)
Looks like the Sportify TV App will be for the TiVo boxes only,

Virgin Media will also be the only digital entertainment provider in the UK to integrate Spotify into its TV offering through its cutting-edge ‘connected’ TV service powered by TiVo, as well as being able to provide a bundled solution for customers with Virgin Mobiles.

Virgin Media customers enjoying Virgin Media TV powered by TiVo®, the UK’s first next-generation ‘connected’ TV service, will be able to enjoy their Spotify service through a jointly developed app for subscribers.

So is this the start of what's to come, any new serivces like Sportify will go onto the TiVo box only.
I doubt whether their other boxes would be up to it.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35269131)
I'd be interested to see if Virgin offer any internet exclusive TV packages than can only be accessed via TiVo. For example Polish or Chinese customers could buy a TiVo app that allows them to watch native Polish or Chinese channels by way of internet stream through their TiVo box.
Well Chad l told you things would come and bingo your first instalment is today with the Spotify deal.:)

Lew 06-07-2011 13:55
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35269131)
I'd be interested to see if Virgin offer any internet exclusive TV packages than can only be accessed via TiVo. For example Polish or Chinese customers could buy a TiVo app that allows them to watch native Polish or Chinese channels by way of internet stream through their TiVo box.
NFL Network, NFL Gamepass, ESPN Player and MLB.tv would be nice. :)

Gavin-D 06-07-2011 15:27
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35269324)
NFL Network, NFL Gamepass, ESPN Player and MLB.tv would be nice. :)
It wouldn't suprise me if they get more exclusive deals before the year is out, Sportify is just the start, ESPN would be a great addition.

denphone 06-07-2011 15:32
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35269383)
It wouldn't suprise me if they get more exclusive deals before the year is out, Sportify is just the start, ESPN would be a great addition.
Yes good things come to those who wait.:)

spiderplant 07-07-2011 10:41
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
And spookily today there's some TiVo-only video content. Check your Apps.

jtaylor06 07-07-2011 19:26
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35269796)
And spookily today there's some TiVo-only video content. Check your Apps.
Forgot to mention, no pun intended ;)
Wingardium Leviosa!!

Lew 07-07-2011 20:22
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35269796)
And spookily today there's some TiVo-only video content. Check your Apps.
You got me all excited for Harry bleedin' Potter? :mad:
:p:

spiderplant 07-07-2011 21:24
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
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Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35270181)
You got me all excited for Harry bleedin' Potter? :mad:
:p:
Oh, you got the Harry Potter one? Bad luck.

Gavin-D 12-07-2011 13:49
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Virgin Media premieres Harry Potter app on its TiVo® service

Quote:
Spellbinding range of content including access to all the earlier movies in the blockbuster series

To celebrate the release of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 on 15th July, Virgin Media has launched a dedicated Harry Potter app for its cutting edge TiVo service. Designed to conjure up even more excitement as we near the end of this magical movie series, the app celebrates the long and epic journey Harry and his friends have taken since they arrived at Hogwarts.

The new app, developed by Virgin Media with content from Warner Bros. Pictures debuts in the Virgin Media TiVo Apps and Games section. It has been carefully created with Harry Potter fans in mind, giving them a spellbinding range of Harry Potter content to remind them of the thrills of this great series.
Full report here - http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...107&highlight=

m419 18-07-2011 22:40
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35268560)
Hi, With TiVo now well in the public domain would Virgin Media ever consider launching channels only for the TiVo box? Would this be possible?
If they can't do it or find it costly, they could make exclusive deals with broadcasters such as ITV and Discovery networks to provide content just for Tivo users.

But rather than just Tivo, i've always wondered why Virgin have never come up with having channels just exclusive to Virgin TV, such as Living, they could have made that exclusive.

The strangest thing is, Virgin Media own 50% of UKTV networks yet UKTV HD channels are not available on Virgin TV and only on Sky, how does that work!

clinteastman 19-07-2011 11:14
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35275231)
If they can't do it or find it costly, they could make exclusive deals with broadcasters such as ITV and Discovery networks to provide content just for Tivo users.

But rather than just Tivo, i've always wondered why Virgin have never come up with having channels just exclusive to Virgin TV, such as Living, they could have made that exclusive.

The strangest thing is, Virgin Media own 50% of UKTV networks yet UKTV HD channels are not available on Virgin TV and only on Sky, how does that work!
Because VM sold them to Sky. ;)

Itshim 19-07-2011 16:30
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
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Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35275357)
Because VM sold them to Sky. ;)
But does Virgin have any control on what UKTV does?
Other than getting a dividend as a shareholder I would have thought that the day to day running was not anything to do with them.

Jameseh 19-07-2011 16:37
Re: Could Virgin Launch new TV channels for TiVo Only?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35275491)
But does Virgin have any control on what UKTV does?
Other than getting a dividend as a shareholder I would have thought that the day to day running was not anything to do with them.
I imagine they have some say in matters but BBC Worldwide essentially runs it.


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