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DaBoz 12-06-2011 16:04

Photo app
 
I'm not near the TiVo at moment so can't investigate myself.

Does the photo app only connect to cloud services? Or can I browse photos on my PC?

I think not, as there's no connection from tivo to my LAN.

If not, then how useful is this service? I don't upload photos because the upload speed is limited to 1 mbit and it takes forever to upload photos to a cloud service.

So how do you TiVo photo app users get round the slow cloud upload issue, or are you all XL BB users?

ahardie 12-06-2011 16:35

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35256497)
I'm not near the TiVo at moment so can't investigate myself.

Does the photo app only connect to cloud services? Or can I browse photos on my PC?

I think not, as there's no connection from tivo to my LAN.

If not, then how useful is this service? I don't upload photos because the upload speed is limited to 1 mbit and it takes forever to upload photos to a cloud service.

So how do you TiVo photo app users get round the slow cloud upload issue, or are you all XL BB users?

I'm assuming that it uploads to google/picasa servers. It does load the photos fast. The app needs improving though so you only seem to be able to upload one folder IIRC.

DaBoz 12-06-2011 16:42

Re: Photo app
 
The tivo photo app 'uploads' to google servers? Are you sure? How do you get the photos into TiVo?

ahardie 12-06-2011 16:46

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35256517)
The tivo photo app 'uploads' to google servers? Are you sure? How do you get the photos into TiVo?

No I'm not sure. I'm just guessing that's what would have to happen because like you say the ethernet connection isn't enabled. If I am right though wouldn't it be downloaded from the tivo's 10 meg connection?

DaBoz 12-06-2011 22:10

Re: Photo app
 
I think we are at cross purposes. TiVo app appears to retrieve photos from cloud services such as google, facebook and flickr. So first you have to get photos from your PC to that cloud service. That requires uploading via your VM broadband connection which is only 1 mbit on my tariff which is very slow for photos from average cameras these days.

So, I have to upload from my PC to a cloud service, then download back to my living room with TiVo.

It would be much easier to connect my TiVo to my PC and cut out the cloud storage middleman.

Make sense?

So, for those that use the photo app, how do they find uploading all their photos via VM broadband?

savvychels 12-06-2011 23:16

Re: Photo app
 
I don't use any of those services to upload to - I use photobucket - I've never had a problem uploading to photobucket through vm broadband.

I've done a few to facebook - but I'm not a big fan of sharing photos on facebook (that may change in future) but the ones I've loaded have only taken seconds.

I now have 5mbit upload - but that's only recent - when I have previously done bulk uploads they've not taken too long depending on file size. Best I can suggest is give it a test run and see how it goes.

I do totally agree it would be better if we could interface pc to TiVo directly/wirelessly

denphone 13-06-2011 05:24

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35256497)
I'm not near the TiVo at moment so can't investigate myself.

Does the photo app only connect to cloud services? Or can I browse photos on my PC?

I think not, as there's no connection from tivo to my LAN.

If not, then how useful is this service? I don't upload photos because the upload speed is limited to 1 mbit and it takes forever to upload photos to a cloud service.

So how do you TiVo photo app users get round the slow cloud upload issue, or are you all XL BB users?

l have uploaded my photo's from Facebook/Picassa to my tivo app and its great to see them on the big screen.

ahardie 13-06-2011 06:56

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35256775)
I think we are at cross purposes. TiVo app appears to retrieve photos from cloud services such as google, facebook and flickr. So first you have to get photos from your PC to that cloud service. That requires uploading via your VM broadband connection which is only 1 mbit on my tariff which is very slow for photos from average cameras these days.

So, I have to upload from my PC to a cloud service, then download back to my living room with TiVo.

It would be much easier to connect my TiVo to my PC and cut out the cloud storage middleman.

Make sense?

So, for those that use the photo app, how do they find uploading all their photos via VM broadband?

I think picassa reduces the size of the picture to cut down on the upload. At my viewing distance I hadn't realised this as the pq looked fine.

gadge 13-06-2011 07:22

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35256805)
l have uploaded my photo's from Facebook/Picassa to my tivo app and its great to see them on the big screen.

How do you do it from picasso i can get our facebook ones but cant seem to get the picasso ones to work.

spiderplant 13-06-2011 07:56

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35256825)
I think picassa reduces the size of the picture to cut down on the upload. At my viewing distance I hadn't realised this as the pq looked fine.

Yes, it does. By default they are reduced to 1600 pixels wide, which is fine for browsing or viewing on TV. Uploading only takes a few seconds per picture even on a 300kbps ADSL connection.

(And does it really matter how long it takes? Start it off then get on with something else)

---------- Post added at 08:56 ---------- Previous post was at 08:53 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35256838)
How do you do it from picasso i can get our facebook ones but cant seem to get the picasso ones to work.

Either select some pictures, right-click and select "Upload to Picasa web album" or click the Share button to upload an entire folder. Of course, you'll need to set up an account first if you don't have one.

DaBoz 13-06-2011 08:57

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35256845)
Yes, it does. By default they are reduced to 1600 pixels wide, which is fine for browsing or viewing on TV. Uploading only takes a few seconds per picture even on a 300kbps ADSL connection.

(And does it really matter how long it takes? Start it off then get on with something else)

---------- Post added at 08:56 ---------- Previous post was at 08:53 ----------


Either select some pictures, right-click and select "Upload to Picasa web album" or click the Share button to upload an entire folder. Of course, you'll need to set up an account first if you don't have one.

I have several Gb of photos. How long will this take?

Edit: at least 6gb at last check.

ahardie 13-06-2011 09:20

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35256872)
I have several Gb of photos. How long will this take?

Edit: at least 6gb at last check.

I don't think anyone can tell you how long it will take on your connection Boz. As the app. stands at the moment you wouldn't upload your whole picture collection to it. What you could do is, for instance when you get off holiday, link that folder through picassa and then view them.

DaBoz 13-06-2011 09:28

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35256876)
I don't think anyone can tell you how long it will take on your connection Boz. As the app. stands at the moment you wouldn't upload your whole picture collection to it. What you could do is, for instance when you get off holiday, link that folder through picassa and then view them.

Ah, ok, I think that these apps just aren't for me then. I've just looked at Picasa Web Albums and Yahoo Flickr and they are geared up for public sharing of photos. Flickr you can tailor to just be you, but Picasa you can't, it shares to everyone, although you can hide tags and prevent downloading.

Also, both have small limits on total storage, and Flickr limits monthly uploads.

I'll stick to browsing photos off my PC with the PS3.

Thanks anyway, it's cleared up whether the Photo App would be useful to me or not, but I guess it's more targeted at people who already share photos publicly.

Cheers

Boz

blackthorn 13-06-2011 10:12

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35256880)
Ah, ok, I think that these apps just aren't for me then. I've just looked at Picasa Web Albums and Yahoo Flickr and they are geared up for public sharing of photos. Flickr you can tailor to just be you, but Picasa you can't, it shares to everyone, although you can hide tags and prevent downloading.

I`ve got my albums on picassa set to private.
http://picasa.google.com/support/bin...&answer=113516

spiderplant 13-06-2011 16:23

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35256872)
I have several Gb of photos. How long will this take?

Edit: at least 6gb at last check.

It would take just under two days for me, a lot less for you. I don't consider that "forever". If you'd started it when you started this thread, it would have finished by now.

denphone 13-06-2011 16:25

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthorn (Post 35256898)
I`ve got my albums on picassa set to private.
http://picasa.google.com/support/bin...&answer=113516

l have put quite a lot of my photos on the tivo Facebook/Picasa/flickr apps and it looks great.

DaBoz 13-06-2011 18:11

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35257067)
It would take just under two days for me, a lot less for you. I don't consider that "forever". If you'd started it when you started this thread, it would have finished by now.

Except none of the supported cloud services have more than a gb storage unless you pay. Also, not sure how practical it is uploading thousands o photos in various folders is.

I have enough dropbox space, shame it's not supported. Just dump files in folders and dropbox does the rest.

JethroUK 14-06-2011 12:08

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35256775)
I think we are at cross purposes. TiVo app appears to retrieve photos from cloud services such as google, facebook and flickr. So first you have to get photos from your PC to that cloud service. That requires uploading via your VM broadband connection which is only 1 mbit on my tariff which is very slow for photos from average cameras these days.

So, I have to upload from my PC to a cloud service, then download back to my living room with TiVo.

It would be much easier to connect my TiVo to my PC and cut out the cloud storage middleman.

Make sense?

So, for those that use the photo app, how do they find uploading all their photos via VM broadband?

I upload photos to Facebook and MSN Live and they upload in few seconds
I have no probs at all and I'm just on 10 meg connection

I think what you maybe overlooking - web/onscreen/TVscreen quality of a picture is only about 10th of printable/photo/camera quality

Not sure but I assume both Facebook and MSN live are quite aware of that and compress the photo on upload

If you arer actually uploading 'photo quality' images then

A/ They will take 10 times as long

B/ You wont be able to see this quality on your TV or monitor

= it's waste of time and bandwidth

Even Outlook and Outlook express compress pictures for emailing


EDIT:

I see you've already discovered this now:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35256825)
I think picassa reduces the size of the picture to cut down on the upload. At my viewing distance I hadn't realised this as the pq looked fine.



---------- Post added at 13:08 ---------- Previous post was at 12:54 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35256872)
I have several Gb of photos. How long will this take?

Edit: at least 6gb at last check.

With MSN live you can drag drop load of pictures and it will upload them very fast (4-5 seconds per pic)

Another method is it to use Windows Live Photo Album on your PC and just select all photos & right-click>upload

this uploads them to MSN Live space again which i use to share my photos across the web and even include in Ebay adverts

DaBoz 14-06-2011 12:19

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JethroUK (Post 35257557)
With MSN live you can drag drop load of pictures and it will upload them very fast (4-5 seconds per pic)

Another method is it to use Windows Live Photo Album on your PC and just select all photos & right-click>upload

this uploads them to MSN Live space again which i use to share my photos across the web and even include in Ebay adverts

That sounds the right sort of thing, as my issue is that I'm starting from scratch, as opposed to an existing regular user of cloud photo storage services and have a catchup.

So, perhaps slightly off topic here, but I think the end justifies the means... Do any of the TiVo supported photo services support any sort of automatic or easy bulk upload process that shrinks images for web and TV viewing?

spiderplant 14-06-2011 13:31

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35257570)
Do any of the TiVo supported photo services support any sort of automatic or easy bulk upload process that shrinks images for web and TV viewing?

Yes, Picasa does. By default it resizes the longest side to 1600 pixels.

DaBoz 14-06-2011 14:27

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35257616)
Yes, Picasa does. By default it resizes the longest side to 1600 pixels.

Excellent. I've also now looked into Picasa Web Albums a bit more and the automatic upload feature is called "Sync to Web":
http://picasa.google.com/support/bin...?answer=106176

This auto syncs files in marked folders with resizing to the web.

I think this might work for me after all!

Thanks guys.

JethroUK 16-06-2011 08:12

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35257647)

This auto syncs files in marked folders with resizing to the web..

I sync photos with windows live photo gallery but I'm not sure if tivo works with windows live

I already have 10 gazillion photos uploaded so I might have to wait until tivo supports it

Hugh 16-06-2011 08:35

Re: Photo app
 
I upload all my pics to MS SkyDrive (which has 25GB space) for backup (as well as a removable Hard Drive).

I am fortunate, as I can do it after hours at work, where I have a 70Mb/s upload speed.

muppetman11 16-06-2011 08:49

Re: Photo app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35258592)
I upload all my pics to MS SkyDrive (which has 25GB space) for backup (as well as a removable Hard Drive).

I am fortunate, as I can do it after hours at work, where I have a 70Mb/s upload speed.

WOW that's what you call an upload.

denphone 16-06-2011 14:12

Re: Photo app
 
l uploaded my 300 photos to facebook online and now l can see then on the tivo app on the tv.


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