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blaupunkt 10-06-2011 18:43

Tivo question(s)
 
Hi all, i currently have a V hd box and have been looking at the Tivo 500gb box, but i cannot find any real info on what actual advantages this has over my current box.

ok, i can record stuff, but if im honest its not something i would seem my self using a lot, i understand it has a better menu system and can recommend things to you as it "learns" your viewing habits etc, but im not sure this is worth paying any extra for.

so can anyone tell me what i am missing by not upgrading, does the Tivo box upscale SD picture quality any better, or HD picture quality, does it offer better sound if you have some sort of home cinema setup?

can anyone help me!?

:)

devilincarnate 10-06-2011 18:49

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Originally Posted by blaupunkt (Post 35255418)
Hi all, i currently have a V hd box and have been looking at the Tivo 500gb box, but i cannot find any real info on what actual advantages this has over my current box.

ok, i can record stuff, but if im honest its not something i would seem my self using a lot, i understand it has a better menu system and can recommend things to you as it "learns" your viewing habits etc, but im not sure this is worth paying any extra for.

so can anyone tell me what i am missing by not upgrading, does the Tivo box upscale SD picture quality any better, or HD picture quality, does it offer better sound if you have some sort of home cinema setup?

can anyone help me!?

:)

You have answered your own question there apart from the up-scaling which is due to come in a future update.

The box is brilliant and will change the way you view TV.

This is just my opinion, Other's welcome:confused:

blaupunkt 10-06-2011 18:51

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change the way i watch TV how ? :) this is what i keep reading but i just dont get it :P

denphone 10-06-2011 18:55

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35255420)
You have answered your own question there apart from the up-scaling which is due to come in a future update.

The box is brilliant and will change the way you view TV.

This is just my opinion, Other's welcome:confused:

Its far superior to any of Virgins other set top boxes.

devilincarnate 10-06-2011 18:55

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With the suggestions you will get when you give show's thumbs up / down it will give you the suggestions that will suit the things that you watch?

The menu's are a lot better as I have had a V-HD, SA V+ and also a Samsung box as well and I will never go back to them after using the TIVO box?

denphone 10-06-2011 19:01

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35255423)
With the suggestions you will get when you give show's thumbs up / down it will give you the suggestions that will suit the things that you watch?

The menu's are a lot better as I have had a V-HD, SA V+ and also a Samsung box as well and I will never go back to them after using the TIVO box?

l will second that.

REM 10-06-2011 19:02

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Does it crash and go slow like the V+ box does? I have lost count of the number of times I have been fast forwarding through adverts at x32 only for it to stick in that mode and run to the end of the program before it give me control back. The it will overshoot the other way.

My V+ often reboots itself and tries to record the same program twice leaving it in the recorded programs list as still recording days after the event and once I delete it, it comes back.

Does Tivo do this or is it better behaved?

denphone 10-06-2011 19:05

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Originally Posted by REM (Post 35255429)
Does it crash and go slow like the V+ box does? I have lost count of the number of times I have been fast forwarding through adverts at x32 only for it to stick in that mode and run to the end of the program before it give me control back. The it will overshoot the other way.

My V+ often reboots itself and tries to record the same program twice leaving it in the recorded programs list as still recording days after the event and once I delete it, it comes back.

Does Tivo do this or is it better behaved?

l have had mine since April the 20th and my tivo has not crashed yet.

REM 10-06-2011 19:08

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35255431)
l have had mine since April the 20th and my tivo has not crashed yet.

That's something :)

Seeing as your avatar is Zippy, did you know Roy Skelton (Zippy's voice) died this week? :(

denphone 10-06-2011 19:14

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Originally Posted by REM (Post 35255435)
That's something :)

Seeing as your avatar is Zippy, did you know Roy Skelton (Zippy's voice) died this week? :(

Yes l did and very sad to hear this news as he was also in Dr Who as well.

Chad 10-06-2011 19:43

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35255444)
Yes l did and very sad to hear this news as he was also in Dr Who as well.

Totally off topic however I won a competition on Radio about 8 years ago doing an impression of Zippy. I never actually received my prize as I was a bit drunk at the time and made a lewd accusation on air about the guy who played Bungle. Genuinely a true story.

devilincarnate 10-06-2011 19:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by REM (Post 35255429)
Does it crash and go slow like the V+ box does? I have lost count of the number of times I have been fast forwarding through adverts at x32 only for it to stick in that mode and run to the end of the program before it give me control back. The it will overshoot the other way.

My V+ often reboots itself and tries to record the same program twice leaving it in the recorded programs list as still recording days after the event and once I delete it, it comes back.

Does Tivo do this or is it better behaved?

My TiVo box has not crashed once and it has not been slow either. When FF and you stop it it jumps back about 30 secs so you will not miss anything ( the same as RW ).

I have not had a re-boot of the TiVo box yet and also when I have deleted something it has not come back on the TiVo?

Hope this helps you?

denphone 11-06-2011 04:31

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35255486)
Totally off topic however I won a competition on Radio about 8 years ago doing an impression of Zippy. I never actually received my prize as I was a bit drunk at the time and made a lewd accusation on air about the guy who played Bungle. Genuinely a true story.

As Geoffrey said you were very naughty that night and must behave better in future events.:D:D:D:D

JethroUK 11-06-2011 06:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blaupunkt (Post 35255418)
Hi all, i currently have a V hd box and have been looking at the Tivo 500gb box, but i cannot find any real info on what actual advantages this has over my current box.

ok, i can record stuff, but if im honest its not something i would seem my self using a lot...


I cant see how people get to 2011 without recording TV, but since you have managed, Tivo (any PVR) would be wasted, since recording is it's primary feature. Most other features/benefits are recording related

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Originally Posted by blaupunkt (Post 35255421)
change the way i watch TV how ? :) this is what i keep reading but i just dont get it :P

What you never had you never miss, so you wont get it

I actually find it quite humbling and I think you should stick to your principles and just watch TV live, whats on and when it's on - in fact you might even start a trend/movement :o)

muppetman11 11-06-2011 08:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blaupunkt (Post 35255418)
Hi all, i currently have a V hd box and have been looking at the Tivo 500gb box, but i cannot find any real info on what actual advantages this has over my current box.

ok, i can record stuff, but if im honest its not something i would seem my self using a lot, i understand it has a better menu system and can recommend things to you as it "learns" your viewing habits etc, but im not sure this is worth paying any extra for.

so can anyone tell me what i am missing by not upgrading, does the Tivo box upscale SD picture quality any better, or HD picture quality, does it offer better sound if you have some sort of home cinema setup?

can anyone help me!?

:)

Best thing to do is read the forum below , it will give you an idea of any issues you may have with TIVO

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/TiVo/bd-p/Tivo

spiderplant 11-06-2011 09:35

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35255707)
Best thing to do is read the forum below , it will give you an idea of any issues you may have with TIVO

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/TiVo/bd-p/Tivo

That may give a skewed view (as might this forum too). Bear in mind that people who don't have problems won't generally post.

muppetman11 11-06-2011 09:39

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35255722)
That may give a skewed view (as might this forum too). Bear in mind that people who don't have problems won't generally post.

Agreed but it gives an idea of the software problems out there , and features not yet available. It's no more skewed a view , than checking the VM website which makes no reference to its lack of red button , or if it does its hidden in the small print.

kop32 11-06-2011 10:01

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35255422)
Its far superior to any of Virgins other set top boxes.

that dosnt fill me with a great deal of confidence :rolleyes:

denphone 11-06-2011 10:04

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Originally Posted by kop32 (Post 35255733)
that dosnt fill me with a great deal of confidence :rolleyes:

Well what would you like us to say but it seems you are quite negative before you start.:(

kop32 11-06-2011 10:13

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35255734)
Well what would you like us to say but it seems you are quite negative before you start.:(

Negativity comes from experience i'm affraid,I have been a VM and Sky HD customer for many years and unfortunatly VM always appear to have the inferior hardware/software,what I would say is no other supplier can match VM for Broadband they are,in my opinion,excellent, so to sum up it's negativity bourne from past and current experience (i've just returned my 1tb TiVo box).

denphone 11-06-2011 10:18

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Originally Posted by kop32 (Post 35255737)
Negativity comes from experience i'm affraid,I have been a VM and Sky HD customer for many years and unfortunatly VM always appear to have the inferior hardware/software,what I would say is no other supplier can match VM for Broadband they are,in my opinion,excellent, so to sum up it's negativity bourne from past and current experience (i've just returned my 1tb TiVo box).

l think you should have given your tivo box more time as there are many excellent things coming to it and l suspect a update would have sorted any problems out.

passingbat 11-06-2011 10:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35255707)
Best thing to do is read the forum below , it will give you an idea of any issues you may have with TIVO

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/TiVo/bd-p/Tivo


You mean the new unofficial meeting place of the Whingers Society?

denphone 11-06-2011 10:52

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35255752)
You mean the new unofficial meeting place of the Whingers Society?

Well l have never gone there so at least l am not a whinger.;)

muppetman11 11-06-2011 10:53

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35255752)
You mean the new unofficial meeting place of the Whingers Society?

I pointed the OP in the direction of the official VM TIVO support forum and still I'm.condemned for it :rolleyes:

Care to enlighten me on why people are whingers for reporting problems.

denphone 11-06-2011 10:57

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35255755)
I pointed the OP in the direction of the official VM TIVO support forum and still I'm.condemned for it :rolleyes:

Care to enlighten me on why people are whingers for reporting problems.

You have done nothing wrong great man just keep doing what you are good at.

blaupunkt 11-06-2011 14:24

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Originally Posted by JethroUK (Post 35255670)
I cant see how people get to 2011 without recording TV, but since you have managed, Tivo (any PVR) would be wasted, since recording is it's primary feature. Most other features/benefits are recording related



What you never had you never miss, so you wont get it

I actually find it quite humbling and I think you should stick to your principles and just watch TV live, whats on and when it's on - in fact you might even start a trend/movement :o)

i used to do a lot of recording years ago, when VHS video taping was all the rage and there was no such thing as digital TV!

apart from possibly the sport channels i cannot think of TV shows/flims that are not repeated, some times seemingly endlessly either the same night or later in the week, and if i do miss the repeat then i simply use the catch up TV on demand.

:)

REM 11-06-2011 14:37

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35255740)
l think you should have given your tivo box more time as there are many excellent things coming to it and l suspect a update would have sorted any problems out.

Agreed on that. I remember when I was on Sky and had one of the first Sky+ Boxes. It was a fun time. Waiting each month to look in the sky guide at what new features will or might be added.

I am hoping Tivo will be the same. I am not expecting miracles from the start.

devilincarnate 11-06-2011 14:46

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Originally Posted by blaupunkt (Post 35255906)
i used to do a lot of recording years ago, when VHS video taping was all the rage and there was no such thing as digital TV!

apart from possibly the sport channels i cannot think of TV shows/flims that are not repeated, some times seemingly endlessly either the same night or later in the week, and if i do miss the repeat then i simply use the catch up TV on demand.

:)

Well in regards to catch up on demand you get the I-PLAYER app that has more content on than the app than you do in the normal catch up menu?

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Originally Posted by REM (Post 35255915)
Agreed on that. I remember when I was on Sky and had one of the first Sky+ Boxes. It was a fun time. Waiting each month to look in the sky guide at what new features will or might be added.

I am hoping Tivo will be the same. I am not expecting miracles from the start.

A lot more will come as Cindy Rose said that they are hoping to have Hundreds of app's :D

muppetman11 11-06-2011 15:17

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35255921)
Well in regards to catch up on demand you get the I-PLAYER app that has more content on than the app than you do in the normal catch up menu?

---------- Post added at 15:46 ---------- Previous post was at 15:44 ----------



A lot more will come as Cindy Rose said that they are hoping to have Hundreds of app's :D

Yes I think it was 100 within a year she said :)

passingbat 11-06-2011 15:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35255755)
I pointed the OP in the direction of the official VM TIVO support forum and still I'm.condemned for it :rolleyes:

Care to enlighten me on why people are whingers for reporting problems.

I wasn't condeming you, I was passing on my views on a lot of the posts and the overall impression I get from reading that forum.

There is nothing wrong with reporting 'problems' but it seems to me that a lot of people on there blow minor things, that niggle them (many of them on the fix list), way out of proportion. Doing so, they are putting people off an excellent product, which leaves the V+ standing.

There seem to be so many people bleating on (Yeah, I did say bleeting on) about being beta testers. The tivo I have does everything I want and way more than V+ did. And it does it as it should. There could be improvments, some of which are coming ('ve posted the ones I'd like both here and on the VM forum), but the negativity on the VM forum from a lot of posters, I find unjustified and irritating.

I do agree that VM should make people aware before ordering that Red Button and Live events are currently not on the Tivo and will be added later. But that's the only major issue in my view and the lack of them shouldn't have stopped Tivo being released when it was; if people want those things, they can hold on to the V+ a little longer and those of us who don't care about them can get advanced functionality now.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35255756)
You have done nothing wrong great man just keep doing what you are good at.

Any chance of a clue on that one?


(Just kidding):D

devilincarnate 11-06-2011 16:04

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35255953)
There is nothing wrong with reporting 'problems' but it seems to me that a lot of people on there blow minor things, that niggle them (many of them on the fix list), way out of proportion. Doing so, they are putting people off an excellent product, which leaves the V+ standing.

Yes this is very true as I have only posted a few time's on the VM forum and they were for the V+ box:confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35255953)
There seem to be so many people bleating on (Yeah, I did say bleeting on) about being beta testers. The tivo I have does everything I want and way more than V+ did. And it does it as it should. There could be improvments, some of which are coming ('ve posted the ones I'd like both here and on the VM forum), but the negativity on the VM forum from a lot of posters, I find irritating.

There is a lot of negativity on the VM forum as it is a fault and support forum, So people are going to post their feelings if it does not go their way:confused:

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35255953)
I do agree that VM should make people aware before ordering that Red Button and Live events are currently not on the Tivo and will be added later. But that's the only major issue in my view and the lack of them shouldn't have stopped Tivo being released when it was; if people want those things, they can hold on to the V+ a little longer and those of us who don't care about them can get advanced functionality now.

This is 100% correct and I agree that they should tell all the new/upgrading customers that these are not available at the moment:D


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