New TV I'm looking at has built-in Cable tuner?
 

New TV I'm looking at has built-in Cable tuner

Does that mean I can plug separate cable spur into it and get free to air cable channels?

It also has free view tuner so maybe stick to that?


P.S. also has internet input - could I use that?

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He's ignoring me so can someone tell him no :)

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Carl says no;)

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Then why have TV`s with built in cable tuners, never seen one myself what brand and model.

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Generic models, in some countries in the world you could add a card via the cam slot to access the local cable network.

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LOL :D Hope Carls paying you for passing his words on :D

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Can anyone tell me how i can do this? ;) Only joking Carl i like the way you get peoples backs up, it's the only reason i come on here. p.s. is my grammar correct?

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My samsung tv has a built in cable tuner but as previously said you cant use it in this country to access virgin services

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Actually i now have him on ignore as well, Classed the same as Telford Cable ;)

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Various European countries use DVB-C as their main TV service whereas we use DVB-T/T2 (Freeview/HD) so Samsung only have to change the plug supplied and not another version of the TV.

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Its Philips but I think lots brands have cable tuner in

It also has freeview too

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Not particularly a cable tuner as such, these sets usually tune through broadcast Bands I & III (VHF) as well as Bands IV & V (UHF). These bands are stiil used for broadcast TV in many parts of the world.

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Indeed. Like in the US for example, where there are many cable providers.

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No, these TVs specifically have a DVB-C tuner. My Sony TV has a DVB-T2 tuner and a DVB-C tuner built in.

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Yeap - this also has DVB-C tuner - 'C' actually stands for 'Cable' as far as I know - so its definitely a 'cable tuner'

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Correct.

DVB-T = digital terrestrial
DVB-S = digital satellite
DVB-C = digital cable

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I don't understand this thread

why as we are in Europe don't we all have TVs / Cable slots or whatever that can be used throughtout Europe

increasingly companies are moving staff round Europe and increasingly British workers and seeking Jobs in Europe and vice-sersa

how can they take their best loved possession - their flat screen TV - with them to a new job/county if the cable slots / TVs are not pan-euopean ?

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Probably because components cost money.. a lot of manufacturers will have modules that they add to the units depending on where they are sold.. As cable in the UK is restricted to few companies and their own products there's not much point in putting in a DVB-C module. Other manufacturers though have them in as standard..

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Also its not always as easy as just changing location settings in your t.v. to activate features / tuners etc some would require a firmware upgrade / flash to reliably change them from one country to another. As i stated earlier in the post a lot of companys make the set with all available hardware then just enable or disable the bits that need to work and how they work on a country by country basis.

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yes

but as I said we are all in one large trading block called Europe

there is already a Europwide Electrical Power plug system

in the States all the TVs and Cable companies are compatatble

why is that not the case here in Europe

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Probably due to the fact that the states is one country with one FCC controling all the rules which are the same for communications throughout the whole country. Where as in Europe each individual country controls it's own communications rules which means differing frequency blocks as well as rules.. DVB-S I suppose is the closest amalgamation of the rules in the EU

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Has anyone actually tried tuning their DVB-C equiped telly into their VM feed?
I suspect that the unencripted channels might work!
It might save people having to shell out for an additional V-Box for, say the kitchen, kids room etc etc.
Many current Samsung TV's list DVB-C tuner in their spec.

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Europewide power plug system? You mean the two pin thing? cos I don't see that over here!

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The only channels you are likely to get is BBC1/2, ITV, CH4 & CH5. These are the only ones that pass when an account is put on stop, so are likely unencrypted.

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Don't do it. It can put noise onto the network, which can affect the broadband and TV service of houses nearby.

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I'm sure that they are unencrypted.
My EuroVox still see's them (and others) fine.
My account is fine and I have two official VM boxes already.
But whats the point of paying for a third if there is already a functioning DVB-C tuner fitted?
Apart from, of course, to see the extra channels I'm paying for.

Noise into network?
Have you tried it, or is this hearsay?

There are several stages of buffering and isolation between properties.
Th RF input stage of a quality TV would be correctly terminated ito 75 Ohms and entirely passive.
Not interactive, like a V+ box.
I'd be supprised if it affected it at all.

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All boxes on nagra3 need the box and card on the account, the internal box to the TV won't be on the account so can't work with the card. You won't get anything but what's already been suggested (remember that VM does not have FTA/FTV channels)

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He works for VM and is knowledgable on such subjects so if he says that's the case I'd be inclined to believe what he says.

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Isn't the isolator on the outside of the house that the feed passes through supposed to stop noise lapsing back out onto the network?

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Without the VM Box the EPG won't work. This is linked to VM's channel numbering so the channels will be in a random order, and will continually change a VM shunt frequencies around, which they do regularly without customers ever noticeing. No red button services, text services or VOD as no return path.

You would be paying a small amount for all of this at another location, but would not want it to work.

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Fair enough.
But nobody has tried it.

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Search through the forums and you'll find a few threads from people plugging in old vm or 3rd party boxes/TV's and wondering why they don't get any channels even though they have a subscription.

So yes it has been tried

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He is the Virgin Media Set Top Box Expert on here and if he says it can happen then it can, no ifs or buts.:)

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The primary purpose of the isolator is to protect the connected equipment from power surges coming down the drop line, as explained in this old thread.

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my Sony is the same & my Phillips & Wharfedale TVs before them were aswel like

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yeah works on mine as you said but i can only get the terrestrials. back in the analogue days i could also get BBC News, CNBC, Bloomberg, E4 & Trouble