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Connection dropping, but modem lights remain healthy.
For the past few days, my internet connection has been randomly dropping. It can occur once every ten minutes for a short while, and then it can be okay for hours. Sometimes it will drop once, then be okay for several hours, then drop again, then be okay for another several hours. There doesn't seem to be a pattern (at least not that i can tell).
However, during these drops, my modem lights remain normal. There is no flickering of lights, no reset, etc. It's as if the modem is still holding a connection. When the connection drops, it comes back on it's own after a minute or two. Or, if I reset my modem/router at the plug it comes back. Also, my power levels appear to be absolutely fine - Downstream Receive Power Level: 7.5 dBmV Upstream transmit Power Level: 48.5 dBmV I was hoping to get a little insight into whether it is likely to be my modem/connection or my router causing the issue. The fact that the modem's lights remain healthy leads me to believe that it might be my Linksys router. I have been using this particular connection and modem/router set-up for years and this has never happened before. Many thanks. |
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really funny you should say that dude because I have the same problem (used to but dont now). You arent actually being "disconnected" which is why your lights stay on. I have only ever noticed it on sustained high speed data transfers, namely newsgroups and torrents. Everything will run at full speed, then hit 0k for a min or two and then blast off again. I always attributed it to some sort of safety thing VM put on the network. If it was a browser download it would have timed out and thus saved VM the bandwidth, but with it being a torrent or nntp, it will auto resume.
The long and short of it is that it is a teeny tiny inconvenience so I wouldn't worry about it. |
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You mentioned having the same problem but not any more. Did the issue clear up on it's own? How long was it before your problem went away? I enjoy watching online video streams. Live television for example, so the cut-outs are a little more than a tiny inconvenience for me. They are proving themselves quite disruptive to my online habits. It's not really something I can ignore. |
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I've always put it down to the quality of VMs broadband offering, and simply put up with it. |
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Tbh I havent noticed it for ages. I havent downloaded anything from newsgroups for quite a while now but I still get a tonne of stuff from torrents. I can't put my finger on a particular date or time but it defo hasnt happened since they increased upload speed to 10:1 or since they implemented p2p traffic shaping (and no, this is not a good reason for doing it before anyone says anything :nono: )
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Anything in the modem event logs? And setting up a TBB monitor could show something if anything...
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I did a Windows troubleshoot when the problem occured again, and it said the following:
"Windows can't communicate with the device or resource (primary DNS server)" Any one know what that means? Is it referring to my router? As for modem logs, this is the only one: "Critical (3) Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - ..." |
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Connection went down for about 5-10 minutes this evening. I checked the logs and it was a wall of this:
Time Not Established Time Not Established Critical (3) DHCP FAILED - Discover sent, no offer received Time Not Established Time Not Established Critical (3) DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response. Time Not Established Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out Time Not Established Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out Time Not Established Time Not Established Critical (3) DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response. Time Not Established Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out Time Not Established Time Not Established Critical (3) DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response. Time Not Established Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out Time Not Established Time Not Established Critical (3) DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response. Time Not Established Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out Time Not Established Time Not Established Critical (3) No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out |
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I was hoping it might have fixed itself by now, but I'm still getting drop outs.
Whenever the connection drops, this shows up in the modem logs: "Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out" Again, my signal levels are absolutely fine and well within the goldilocks zone. ---------- Post added at 14:03 ---------- Previous post was at 14:01 ---------- I should add, I'm using a 255 VM modem, but I have an older 250 NTL modem handy. Would you advise perhaps trying the older modem? Or would the 250 not be able to handle a 10meg connection? |
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The 250 will handle 10Mb with no problem. I doubt if it is still enabled on the network though so you will not even be able to connect. You need to ring support.
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The T3s will be nothing to do with the router. This is a case where we ought to see the full modem stats (power levels are only part of the story) and event log (your MAC address removed if it appears) as well as the results of a traceroute to www.bbc.co.uk. We might be able to piece togethewr what's going on especially when we see what CMTS you are on.
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Something is definitely up. For the past couple of weeks my connection's performance is the worst it's ever been. It's like the good ol' dialup days but slower. Single images are downloading in chunks and everything is buffering.
Let's hope it's sorted out soon. |
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Well, things are definitely getting better: my connection is now 4 times the speed it was last time I posted.
It's up to just over 2Mbps. I can pee a faster stream :mad:. |
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cant it do it on docsis 2 if it wanted to? i am sure i read somewhere that it maxes out at just over 30
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IIRC it's not a DOCSIS2 modem either:D
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I'm still experiencing the same type of connection drops on a daily basis. Still very intermittent. Everything on my end seems to check out fine, so I'm thinking maybe it's a problem in my general area? Maybe the VM street box? Masque, is there any way that you could possibly check for known issues in my area? I believe my area code is gors1. If not, how would I find out? Many thanks. |
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Thanks. I checked and there are no known issues in my area.
I don't want to have to call support if I don't have to, so I'm seeking to try self-help methods first, just in case it's something I can fix on my own. I have an old Forward Path Attenuator (10dB) which I have since attached to my modem. Worth a shot right? Since fitting the attenuator my downstream power level has lowered and now averages about -2.2 Out of curiosity, what at the latest optimum power levels for both downstream and upstream (for a 255 modem)? And what are the highest possible ceiling limits for both downstream and upstream before connection drop-outs (like my own) would occur? |
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They've been here for a loooooooong time if you cared to look!
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...al-levels.html And no they haven't changed! |
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b)Had you said "I've checked the power level sticky are they still the same?" The answer you would've got would be along the lines of "Yes otherwise the sticky would've been changed!" Sticky's are there for a reason, pointing it out is not rude! |
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Sadly no luck with the attenuator. The connection was okay for a while and then decided to play it's old tricks. Experiment failed.
I meant to do this yesterday (Sorry, Sephiroth!), but here are my modem stats, in full: Cable Modem Information Cable Modem : DOCSIS 1.0/1.1/2.0 Compliant MAC Address : *** Serial Number : *** Boot Code Version : 3.1.6d Software Version : 2.94.1015 Hardware Version : 1.19 Cable Modem Status Item Status Comments Acquire a Downstream Channel 402750000 Hz Locked Connectivity State OK Operational Boot State OK Operational Cable Modem Downstream Downstream Lock : Locked Downstream Channel Id : 7 Downstream Frequency : 402750000 Hz Downstream Modulation : QAM256 Downstream Symbol Rate : 5360.537 Ksym/sec Downstream Interleave Depth : taps32Increment4 Downstream Receive Power Level : 7.7 dBmV Downstream SNR : 41.8 dB Cable Modem Upstream Upstream Lock : Locked Upstream Channel ID : 2 Upstream Frequency : 25800000 Hz Upstream Modulation : QPSK Upstream Symbol Rate : 2560 Ksym/sec Upstream transmit Power Level : 44.5 dBmV Upstream Mini-Slot Size : 2 Cable Modem Upstream Burst Req Init Maint Per Maint Short Data Long Data (1)(3)(4)(5)(6) Modulation Type QPSK QPSK QPSK QPSK QPSK Differential Encoding Off Off Off Off Off Preamble Length 64 128 128 100 80 Preamble Value Offset 396 6 6 396 396 FEC Error Correction (T) 0 5 5 3 9 FEC Codeword Information Bytes (k) 16 34 34 78 232 Scrambler Seed 338 338 338 338 338 Maximum Burst Size 0 0 0 35 254 Guard Time Size 8 48 48 25 134 Last Codeword Length Fixed Fixed Fixed Short Short Scrambler on/off On On On On On Cable Modem Operation Configuration Network Access : Allowed Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 10240000 Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 1072000 Maximum Upstream Channel Burst : 8160 Maximum Number of CPEs : 1 Modem Capability : Concatenation Enabled, Fragametation Enabled, PHS Enabled Event logs (wouldn't allow me to clipboard copy, so they are a bit messy): Spoiler:
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Make of those results what you will, because I'm clueless. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. |
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is your connection actually working atm? ICMP is an IP protocol which means you must have leased an ip address from the cmts
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No idea what the rest of what you said means. |
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How long (realistically) do you think I should give it to work itself out, before considering the dreaded phone call? |
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i hate to say this dude but it really does vary. Last time it happened to me it took 5 days to sort out but that being said, it didnt bother me at all because my connection still performed 100%. The chances are that they know about it already but if i were you i would give them a call just to make sure because disconnects are a pain in the bum
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Just to give you guys a small sample of what the drop-outs look like:
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img] As you can see, the drop-outs occur in clusters. Coming in, out, in, out, in, out, before stabilizing for what can be several hour periods. I'll be running the ping montor over the coming days, so I'll have more concrete results to show you then. Hopefully it will give us a better idea of a pattern (if there is one). |
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A further example (in case it helps):
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img] As you can see, it started dropping out around 5pm yesterday and continued to do so for roughly 4 hours. Then magically it stopped and levelled out into what was a very stable connection. The internet was in use until around 3am (iPlayer mostly), hence the yellow spikes up until that point. Then this morning at roughly 9am, the drop-outs began again (for about an hour). The internet was not in use at that time. Since then the connection has stabilized. I assume 5pm-10pm is a peak time for internet activity, as is 8am-9am? Might this point towards an overload in the area/region causing my woes? |
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Interestingly, I checked the status page this evening and it says...
"You will currently be experiencing intermittent connection issues on your broadband internet service. Our engineers are aware of this issue and are currently working to fix it fast. We apologise for any inconvenience this may be causing." So fingers crossed that the issue they are trying to fix is the same issue that has been causing my woes. |
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So the maintenance ended (returned to "Good Service" on the status page), but I'm still getting drop-outs. I've been monitoring my connection for a few days now and there is definitely a pattern. You can see it here:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...01-06-2011.png http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...02-06-2011.png http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...03-06-2011.png Rinse and repeat. It's always the waking morning hours and peak time evening hours. Between those peak times, the connection is as smooth and as dependable as I would expect. I assume that this points directly towards it being an issue with high load on in the region/area. In which case, surely their maintenance should have fixed it? |
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