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Stuart 09-05-2011 14:14

Talk Talk to block malware.
 
Following up from installing a monitoring system that some on here labelled "Stalk Stalk" as it worked by accessing websites a short while after users and sniffing them for Malware, Talk Talk has announced they are going to actively start blocking those Malware infected sites they found..

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05...talk_homesafe/

The system is apparently an opt-in system and is part of a package designed, seemingly, to make Talk Talk more family friendly, as the package also includes controls to block pornographic, violent or other kinds of sites parents don't want their kids to access, and also a "Homework" setting that blocks various sites (including facebook) when kids are supposed to be doing homework.

What do you guys think about the system? There are several members who I think I can predict their response, but we'll see.

Personally, I think if it is implemented correctly, it could be a good thing for Talk Talk's customers (and probably a lot more people besides) as it could stop them getting (and therefore spreading) viruses and other Malware. At least for a while until the Malware authors find a way around it.

As for the Parental Controls, I like that idea as well. While I don't know if I would use them if I had kids, it's nice to have the option.

Sirius 09-05-2011 15:37

Re: Talk Talk to block malware.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35232494)
Following up from installing a monitoring system that some on here labelled "Stalk Stalk" as it worked by accessing websites a short while after users and sniffing them for Malware, Talk Talk has announced they are going to actively start blocking those Malware infected sites they found..

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05...talk_homesafe/

The system is apparently an opt-in system and is part of a package designed, seemingly, to make Talk Talk more family friendly, as the package also includes controls to block pornographic, violent or other kinds of sites parents don't want their kids to access, and also a "Homework" setting that blocks various sites (including facebook) when kids are supposed to be doing homework.

What do you guys think about the system? There are several members who I think I can predict their response, but we'll see.

Personally, I think if it is implemented correctly, it could be a good thing for Talk Talk's customers (and probably a lot more people besides) as it could stop them getting (and therefore spreading) viruses and other Malware. At least for a while until the Malware authors find a way around it.

As for the Parental Controls, I like that idea as well. While I don't know if I would use them if I had kids, it's nice to have the option.

Simple because its Opt in if it was implemented on VM i for one would never be turning it on.

It will be interesting to see how long it is before they start to add additional extras.

I am just glad that VM are not doing this because they would make it opt out just like the VM Advanced Network Error Search

craigj2k12 09-05-2011 16:43

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35232544)
Simple because its Opt in if it was implemented on VM i for one would never be turning it on.

It will be interesting to see how long it is before they start to add additional extras.

I am just glad that VM are not doing this because they would make it opt out just like the VM Advanced Network Error Search

not to mention the degrading of service from the extra equipment being used, by the tome the traffic has been through the service providing routers, then through qos, then through phorm, then if they added filtering into the mix, you would be adding at least 10ms to your pings

Hugh 09-05-2011 17:22

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phorm?

craigj2k12 09-05-2011 17:55

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35232643)
phorm?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phorm

Sirius 09-05-2011 18:11

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Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35232697)

I think the question should be "Who are you indicating is using Phorm when you posted"
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Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35232589)
not to mention the degrading of service from the extra equipment being used, by the tome the traffic has been through the service providing routers, then through qos, then through phorm, then if they added filtering into the mix, you would be adding at least 10ms to your pings


craigj2k12 09-05-2011 18:20

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Talk Talk to block malware.

Sirius 09-05-2011 18:24

Re: Talk Talk to block malware.
 
So are you saying Talk Talk are using Phorm ?

craigj2k12 09-05-2011 18:30

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35232718)
So are you saying Talk Talk are using Phorm ?

it wouldn't surprise me, do you know otherwise? i thought the only 2 major isps using phorm were virgin and talktalk?

either way, i couldn't give a crap what talktalk are doing because they are the worst POS service provider in the land

Sirius 09-05-2011 18:56

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Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35232721)
it wouldn't surprise me, do you know otherwise? i thought the only 2 major isps using phorm were virgin and talktalk?

either way, i couldn't give a crap what talktalk are doing because they are the worst POS service provider in the land

Both VM and Talk Talk looked at it but they both decided not to use Phorm for now !

Stuart 09-05-2011 19:07

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While this system uses Huawei hardware, as does Phorm (or so I believe), there is no indication that Huawei is Phorm. Also bear in mind that Huawei is a huge company and as such, a lot of the uks comms infrastructure so there is a good chance that your voice and data comms will at some point be carried by Huawei hardware.

craigj2k12 09-05-2011 21:00

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as iv said, the less filters etc the traffic goes through, the better it is

Mick Fisher 09-05-2011 21:55

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An ISP introducing a "value added product" that actually benefits the subscriber.

An ISP introducing a "value added product" that you can "opt-in" to.

WOW!! Well they say if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is. :D

Personally if I had Talk-Talk (and thank the Lord that I don't) then I wouldn't touch it with yours. ;)

Tarantella 10-05-2011 00:01

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Whether you opt in or not your activity will be monitored 24/7

Sirius 10-05-2011 06:10

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Originally Posted by Tarantella (Post 35232911)
Whether you opt in or not your activity will be monitored 24/7

More reasons not to have stalk stalk

craigj2k12 10-05-2011 08:18

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i wouldnt bother with it in the first place, I had it before virgin, and the downtime was greater than the uptime!!!

i had an ongoing fault for 14 months and they didnt listen every time i called

Mick Fisher 10-05-2011 12:28

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Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35232967)
i wouldnt bother with it in the first place, I had it before virgin, and the downtime was greater than the uptime!!!

i had an ongoing fault for 14 months and they didnt listen every time i called

Sounds familiar.

Perhaps they use the same offshored support center that VM employ. ;)

craigj2k12 10-05-2011 14:47

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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35233082)
Sounds familiar.

Perhaps they use the same offshored support center that VM employ. ;)

no, it was bangladesh for tisacli/talktalk allthough VM offshore is pretty poo, talktalk is on another level

Ignitionnet 10-05-2011 16:06

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35232937)
More reasons not to have stalk stalk

You think VM don't collect statistics from their DPI hardware? Every bit as intrusive, or otherwise, as this stuff :)

Sirius 10-05-2011 16:59

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35233222)
You think VM don't collect statistics from their DPI hardware? Every bit as intrusive, or otherwise, as this stuff :)

As long as they don't start using it to make money or give my data to someone else then fine. The minute i find they have given that data to someone out side the company to make money i will be asking WHY. After the phorm issue i dont trust DPI systems or the companies who make them, program them or sell them.

Ignitionnet 10-05-2011 18:12

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Zero evidence that Talk Talk are pushing data to third parties to make money either, so much of muchness.

Sirius 10-05-2011 19:04

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35233334)
Zero evidence that Talk Talk are pushing data to third parties to make money either, so much of muchness.

I never said they did.

Dai 10-05-2011 20:10

Re: Talk Talk to block malware.
 
I've had Talktalk as a backup system for over a year now and it just works.

Different strokes..

Ignitionnet 10-05-2011 21:07

Re: Talk Talk to block malware.
 
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Originally Posted by Tarantella (Post 35232911)
Whether you opt in or not your activity will be monitored 24/7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35232937)
More reasons not to have stalk stalk

Was just wondering as you mentioned the above is all, apologies if I misunderstood.

xiaochun3612 17-05-2011 03:43

Re: Talk Talk to block malware.
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35232718)
So are you saying Talk Talk are using Phorm ?

yes ... i thinl so !

Sirius 17-05-2011 18:54

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Originally Posted by xiaochun3612 (Post 35238432)
yes ... i thinl so !

Ok

timberheadverde 19-05-2011 17:26

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Wish talk talk would block themselves, useless ****

Hugh 19-05-2011 18:21

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Do not use words which invoke the site swear filter - this is against site T&Cs.

Repetition will incur infractions.


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