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telfordcable 07-05-2011 18:29

Tech Guy did it perfect
 
I would like to say many thanks to virgin media tech guy who came to my house today to installed 100 Meg, XL TV with Sky Sports & Movies with HD, and XL phone with unlimited calls. All went very well. I gave him a nice cup of tea and a cake. The tech guy had replaced a new superhub and fitted a new HD v+ box in three rooms!

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/05/130.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1285947479.png

DocDutch 07-05-2011 18:38

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
and how long you keeping this connection telford as what you've been on the 10, 20, 30, 50 and now 100 in less than a year

telfordcable 07-05-2011 18:40

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 35231244)
and how long you keeping this connection telford as what you've been on the 10, 20, 30, 50 and now 100 in less than a year

It will staying with 100 Meg for the next 18 months with new 18 months contract with everything, TV, Phone and Broadband all top packages!

Stephen 07-05-2011 18:42

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Here we go again. I give it till Monday before he is back to 30Mb. Then again he probably didn't even get anything installed and it's all a crazy nightmare.

Sirius 07-05-2011 18:48

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
I don't believe a word.

I would be more inclined to have believed you if you had said OBL was alive and well and living in the anti room at the white house.


You should change your name on here to Walter Mitty

Phil-ntl 07-05-2011 18:57

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
http://craigswinejourney.files.wordp.../facepalm2.jpg

Neo-Tech 07-05-2011 19:29

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Please don't reply to this thread anybody.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/05/108.jpg

Chrysalis 07-05-2011 19:40

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/05/111.jpg

TJS 07-05-2011 19:55

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
again?

Heres a request, send a screenshot of speedtest.net after the speedtest, showing your 100 mb result and this forum; for proof :) like so

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/05/110.jpg
(click for fullsize)

DABhand 08-05-2011 00:38

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo-Tech (Post 35231295)
Please don't reply to this thread anybody.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/05/108.jpg

Just to keep in the spirit of things and in very much tied with Neo's pic...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/05/129.png

Yes the good old Daroth episode where nothing made sense, which is the same as telford :P

jtaylor06 08-05-2011 01:12

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Guess he's back.
Oh how we've all missed that guy.

DABhand 08-05-2011 02:38

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Shame he didnt get this guy to fit his stuff

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...us/td-p/439349

Man I can't believe the non-professionalism shown by VM. Just WOW.

Sirius 08-05-2011 06:57

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35231438)
Shame he didnt get this guy to fit his stuff

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...us/td-p/439349

Man I can't believe the non-professionalism shown by VM. Just WOW.

Shocking is the only answer that springs to mind. :shocked:

TJS 08-05-2011 09:22

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35231438)
Shame he didnt get this guy to fit his stuff

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...us/td-p/439349

Man I can't believe the non-professionalism shown by VM. Just WOW.


check post 13

"it's 23 days since Virgin flooded my property..."
then at the bottom

"Virgin flooded our house 34 days ago and still haven't paid for repairs"

martyh 08-05-2011 09:49

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35231438)
Shame he didnt get this guy to fit his stuff

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...us/td-p/439349

Man I can't believe the non-professionalism shown by VM. Just WOW.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/62...nightmare.html

same chap is posting here looking for help

Jayster 08-05-2011 09:57

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35231549)
check post 13

"it's 23 days since Virgin flooded my property..."
then at the bottom

"Virgin flooded our house 34 days ago and still haven't paid for repairs"

The bottom is his signature.

telfordcable 08-05-2011 11:32

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/results/93858932.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1286742661.png
http://speedtest.uk.net/result/30423/
http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/res...181&v=12767366

Cable Modem Downstream
DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4
Frequency 299000000 307000000 315000000 323000000
Lock Status
(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock) Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y
Channel Id 197 198 199 200
Modulation 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM
Symbol Rate
(Msym/sec) 6.952 6.952 6.952 6.952
Interleave Depth I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17
Power Level
(dBmV) 11.49 11.89 12.43 12.85
RxMER
(dB) 36.39 36.84 37.36 37.86
Correctable
Codewords 131 42 25 19
Uncorrectable
Codewords 281 277 303 284

Cable Modem Upstream
US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A N/A
Channel ID 1 N/A N/A N/A
Frequency
(Hz) 45800000 N/A N/A N/A
Ranging Status Success N/A N/A N/A
Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A N/A
Symbol Rate
(KSym/sec) 5120 N/A N/A N/A
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A N/A
Power Level
(dBmV) 33.25 N/A N/A N/A
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0

Cable Modem Operation Configuration
General Configuration
Network Access : Allowed
Maximum Number of CPEs : 1
Baseline Privacy : Enabled
DOCSIS Mode : DOCSIS 3.0
Config File : *****************.**
Primary Downstream Service Flow
SFID : 25462
Max Traffic Rate : 102400000 bps
Max Traffic Burst : 10000 bytes
Min Traffic Rate : 0 bps
Primary Upstream Service Flow
SFID : 25576
Max Traffic Rate : 10250000 bps
Max Traffic Burst : 16320 bytes
Min Traffic Rate : 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst : 16320 bytes
Scheduling Type : Best Effort

craigj2k12 08-05-2011 11:37

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231657)
http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/results/93858932.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1286742661.png
http://speedtest.uk.net/result/30423/
http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/res...181&v=12767366

Cable Modem Downstream
DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4
Frequency 299000000 307000000 315000000 323000000
Lock Status
(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock) Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y
Channel Id 197 198 199 200
Modulation 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM
Symbol Rate
(Msym/sec) 6.952 6.952 6.952 6.952
Interleave Depth I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17
Power Level
(dBmV) 11.49 11.89 12.43 12.85
RxMER
(dB) 36.39 36.84 37.36 37.86
Correctable
Codewords 131 42 25 19
Uncorrectable
Codewords 281 277 303 284

Cable Modem Upstream
US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A N/A
Channel ID 1 N/A N/A N/A
Frequency
(Hz) 45800000 N/A N/A N/A
Ranging Status Success N/A N/A N/A
Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A N/A
Symbol Rate
(KSym/sec) 5120 N/A N/A N/A
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A N/A
Power Level
(dBmV) 33.25 N/A N/A N/A
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0

Cable Modem Operation Configuration
General Configuration
Network Access : Allowed
Maximum Number of CPEs : 1
Baseline Privacy : Enabled
DOCSIS Mode : DOCSIS 3.0
Config File : *****************.**
Primary Downstream Service Flow
SFID : 25462
Max Traffic Rate : 102400000 bps
Max Traffic Burst : 10000 bytes
Min Traffic Rate : 0 bps
Primary Upstream Service Flow
SFID : 25576
Max Traffic Rate : 10250000 bps
Max Traffic Burst : 16320 bytes
Min Traffic Rate : 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst : 16320 bytes
Scheduling Type : Best Effort

errm thats a VMNG300's stats, and your say your on 100mb????
please explain

presuming that they are your stats, your downstream power levels are too high, and your upstream too low

Sirius 08-05-2011 11:41

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231657)
http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/results/93858932.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1286742661.png
http://speedtest.uk.net/result/30423/
http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/res...181&v=12767366

Cable Modem Downstream
DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4
Frequency 299000000 307000000 315000000 323000000
Lock Status
(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock) Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y
Channel Id 197 198 199 200
Modulation 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM
Symbol Rate
(Msym/sec) 6.952 6.952 6.952 6.952
Interleave Depth I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17
Power Level
(dBmV) 11.49 11.89 12.43 12.85
RxMER
(dB) 36.39 36.84 37.36 37.86
Correctable
Codewords 131 42 25 19
Uncorrectable
Codewords 281 277 303 284

Cable Modem Upstream
US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A N/A
Channel ID 1 N/A N/A N/A
Frequency
(Hz) 45800000 N/A N/A N/A
Ranging Status Success N/A N/A N/A
Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A N/A
Symbol Rate
(KSym/sec) 5120 N/A N/A N/A
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A N/A
Power Level
(dBmV) 33.25 N/A N/A N/A
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0

Cable Modem Operation Configuration
General Configuration
Network Access : Allowed
Maximum Number of CPEs : 1
Baseline Privacy : Enabled
DOCSIS Mode : DOCSIS 3.0
Config File : *****************.**
Primary Downstream Service Flow
SFID : 25462
Max Traffic Rate : 102400000 bps
Max Traffic Burst : 10000 bytes
Min Traffic Rate : 0 bps
Primary Upstream Service Flow
SFID : 25576
Max Traffic Rate : 10250000 bps
Max Traffic Burst : 16320 bytes
Min Traffic Rate : 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst : 16320 bytes
Scheduling Type : Best Effort

:spin::spin::spin:

telfordcable 08-05-2011 11:41

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
yep I am on the VMNG300 - the tech guy replaced my superhub as he agree that superhub is rubbish!

I also get the wi-fi of max-out of over 95Meg but with superhub, it rubbish never get any max-out even with R26 is the worse ever firmware version by VM. Tech guy say the power level is fine within the range of 100Meg.

craigj2k12 08-05-2011 11:43

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231665)
yep I am on the VMNG300 - the tech guy replaced my superhub as he agree that superhub is rubbish!

I also get the wi-fi of max-out of over 95Meg but with superhub, it rubbish never get any max-out even with R26 is the worse ever firmware version by VM. Tech guy say the power level is fine within the range of 100Meg.

are you getting drop out, loss of speed, you should be with those power levels?

telfordcable 08-05-2011 11:44

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35231668)
are you getting drop out, loss of speed, you should be with those power levels?

Nope, no drop out or no loss of speed at all.

craigj2k12 08-05-2011 11:44

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231670)
Nope, no drop out or no loss of speed at all.

post the error log from the modem

Sirius 08-05-2011 11:45

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35231671)
post the error log from the modem

You know what they say about feeding time :)

telfordcable 08-05-2011 11:45

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35231671)
post the error log from the modem

Cable Modem Event Log
First Time Last Time Priority Description


No error there yet since yesterday!

craigj2k12 08-05-2011 11:47

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231673)
Cable Modem Event Log
First Time Last Time Priority Description


No error there yet since yesterday!

im not convinced, photographic evidence?

telfordcable 08-05-2011 11:48

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Cable Modem Information
Cable Modem : DOCSIS 1.0/1.1/2.0/3.0 Compliant
Serial Number : ****************
Boot Code Version : 6.1.1c
Software Version : 3.11.1201
Hardware Version : 1.39.0
CA Key : Installed

Cable Modem Status
Item Status Comments
Acquired Downstream Channel 299 MHz Primary Downstream Locked
Ranged Upstream Channel 45.8 MHz Success
Provisioning State OK Operational
Ethernet Link Status Up 1000 Mbps/Full duplex

Cable Modem Upstream Burst



US-1


Req


Init Maint


Per Maint


Adv Short


Adv Long


Adv UGS


(1)


(3)


(4)


(9)


(10)


(11)
Modulation Type QPSK QPSK QPSK 16QAM 16QAM 16QAM
Differential Encoding OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF
Preamble Length 64 640 384 96 104 104
Preamble Value Offset 652 6 6 1028 1028 1028
FEC Error Correction (T) 0 5 5 6 8 8
FEC Codeword Information Bytes (k) 16 34 34 75 219 219
Maximum Burst Size 0 0 0 6 0 0
Guard Time Size 8 48 48 8 8 8
Last Codeword Length FIX FIX FIX SHORT SHORT SHORT
Scrambler on/off ON ON ON ON ON ON

craigj2k12 08-05-2011 11:50

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231677)
Cable Modem Information
Cable Modem : DOCSIS 1.0/1.1/2.0/3.0 Compliant
Serial Number : ****************
Boot Code Version : 6.1.1c
Software Version : 3.11.1201
Hardware Version : 1.39.0
CA Key : Installed

Cable Modem Status
Item Status Comments
Acquired Downstream Channel 299 MHz Primary Downstream Locked
Ranged Upstream Channel 45.8 MHz Success
Provisioning State OK Operational
Ethernet Link Status Up 1000 Mbps/Full duplex

take photo of your computer, with the config screen of the modem on, showing the connection stats, with the computer next to the modem

telfordcable 08-05-2011 11:55

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/05/107.jpg

Paul 08-05-2011 11:56

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231246)
It will staying with 100 Meg for the next 18 months with new 18 months contract with everything, TV, Phone and Broadband all top packages!

Oh good, so we can look forward to not hearing from you for 18 months now. Yipee :D

craigj2k12 08-05-2011 12:00

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
judging by those power levels the tech guy did not 'do it perfect'

telfordcable 08-05-2011 12:03

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35231698)
judging by those power levels the tech guy did not 'do it perfect'

who care ! As long I am getting solid 96 meg download and 9.5 upload and no problem on wi-fi so why should I worry about power level ?

craigj2k12 08-05-2011 12:06

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231699)
who care ! As long I am getting solid 96 meg download and 9.5 upload and no problem on wi-fi so why should I worry about power level ?

power levels dont mean everything, if it aint broke dont fix it. as we have discussed, the VMNG300 is more rugged and can probably cope with power levels where yours are, but I do not believe for one minute that you have changed package once again

but youve had 100meg before and you said it was rubbish

telfordcable 08-05-2011 12:09

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
my 100 meg are fine! got download transfer rate of 12.6MB/s

craigj2k12 08-05-2011 12:12

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231704)
my 100 meg are fine! got download transfer rate of 12.6MB/s

why do you keep changing you avatar, it was a gremlin, then a blue bin laden, now a normal bin laden, what are you doing?

telfordcable 08-05-2011 12:16

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35231710)
why do you keep changing you avatar, it was a gremlin, then a blue bin laden, now a normal bin laden, what are you doing?

Just testing avatar to suit the secret coded name!

craigj2k12 08-05-2011 12:17

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

EvilFace Osama Bin Laden
you are one strange being

telfordcable 08-05-2011 12:20

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35231716)
you are one strange being

The video of USA released of osama bin laden sit on the floor watched himself on the tv is not him at all (that's not him!) USA are lied!

craigj2k12 08-05-2011 12:22

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231722)
The video of USA released of osama bin laden sit on the floor watched himself on the tv is not him at all (that's not him!) USA are lied!

are you English? your grammar makes it seem like you are foreign

Sirius 08-05-2011 12:29

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231722)
The video of USA released of osama bin laden sit on the floor watched himself on the tv is not him at all (that's not him!) USA are lied!

As of now you are permanently on my "user is a gimp list" and added to ignore

**********Edit************

Added and it means i don't have to see his stupid avatar ether . Result :LOL:

Mal 08-05-2011 12:53

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35231729)
As of now you are permanently on my "user is a gimp list" and added to ignore

**********Edit************

Added and it means i don't have to seen his stupid avatar ether. Result :LOL:

That's a shame, it's quite good at the moment ;)

DABhand 08-05-2011 14:17

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Im sorry, but his Upstream modulation is wrong for 100mb, shouldn't he be on ATDMA which is a pile o crap anyways.

Ignitionnet 08-05-2011 14:31

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35231808)
Im sorry, but his Upstream modulation is wrong for 100mb, shouldn't he be on ATDMA which is a pile o crap anyways.

The upstream modulation is fine. ATDMA isn't a modulation and isn't a pile of crap.

DABhand 08-05-2011 14:37

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
ATDMA shares upstream with other users locally, how is it not crap :P

QAM16 on 100mb? Is it only ATDMA for the superhub then?

If so then I am glad I still have the VMNG300 in the background if I ever decide I want to stay at end of year and go with 100mb. And thats a big IF :P

Ignitionnet 08-05-2011 15:18

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35231824)
ATDMA shares upstream with other users locally, how is it not crap :P

Cable is shared. ATDMA manages a shared resource reasonably efficiently.

I could explain more but I don't have the inclination given the rest of your post.

GrimUpNorth 08-05-2011 15:55

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
I know everyone will sigh at me for ignoring the no feeding signs but according to the 'Finally Arrives Here' thread you started on 13 March:

Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35193128)
I got 100 Meg finally arrive here today and here is my wifi wireless speed......

Then after a couple of days of endless speed/ping tests on 15 March:

Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35193336)
just downgrade back to XL 30 meg now as I don't like 100 meg at all. speed is all over the place, 25, 42, 52, 61, 77, 83 and 96 meg and very poor upload speed with poor ping.

Then 20 minutes later you backed it up with:

Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35193342)
I now realise myself that both L 10 Meg and XL 30 Meg is more solid and far better than rubbish XXL 50 Meg and 100 Meg (very poor indeed and not worth the money!) I shall not go ahead with 200 Meg in a few years time. I am now staying with XL 30 Meg forever! :)

Early hours of the next day (16 March - keep up eveyone!!):

Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35193669)
100Meg isn't worth it to be honest, waste of £45 a month for silly low speed!

Later that same day:

Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35193803)
Just upgrade back to 100 Meg as tech guy had fixed my power level. It now stable 98.79Meg download and 9.42Meg upload. Downloading transfer rate of 10.2Mb/s solid. Ping is now 6ms. Much better :)

On the 17 March after we had all discussed how much all these changes must be costing you, it looked like you were going to stick it out on your new tier:

Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35194250)
Look folk, it real as my ebilling is in credit of -£103.00 as I owe virgin media zero bill this month and the activation fee is free of charge upgrade to 100Meg from 30Meg. No charge as they credit me £30.00 for activation fee. 100 Meg no problem here so far! Got 4ms ping and 0ms jitter!

13:17 - 18 March, after we've all debated at length if you are for real or not the news we've all been expecting:

Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35194979)
Revert back to 30 Meg today

22 March:

Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35197819)
I am now on large 10 meg just downgrade from XL 30 meg to L 10 meg now!

I don't need 30Meg, I don't need 50Meg, I don't need 100Meg and I don't need 200Meg in future. I only surf the internet, forum, chat and email and that's was it.

25 March:

Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35199439)
I am now back to 50 Meg XXL with VMNG300! Activated today.

19:29 7 May:

Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231240)
I would like to say many thanks to virgin media tech guy who came to my house today to installed 100 Meg, XL TV with Sky Sports & Movies with HD, and XL phone with unlimited calls. All went very well. I gave him a nice cup of tea and a cake. The tech guy had replaced a new superhub and fitted a new HD v+ box in three rooms!

19:40 7 May:

Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231246)
It will staying with 100 Meg for the next 18 months with new 18 months contract with everything, TV, Phone and Broadband all top packages!

@Telford, I was going to do a graph of your speed changes, but thought it might give me a funny turn. Can't you see from the above why nobody can take anything you say seriously?

If you manage to go for 18 months without changing to a different package I could be tempted to pay your 19th months broadband for you, not that I think for a minute I'll be getting my cheque book out!!

Cheers
Grim

TJS 08-05-2011 16:34

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Care to respond to my request telford?

Sirius 08-05-2011 16:34

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35231866)
I know everyone will sigh at me for ignoring the no feeding signs but according to the 'Finally Arrives Here' thread you started on 13 March:



Then after a couple of days of endless speed/ping tests on 15 March:



Then 20 minutes later you backed it up with:



Early hours of the next day (16 March - keep up eveyone!!):



Later that same day:



On the 17 March after we had all discussed how much all these changes must be costing you, it looked like you were going to stick it out on your new tier:



13:17 - 18 March, after we've all debated at length if you are for real or not the news we've all been expecting:



22 March:



25 March:



19:29 7 May:



19:40 7 May:



@Telford, I was going to do a graph of your speed changes, but thought it might give me a funny turn. Can't you see from the above why nobody can take anything you say seriously?

If you manage to go for 18 months without changing to a different package I could be tempted to pay your 19th months broadband for you, not that I think for a minute I'll be getting my cheque book out!!

Cheers
Grim

That poster will post every now and then with a complete load of bull excreta that Walter Mitty would have not made up. He knows that the admins here cannot touch him because he stays just this side of the line. Everyone should do what i have done and put the fool on ignore

DABhand 08-05-2011 17:11

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35231894)
That poster will post every now and then with a complete load of bull excreta that Walter Mitty would have not made up. He knows that the admins here cannot touch him because he stays just this side of the line. Everyone should do what i have done and put the fool on ignore

Admin's perogative no? If he is that much of a disruption even keeping in toe with the rules, then I am sure they can use discretion and just ban him :P

martyh 08-05-2011 17:16

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
I'm confused as to how anyone can manage to upgrade and downgrade in such a short space of time .Each new package would require a new contract surely ?

DABhand 08-05-2011 17:17

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35231839)
Cable is shared. ATDMA manages a shared resource reasonably efficiently.

I could explain more but I don't have the inclination given the rest of your post.

I know about ATDMA, I have explained it myself on the VM forums how it works etc. So no need to explain.

I still think its a pile of rubbish myself, there is other ways.

Oh and btw ATDMA is a modulation type. Overall I would prefer SCDMA over ATDMA.

EDIT: I remember me and pip having a discussion about this, but pip just opened up a new thread and didn't bother to respond :P

Chrysalis 08-05-2011 17:25

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35231921)
I know about ATDMA, I have explained it myself on the VM forums how it works etc. So no need to explain.

I still think its a pile of rubbish myself, there is other ways.

Oh and btw ATDMA is a modulation type. Overall I would prefer SCDMA over ATDMA.

so this here.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35230501-post2.html

VM are not actually using scdma on docsis2 then? sounds like a mode that would help latency. It does seem VM are barely utilising docsis2, no qam64 and no scdma.

Sirius 08-05-2011 17:28

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35231919)
I'm confused as to how anyone can manage to upgrade and downgrade in such a short space of time .Each new package would require a new contract surely ?

I would find it shocking if it was true ;)

DABhand 08-05-2011 17:35

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35231928)
so this here.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35230501-post2.html

VM are not actually using scdma on docsis2 then? sound slike a mode that would help latency. It does seem VM are barely utilising docsis2, no qam64 and no scdma.

SCDMA has other benefits, it can utilize 128QAM with TCM (Trellis Coded Modulation). Also the fact that there is not time slots assigned per modem on the upstream, so modems can transmit Asynchronous, but as some people know ATDMA is not Asynchronous and assigns time slots to each modem on the same node so it is not a continuous data transmition.

pip08456 08-05-2011 17:37

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35231928)
so this here.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35230501-post2.html

VM are not actually using scdma on docsis2 then? sound slike a mode that would help latency. It does seem VM are barely utilising docsis2, no qam64 and no scdma.

Quote:

ATDMA is a direct evolution of DOCSIS 1.x physical layer (PHY), which uses TDMA multiplexing. DOCSIS 1.x upstream PHY uses a frequency division multiple access (FDMA)/TDMA burst multiplexing technique. FDMA accommodates simultaneous operation of multiple radio frequency (RF) channels on different frequencies. TDMA allows multiple cable modems to share the same individual RF channel, because it allocates each cable modem its own time slot in which to transmit. TDMA is carried over in DOCSIS 2.0, with numerous enhancements. SCDMA is a different approach, in which up to 128 symbols are transmitted simultaneously via 128 orthogonal codes. SCDMA multiplexing allows multiple modems to transmit in the same time slot. Both ATDMA and SCDMA provide the same maximum data throughput, although one might perform better than the other under specific operating conditions.

and

In order to get high throughput with SCDMA, the modems must all be time aligned within a fraction of the symbol rate. Otherwise, the “S” (synchronous) part of CDMA fails, and the data from one modem corrupts the data from other modems. The result is packet loss. The timing resolution is measured in nanoseconds. There are issues when you measure things in nanoseconds across a distance of 40 km (a short network) or up to 320 km (a long network):

minute changes in fiber path distance, caused by temperature (expansion and contraction of the glass itself)

expansion of the coaxial network (which is why every span has an expansion loop)

the fact that the speed of light also changes with temperature, in both fiber and coaxial line (Velocity of Propagation as a percentage of speed of light)

Every 1 second, an SCDMA modem must be time-aligned, if the modem is more than 20 km from the headend, even if less than half of that network is overhead plant. This represents at least 60 to 80 percent of the cable modems for most multiple service operators (MSOs).

If the hybrid fiber-coaxial (HFC) network is 100 percent underground (including the fiber), the modems are less than 10 km from the headend, and the temperature is very constant for a given day. Then the modems can be time-aligned less often.

Apparently, timing alignment had become a major problem with the modems of some vendors in general. They lose synchronization with the downstream and do not realize it, and then transmit at the wrong time. Therefore, the modem transmits at a time that is reserved for another modem and causes packet loss both for itself and for the other modem. The packet loss for all modems vanishes when only the bad modems are removed from the network.
source

DABhand 08-05-2011 17:50

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Cmon Pip put it into your own words surely you got taught that at school :)

What it doesn't say even though it is the same max throughput, ATDMA due to its time sloted upstream channels can cause packet loss when sending data packets to a destination, etc.

Again SCDMA is superior, in the fact as said it can handle 128QAM and use TCM. And Asynchronous upstream channels, even to us it is unnoticeable for the ATDMA timeslots but to the modem etc it is eternity :P

Maggy 08-05-2011 17:51

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Topic?

martyh 08-05-2011 17:52

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35231955)
Topic?


is there one ?

DABhand 08-05-2011 17:53

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
I saw Telford posting modem stats, and assumed that 100mb uses ATDMA upstream, so said... but it seems to have turned into a debate. Which is more entertaining than Telford.

Maggy 08-05-2011 18:08

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35231960)
I saw Telford posting modem stats, and assumed that 100mb uses ATDMA upstream, so said... but it seems to have turned into a debate. Which is more entertaining than Telford.

Then open a thread about it..But keep to topic in this thread.

DABhand 08-05-2011 18:15

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
It is on topic!

He said he got 100mb, I stated that the modulation seemed wrong, and it carried on from there discussing here and there.

I initially said but did not start the debate, so why am I being fingered out.

Besides, like someone said - Is there a topic. Hell even Telford has went off tangents also.

Ok, I will be nice about this...

Dear Maggy J,

What is the topic of this said thread please?

telfordcable 08-05-2011 18:25

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35231931)
I would find it shocking if it was true ;)

I had upgrade and downgrade on ADSL 88th times since 2002. Upgrade and downgrade 28th times since 2007 with virgin media.

---------- Post added at 19:25 ---------- Previous post was at 19:22 ----------

It cost me nearly £4,300 to upgrade, downgrade with ADSL and Virgin Media Cable since 2002 and 2007. My monies going to ran out in my bank!

martyh 08-05-2011 18:26

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231988)
I had upgrade and downgrade on ADSL 88th times since 2002. Upgrade and downgrade 28th times since 2007 with virgin media.

At risk of starting something that might never finish ....WHY?:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Chrysalis 08-05-2011 18:26

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
from what pip pasted and what dabhand is saying I get the impression SCDMA is superior and would have a noticeble impact on jitter however is more diffilcult to get working optimally. So still seems like VM just went for the easiest and cheapest option of upgrading the upstream, they simply went one step up doing the minimal as docsis1 was already maxed out. When they had the opportunity to do a much better upgrade jump by utilising 40mbit channels and this SCDMA mode. does anyone know what comcast and other cable providers are utilising?

martyh 08-05-2011 18:29

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35231988)

It cost me nearly £4,300 to upgrade, downgrade with ADSL and Virgin Media Cable since 2002 and 2007. My monies going to ran out in my bank!


Oh dear ,it's a good job VM don't have anymore packages for you to try

It would appear that each time you have upgraded/dpwngraded then you have been charged a substantial ammpunt of money ,possibly the cost of the contract ,so once again........ WHY?

Sirius 08-05-2011 18:38

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35232000)
Oh dear ,it's a good job VM don't have anymore packages for you to try

It would appear that each time you have upgraded/dpwngraded then you have been charged a substantial ammpunt of money ,possibly the cost of the contract ,so once again........ WHY?

Do you honestly expect an adult answer to that question :LOL:

telfordcable 08-05-2011 18:40

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
video here of 100 Meg:

View My Video

pip08456 08-05-2011 18:42

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35232000)
Oh dear ,it's a good job VM don't have anymore packages for you to try

It would appear that each time you have upgraded/dpwngraded then you have been charged a substantial ammpunt of money ,possibly the cost of the contract ,so once again........ WHY?

Don't worry, there will eventually be 200Mb, 400Mb and 1GB for him to try eventually.:D

Chrys, I note you only refer to the advantages of SCDMA and seem to ignore the disadvantages as does DABhand.

AFAIK (which is limited) it is only used for mobile eg 3G etc. Igni is the best one to answer perhaps.

telfordcable 08-05-2011 18:44

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
£4,300 isn't coming from my money! It from government tax money that paid for me!

Virgin Media customer support ask me why do I kept upgrade and downgrade and it cost alots of money to pay installation and activation charge and I told them "look it none of your business, do u want my business ?" and they went ahead and say "it your money sir"

martyh 08-05-2011 18:50

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35232016)
£4,300 isn't coming from my money! It from government tax money that paid for me!

Virgin Media customer support ask me why do I kept upgrade and downgrade and it cost alots of money to pay installation and activation charge and I told them "look it none of your business, do u want my business ?" and they went ahead and say "it your money sir"


Government tax money ,what do you mean by that ?

DABhand 08-05-2011 18:53

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
He is talking pants. Firstly the video he posted is not date stamped etc so could be from someone else on another forum etc. I would be more impressed if he had this forum page on the video then onto a speed test by minimizing or swapping tabs.

Plus he did say in a post earlier that the monies in his bank is going to run out.

I dunno sounds like he is a type of person who longs to be better than others so invents situations to suit. IMHO.

Sirius 08-05-2011 19:00

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35232027)
He is talking pants. Firstly the video he posted is not date stamped etc so could be from someone else on another forum etc. I would be more impressed if he had this forum page on the video then onto a speed test by minimizing or swapping tabs.

Plus he did say in a post earlier that the monies in his bank is going to run out.

I dunno sounds like he is a type of person who longs to be better than others so invents situations to suit. IMHO.

May i refer the honorable gentleman to post 5:D

telfordcable 08-05-2011 19:10

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35232027)
He is talking pants. Firstly the video he posted is not date stamped etc so could be from someone else on another forum etc. I would be more impressed if he had this forum page on the video then onto a speed test by minimizing or swapping tabs.

Here is my proof video here with speed test following by date and time:
View My Video

DABhand 08-05-2011 19:21

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Ok that shows something that is done just after 8pm, but that could be yesterday, last week, last month - and again no reference to this post to see that it is indeed today. So you may well be on 100mb. But if you are doing all this and paying monies from the "government". Then why are you so eager to downgrade and upgrade while paying cancellation fees etc?

You will never always get 100mb, it all depends on the other server you are getting from, perhaps their maximum upstream is 50mb, so you will get 50mb from them assuming no one else is getting at the time.

So just stick at it and use it.

Don't see the reason why you make these posts.... I just don't know, maybe something in the water at Telford.

Maggy 08-05-2011 19:24

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35231978)
It is on topic!

He said he got 100mb, I stated that the modulation seemed wrong, and it carried on from there discussing here and there.

I initially said but did not start the debate, so why am I being fingered out.

Besides, like someone said - Is there a topic. Hell even Telford has went off tangents also.

Ok, I will be nice about this...

Dear Maggy J,

What is the topic of this said thread please?

It is about telfordcable's upgrade apparently.

Just don't digress onto other topics please and I'm trying to be nice so I will remind you that arguing in public with a moderator is subject to an infraction.

Chrysalis 08-05-2011 19:42

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Maggy J I apologose for my reply which I posted after your post, can you please if possible move posts relating to ATDMA and SCDMA to this thread?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...s-2-parts.html

As I think was a good discussion, thanks.

pip08456 08-05-2011 19:48

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35232034)
Here is my proof video here with speed test following by date and time:
View My Video

Sorry TC, there's no date on there.

---------- Post added at 20:48 ---------- Previous post was at 20:44 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35232050)
Maggy J I apologose for my reply which I posted after your post, can you please if possible move posts relating to ATDMA and SCDMA to this thread?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...s-2-parts.html

As I think was a good discussion, thanks.

You can move mine there if you want as well.:D

Skie 08-05-2011 19:50

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
I feel happy knowing that taxpayers are the ones footing the bill for this dolts escapades through VM's complicated billing system.

I look forward to him moving up to the 1.5gb business trials!

jtaylor06 08-05-2011 19:53

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skie (Post 35232054)
I feel happy knowing that taxpayers are the ones footing the bill for this dolts escapades through VM's complicated billing system.

I look forward to him moving up to the 1.5gb business trials!

He would have to change his name to londoncable and go to one of the London businesses in trial for that to happen :p:

Maggy 08-05-2011 19:55

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35232050)
Maggy J I apologose for my reply which I posted after your post, can you please if possible move posts relating to ATDMA and SCDMA to this thread?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...s-2-parts.html

As I think was a good discussion, thanks.

Sorry but that would be a little too complicated to do and that thread would not flow correctly.

pip08456 08-05-2011 20:00

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35232057)
Sorry but that would be a little too complicated to do and that thread would not flow correctly.

Don't know about the flow of the thread Maggy as ATDMA and SCDMA are already mentioned and are both part of the DOCSIS 2 platform which the thread is about.

I can see the problem moving individual posts to it though.:D

Chrysalis 08-05-2011 20:00

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
I linked to this thread from the other so we can discuss the SCDMA stuff there now.

Maggy 08-05-2011 20:03

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35232064)
I linked to this thread from the other so we can discuss the SCDMA stuff there now.

That may help..Hope it doesn't confuse.;)

Ignitionnet 08-05-2011 20:21

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35231939)
SCDMA has other benefits, it can utilize 128QAM with TCM (Trellis Coded Modulation). Also the fact that there is not time slots assigned per modem on the upstream, so modems can transmit Asynchronous, but as some people know ATDMA is not Asynchronous and assigns time slots to each modem on the same node so it is not a continuous data transmition.

SCDMA is less efficient than ATDMA. 128QAM requires an insane upstream SNR, 64QAM is a challenge for operators to push to let alone another 3dB to cater to 128QAM and after overheads it doesn't actually provide anything more than 64QAM ATDMA.

SCDMA does indeed have a purpose, it is more resilient in the presence of burst noise that ATDMA, however horses for courses. If it were so evidently superior everyone would be doing it. They aren't.

Maggy 08-05-2011 20:28

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35232085)
SCDMA is less efficient than ATDMA. 128QAM requires an insane upstream SNR, 64QAM is a challenge for operators to push to let alone another 3dB to cater to 128QAM and after overheads it doesn't actually provide anything more than 64QAM ATDMA.

SCDMA does indeed have a purpose, it is more resilient in the presence of burst noise that ATDMA, however horses for courses. If it were so evidently superior everyone would be doing it. They aren't.

Could you please take such discussions to this thread to prevent it being taken any further off topic.Thank you.

telfordcable 09-05-2011 12:25

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Tech Guy is booked for this thursday to check my power levels correctly. I had spoken to tech support and they had check my VMNG300 power level signal and say it need to be booked again for tech guy.

AdamD 09-05-2011 12:30

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
I clearly don't understand tax/business law, how or rather, why would the government foot the bill for someone's inability to decide on a product?

Chrysalis 09-05-2011 17:12

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Either he got a load of tax rebate or is some sort of benefit income hence him saying government money.

Skie 09-05-2011 17:14

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
With the poor English I'm guessing he is some sort of bod from abroad looking to test out our countries tiers of cable.

craigj2k12 09-05-2011 17:19

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skie (Post 35232625)
With the poor English I'm guessing he is some sort of bod from abroad looking to test out our countries tiers of cable.

hahahahaaaa, maybe he is from offshore tech support?

martyh 09-05-2011 17:21

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35232623)
Either he got a load of tax rebate or is some sort of benefit income hence him saying government money.

well a tax rebate is still his money so i am still confused :confused:

Sirius 09-05-2011 17:22

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Think i know what he is but if i post it i would be banned :LOL:

pip08456 09-05-2011 17:23

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35232642)
Think i know what he is but if i post it i would be banned :LOL:

Likewise!:D

craigj2k12 09-05-2011 17:23

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35232642)
Think i know what he is but if i post it i would be banned :LOL:

PM's are always good ;)

its got to be either fraudster or something racist

martyh 09-05-2011 17:23

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35232642)
Think i know what he is but if i post it i would be banned :LOL:

do tell i'm intriged :D

TJS 09-05-2011 17:24

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35232623)
Either he got a load of tax rebate or is some sort of benefit income hence him saying government money.

no no, "monies":dozey:

pip08456 09-05-2011 17:25

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35232646)
PM's are always good ;)

its got to be either fraudster or something racist

I would not judge anyone who posts on a forum as to their personal circumstances. I know he's an idiot though!

craigj2k12 09-05-2011 17:25

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35232648)
no no, "monies":dozey:

george agdgdgwngo

Sirius 09-05-2011 17:25

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35232646)
PM's are always good ;)

its got to be either fraudster or something racist

I don't do racist stuff :(

Ok here you go

He's a complete plonker Rodney

craigj2k12 09-05-2011 17:27

Re: Tech Guy did it perfect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35232650)
I would not judge anyone who posts on a forum as to their personal circumstances.

anything in that post wasnt an assumption, the only assumption i have about TC is that he is foreign, and he is an attention seeker. I feel i am able to post this, because every member of this forum knows this, even TC himself

---------- Post added at 18:27 ---------- Previous post was at 18:26 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35232652)
I don't do racist stuff :(

but you are from Warrington? not the part iv been to obviously ;):D:D


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