Originally Posted by Lord Nikon (Post 35228792)

Although - for those who do the job because it gives them a power trip - they would probably go for it again, and that's not necessarily a good thing

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35229050)

Except not exactly a power trip since they'll be starting at the bottom, like a new recruit. Probably having to report to people who were once their subordinates.

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35229056)

Doubtful. I reckon the special status would be in title only and they might well end up exactly where they were before.

Plenty of cops already retire after their 30 years and come back into civilian jobs like radio operators, evidence storekeepers and desk clerks. Can't say I've ever heard of someone retire then come back as a special though.

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35229056)

Doubtful. I reckon the special status would be in title only and they might well end up exactly where they were before.

Plenty of cops already retire after their 30 years and come back into civilian jobs like radio operators, evidence storekeepers and desk clerks. Can't say I've ever heard of someone retire then come back as a special though.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35229106)

would they be able to manage the transition from "used to untill a short while ago be proper copper" to a "not a proper copper with less power" wouldn't the temptation always be to overstep the bounds of a special constable

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35229129)

A nice little partime job a few days a week and you have a lovely retirement.

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35229124)

"...technically a new recruit"
http://www.itv.com/central-west/back-on-the-beat51758/




Specials are 'proper coppers' who don't get paid, I think you're confusing them with PCSOs ;)

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35229129)

Well I would have thought that those lucky policemen that are now retiring early on a full pension that will be paid for by the tax payer for, potentially decades, might just give a few hours a week.

I mean if could retire on a full pension around the age of, say, fifty. A nice little partime job a few days a week and you have a lovely retirement.

I can't see what they're complaining about.

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35229143)

Except they aren't retiring early. They've done a full 30 years but decided not to retire as soon as possible. They have since been forced into retirement and asked back as specials.

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35229143)

Except they aren't retiring early. They've done a full 30 years but decided not to retire as soon as possible. They have since been forced into retirement and asked back as specials.

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35229179)

Ooh, a full 30 years eh?

I'll have done a full 47 years by the time I retire without the luxury of the tax payer guaranteeing my pension.

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35229274)

How much are your monthly contributions to the pension, more than 11%?

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35229336)

Big wow.

I currently pay 10% into my own pension scheme, my employer match's that contribution.

Let's look at it simplistically.

A constables pay after 10years service is around £36,500 not including overtime or other allowances.

if we use that figure.

11% of that = £4015.

x 30 years = £120,450.

If you have 30 years service youn are entitled to 2/3rd your final salary per annum which would be: £24,300 per annum.

Now if the constable joined aged 20, and retired at 50 and lived a healthy happy live to around say 80? not unreasonable.

His total pension payout would be: £730,000.

Minus his massive 11% contribution of £120,450 = tax payer liability of £609,550. approx 5x you contributions.

So don't tell me to jog on.



Not as demanding as some officers no. possibly comparable to some officers.

But them again I live in a world were I can lose my job through redundancy, I have a family and a large mortgage and I don't have the security blanket of not being able to be made redundant.

You don't have that stress do you?



I not moaning, the T&Cs of police are what they are and good luck to them, it's the moaning police I object to.

The outrage of the suggestion that they may give a few hours a week back, whilst they're happily earning 2/3 of their final salary guaranteed. oh the outrage.