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Nicosia 01-05-2011 17:12

is it possible to change my ip?
 
^^ ?? i need to change my ip for security reasons and i dont know if it is possible some how to change it? i believe on cable it never changes but if there some way i can request a new one or change it myself on the hub?


TIA

craigj2k12 01-05-2011 17:15

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
you cant change it on the superhub, as its a modem and router combined, so the mac address wont change, but if you leave it turned off for about half an hour and turn it back on again you might get a new DHCP lease, but its unlikely

Nicosia 01-05-2011 17:21

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
i dont have the suberhub its a netgear one but a hub.... so i assume same rule applies?

if i ring vm can they change it for me?

Kymmy 01-05-2011 17:24

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
If you're on the netgear router with a seperate modem then just change the MAC in the hub.. Reboot the hub and reboot the modem.

VM will not change the IP for you

craigj2k12 01-05-2011 17:26

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
I presume the standard hub? like this:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/05/150.png

if so, its still the same, it is a router and modem combined, so the modem will register the mac address of the router, which you cant change.

If you have a desperate security issue and you need your IP changing, im sure you will probably be able to get tech support to do it, as long as you get through to someone who knows what their talking about.

What is the security reason?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35226640)
If you're on the netgear router with a seperate modem then just change the MAC in the hub.. Reboot the hub and reboot the modem.

VM will not change the IP for you

why will they not change it?

Kymmy 01-05-2011 17:30

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Why would they? Only reason for an IP change is that you're blacklisted somewhere.. Not VM's problem..

Nicosia 01-05-2011 17:40

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
no it has nothing to do with being blacklisted any where, the house i stay in is being used by a college who pay me £1000 a day to have their students stay here, at one point they where using my connection until the college installed their own so i would like to change the ip... i am guessing when i upgrade to 30/50mbit that will happen any way but i am not sure when i will.. also just to add if i was blacklisted all i would do is use the second internet connection the college installed that i have access to and could easily just use that and it uses a bt line that they installed 4 phone lines.. but i am good and follow rules in any forum/irc chan or anything i use online.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35226642)
I presume the standard hub? like this:

http://shop.virginmedia.com/content/...uters-page.png

if so, its still the same, it is a router and modem combined, so the modem will register the mac address of the router, which you cant change.

If you have a desperate security issue and you need your IP changing, im sure you will probably be able to get tech support to do it, as long as you get through to someone who knows what their talking about.

What is the security reason?

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why will they not change it?

yes that looks very similar to the one vm gave me

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i do have access to a modem (vm gave me but never took back) i can change it just so i can change ip.. but once i change back to the hub the ip will change back wont it?

Nopanic 01-05-2011 17:53

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
There is no functionality to change IPs for customers. If you have a hub, the old modem should have been disconnected.

I don't see the need to change IP's? what is it you think they did ?

Nicosia 01-05-2011 18:03

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
i dont know but i dont trust them and one of them was hacking into the colleges computers and i want to be safe....

but if i cant change it then i am sure the upgrade to 30/50mbit will do that, so i will just wait until then :)

thanks every one for your replies

craigj2k12 01-05-2011 18:22

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicosia (Post 35226688)
i dont know but i dont trust them and one of them was hacking into the colleges computers and i want to be safe....

but if i cant change it then i am sure the upgrade to 30/50mbit will do that, so i will just wait until then :)

thanks every one for your replies

the upgrade to 30 or 50 will change your IP, as you will be moved onto the DOCSIS3 network and have a new superhub, and as for them hacking into the schools computers, why would you need to change your IP? its not like they have programmed your computer to do anything?

Nicosia 01-05-2011 18:36

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
i dont know but i dont want to risk them trying anything...

i guess i will just have to call vm quicker to come upgrade my connection so i change ip that way :)

pip08456 01-05-2011 18:37

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Stop being so paranoid!

Nopanic 01-05-2011 18:55

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35226714)
the upgrade to 30 or 50 will change your IP, as you will be moved onto the DOCSIS3 network and have a new superhub, and as for them hacking into the schools computers, why would you need to change your IP? its not like they have programmed your computer to do anything?

If they had programmed his PC, it would do it anyway :) regardless of an IP change.

Unless they are remoting into it, which could I guess be IP based.

TheDon 01-05-2011 19:22

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nopanic (Post 35226735)
If they had programmed his PC, it would do it anyway :) regardless of an IP change.

Unless they are remoting into it, which could I guess be IP based.

But if they're remoting into it then they've probably got it set up to register the ip with dyndns anyway so an IP change won't do any good then either ;)

Nopanic 01-05-2011 19:40

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35226743)
But if they're remoting into it then they've probably got it set up to register the ip with dyndns anyway so an IP change won't do any good then either ;)

In fact I think the FBI and CIA have issued a warning that someone from a VM IP is tampering, remotely with some high level equipment ..

craigj2k12 01-05-2011 19:46

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nopanic (Post 35226758)
In fact I think the FBI and CIA have issued a warning that someone from a VM IP is tampering, remotely with some high level equipment ..

oh god, dont start a mass panic! if they are remoting to the computer, disable remote desktop connections, and make sure there is no VNC software installed

Nopanic 01-05-2011 19:47

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35226768)
oh god, dont start a mass panic! if they are remoting to the computer, disable remote desktop connections, and make sure there is no VNC software installed

:jk:

craigj2k12 01-05-2011 19:58

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nopanic (Post 35226770)
:jk:

:p:

merlin-is-magic 02-05-2011 14:10

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nopanic (Post 35226677)
There is no functionality to change IPs for customers. If you have a hub, the old modem should have been disconnected.

I don't see the need to change IP's? what is it you think they did ?


When I used to play halo 3 I would get hit offline (ddos) and being able to change my ip was the only way to be able to stop it. if I couldent change my ip people would be able to hold me offline for aslong as they want.
If i couldn't change my ip I would have to change isp, im hoping that vm will start giving out modems out again.

Nopanic 02-05-2011 14:31

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
soon as you logged back in with a new IP they would get you again ..

merlin-is-magic 02-05-2011 14:38

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nopanic (Post 35227385)
soon as you logged back in with a new IP they would get you again ..

yes, If they knew your new ip but unless you are connecting to them they can't get your new ip

Kymmy 02-05-2011 16:15

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Just turn off uPNP, the router will act just as good as any firewall..

Chrysalis 02-05-2011 16:58

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35226631)
you cant change it on the superhub, as its a modem and router combined, so the mac address wont change, but if you leave it turned off for about half an hour and turn it back on again you might get a new DHCP lease, but its unlikely

needs to be a lot longer then that probably at least 72 hours.

Nopanic 02-05-2011 18:05

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by merlin-is-magic (Post 35227391)
yes, If they knew your new ip but unless you are connecting to them they can't get your new ip

Could they not just search your username again ?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35227507)
needs to be a lot longer then that probably at least 72 hours.

Worth looking at the lease time and trying around the time it expires ? leave it off for 24 hours from then ?

Toto 02-05-2011 18:25

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Your Hub is provided with a 7 day IP lease, you will not likely get a new lease unless your area has a large number of IP addresses allocated to other uses, where it is more likely that a lower volume of available addresses could mean that your current IP address is assigned to a different device at the end of said lease.

If you had a standard 50Mb modem, not a Hub or Superhub, changing the MAC address of the ethernet device the modem is connected to will result in a new IP address as these are paired together, I believe there is a limit of 4 IP addresses maximum per 24 hour per modem

If you are on a local network with a low ratio of devices compared to a high number of available IP addresses, then it is likely you will keep the same address.

To get a new IP address your Hub will need to be removed from the local CMTS which should result in your current address lease expiring, and then placed back onto the network.

1st line technical support cannot do this, it has to be done by 2nd/3rd line agents who have access to the CMTS and can remove your device. The other option is to have your connection suspended for a minimum of 24 hours. This should result in your device being taken off the network, and assuming that the IP address is assigned to another user, you may then get a new address when your modem is unlocked and placed back onto the CMTS.

In short, your chances of getting a new address are pretty slim at this stage.

Nopanic 02-05-2011 18:39

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toto (Post 35227576)
Your Hub is provided with a 7 day IP lease, you will not likely get a new lease unless your area has a large number of IP addresses allocated to other uses, where it is more likely that a lower volume of available addresses could mean that your current IP address is assigned to a different device at the end of said lease.

If you had a standard 50Mb modem, not a Hub or Superhub, changing the MAC address of the ethernet device the modem is connected to will result in a new IP address as these are paired together, I believe there is a limit of 4 IP addresses maximum per 24 hour per modem

If you are on a local network with a low ratio of devices compared to a high number of available IP addresses, then it is likely you will keep the same address.

To get a new IP address your Hub will need to be removed from the local CMTS which should result in your current address lease expiring, and then placed back onto the network.

1st line technical support cannot do this, it has to be done by 2nd/3rd line agents who have access to the CMTS and can remove your device. The other option is to have your connection suspended for a minimum of 24 hours. This should result in your device being taken off the network, and assuming that the IP address is assigned to another user, you may then get a new address when your modem is unlocked and placed back onto the CMTS.

In short, your chances of getting a new address are pretty slim at this stage.

7 day lease ? you sure ?

The rest is spot on .. 2nd line can delete you, but as it messes with the CMTS stats its not something they are likely to do.

Chrysalis 02-05-2011 18:48

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nopanic (Post 35227558)
Could they not just search your username again ?

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Worth looking at the lease time and trying around the time it expires ? leave it off for 24 hours from then ?

yeah, it seems I think VM use 1 week lease's.

Remaining Lease Time
5 days 15:50:45

thats what ddwrt is showing me for current WAN ip. So is luck but in worst case would need to be a week, or use it for week but turn of when due to expire.

Peter_ 02-05-2011 19:56

Re: is it possible to change my ip?
 
Off course you may go through the leaving the modem off for 24 hours and when you switch your modem back on it is seen by the Virginmedia DHCP server which still has your original ip still unallocated so it might just reallocate it to your MAC address again.


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