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denphone 24-04-2011 15:04

What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
l would like several things included in the next tivo update and these include the ability to set reminders, ltv player. Sky Sports red button, BBC interactive features and more apps just to name a few.

ahardie 24-04-2011 15:12

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35220926)
l would like several things included in the next tivo update and these include the ability to set reminders, ltv player. Sky Sports red button, BBC interactive features and more apps just to name a few.

I still haven't got a tivo, it's coming soon :D.

What I would like to see them develop and add is more apps. I rarely, if ever use reminders on the V+ but it is obviously a popular feature. I would also like the ethernet port enabled but I dont think that is coming soon.

Toto 24-04-2011 15:15

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Well, when a few more customers actually get their hands on this brilliant service, then this thread may grow some more. :)

duklaprague 24-04-2011 15:43

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To sort out the rest of the UI...

I'd read about some parts not being the shiny HD interface, but had thought that it was just things like the apps section.

Very disappointing that the recordings section is the old SD interface, given that its such a large part of the whole PVR thing.

muppetman11 24-04-2011 15:50

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Not got one but what about the remote record expanding to smartphone apps on all major smartphones.

tucker61 24-04-2011 16:53

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One of the key things for me with TiVo was being able to view your recordings on different formats. Ie pc or iPod.

Until this function becomes available I don't think I will bother.

muppetman11 24-04-2011 16:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tucker61 (Post 35221012)
One of the key things for me with TiVo was being able to view your recordings on different formats. Ie pc or iPod.

Until this function becomes available I don't think I will bother.

That is coming with the ipad app , not sure on other things like iPhone , ipod , android etc.

Perfect Choice 24-04-2011 17:34

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I think the first priority is to get some of the V+ UI features into Tivo and sort out basic UI issues. Examples are:

Stop a recording you are watching when you press stop

Show viewed status of a recording like V+ e.g. recorded, viewed, partial viewed

Reminders (plenty of people want this)

A good proportion of Tivo users will be ex V+ users so get these fixed first!

TheDon 24-04-2011 18:13

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It should be easier to cancel a recording from the EPG as well.
ATM you have to go through several screens (some in SD) to cancel a recording when it was one button press on the V+

Doz007 24-04-2011 18:16

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I think a big thing for me is reverting back to SD menus. In 2011 on a flagship product this is unacceptable imo.

I'd also like to see the native iPad app sooner rather than later.

System wide padding for recordings & i'm not sure if this will be possible but a true dynamic EPG that has the ability to update in real time like the Sky guide would be fantastic. :)

Manster62 24-04-2011 18:18

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For me it would definitely be the BBC red button services as they were on V+.

Plus - picture quality - SD is much softer and it also seems worse on the i-player (both SD and HD) than it was on the V+ i-player.

Other than that - very happy with the Tivo so far! :cool:

DaBoz 24-04-2011 18:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35220926)
l would like several things included in the next tivo update and these include the ability to set reminders, ltv player. Sky Sports red button, BBC interactive features and more apps just to name a few.

For starters...
  1. parental control for apps (or disable/hide apps)
  2. consistent PIN parental control behaviour for live TV, recorded and on demand shows.
  3. mark recordings as unwatched, partial and watched as per V+
  4. Search music on demand
Plus stuff above like picture quality obviously, red button and iPad app.

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And Info button to work in mini guide.

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And indicate Series and Episode numbers in the My Shows list.

TheDon 24-04-2011 19:27

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Something else I'd like, is in the cast information for it to show the character they played as well.

howardmicks 24-04-2011 19:31

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Sugestions in hd when available is a must !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

passingbat 24-04-2011 19:41

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I'd like the recording options to remember the last used settings.

I pretty much always go in and change 'Keep At Most' to 'All episodes' and 'Keep until' to 'Until I Delete'

It doesn't take long to change them, but it would be a nice feature.

I currently usually don't set padding because of the way tivo handles it. So I'd like padding to be handled like the V+ does it, i.e., drop padding when two programmes on different channels are being recorded on the same tuner.

Then, a default optional padding would work and should be introduced.

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35221100)
Something else I'd like, is in the cast information for it to show the character they played as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35221102)
Sugestions in hd when available is a must !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thumbs up to both of those.

DaBoz 24-04-2011 19:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35221102)
Sugestions in hd when available is a must !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, I've noticed that you have to go out of your way to get HD content when searching for shows. Needs to always try and gather HD content with wish lists instead of settling for SD, Or make it configurable even better.

carlwaring 24-04-2011 19:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35221035)
Stop a recording you are watching when you press stop.

So you're recording and watching something on a delay and you press the "stop" button. How does it decide if you want to stop playback or the recording? :confused: No. To stop a recording, press the record button again. Far more logical. IMO, of course.

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Show viewed status of a recording like V+ e.g. recorded, viewed, partial viewed.
Personally, I hated that about the V+ :)

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35221052)
It should be easier to cancel a recording from the EPG as well. ATM you have to go through several screens (some in SD) to cancel a recording when it was one button press on the V+

Erm.. no you don't. Assuming you're in 'planned recordings' press "clear" on the recording you want to cancel and confirm.

Priorities for me would be, as already mentioned....
* All UI screens in HD
* Ability to disable PIN

passingbat 24-04-2011 20:23

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Just though of another feature I would find usefull --- the ability to sort 'My Planned Recordings' by date (as it is now) or Show Title. A coloured button choice to toggle between the two would be good.

Lew 24-04-2011 21:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221129)
So you're recording and watching something on a delay and you press the "stop" button. How does it decide if you want to stop playback or the recording? :confused: No. To stop a recording, press the record button again. Far more logical. IMO, of course.

I'm pretty sure when they say "recording" they mean "recorded programme", not "in-progress recording".

Perfect Choice 24-04-2011 21:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221129)
So you're recording and watching something on a delay and you press the "stop" button. How does it decide if you want to stop playback or the recording? :confused: No. To stop a recording, press the record button again. Far more logical. IMO, of course.


Personally, I hated that about the V+ :)


Was referring to a programme previously recorded that you watch later, stop should mean stop when watching!

Those V+ information details are essential for my house hold when we build up a high number of recorded programmes, so disagree I have to say.

howardmicks 24-04-2011 21:31

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Skyhd`s epg shows a different colour for programs that are in filmed in hd rather than sd versions upscalled,That would be nice for tivo to do the same

spiderplant 24-04-2011 21:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221129)
Personally, I hated that about the V+ :)

Why? :confused:

carlwaring 24-04-2011 22:12

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Because I already knew what I'd watched and what I hadn't. Seemed pointless to me. Just my opinion. Others are welcome to theirs :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35221196)
Was referring to a programme previously recorded that you watch later, stop should mean stop when watching!

Right. Okay. Well, pressing STOP does stop playback so where's the problem? :confused:

Quote:

Those V+ information details are essential for my house hold when we build up a high number of recorded programmes, so disagree I have to say.
Again, a fair point. I live on my own so don't have any such problems.

Perfect Choice 24-04-2011 22:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221218)
Because I already knew what I'd watched and what I hadn't. Seemed pointless to me. Just my opinion. Others are welcome to theirs :)


Right. Okay. Well, pressing STOP does stop playback so where's the problem? :confused:


Again, a fair point. I live on my own so don't have any such problems.

Pressing stop does not stop on mine, others have posted the same.

4 people in a house makes you realise why it is good to know the view status of a recording

HDFootyMan 24-04-2011 22:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221218)
Right. Okay. Well, pressing STOP does stop playback so where's the problem? :confused:

The problem is....no, it doesn't.

Oh, and filtering Wishlists to favourites channels is a must.

spiderplant 24-04-2011 22:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35221230)
The problem is....no, it doesn't.

It doesn't for me either, but I can't rule out that it works for some people. I've seen at least two posters say it does.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35221230)
Oh, and filtering Wishlists to favourites channels is a must.

As an option maybe, but their ability to find good things on "channels I'd never watch" are one of the main benefits of Wishlists for me.

HDFootyMan 24-04-2011 23:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35221237)
It doesn't for me either, but I can't rule out that it works for some people. I've seen at least two posters say it does.

Maybe some people are on a slightly different software then? So far, to stop watching a recording, I've had to press 'TV'. 'Stop' hasn't worked for me so far.

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35221237)
As an option maybe, but their ability to find good things on "channels I'd never watch" are one of the main benefits of Wishlists for me.

Same here, but I've read about people setting up Wishlists to find categories (say, Sci-Fi) and then getting results/recordings from kids channels, radio channels etc.

This is OK for TiVo Premiere since that has the option to remove unwanted/unwatched channels from the EPG, but VM TiVo doesn't have that option, due to contractual obligations with the broadcasters (or so I read over at TCF). Someone then suggested a workaround would be an option to filter Wishlist search results to favourite channels.

Here's the thread at TCF:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=464881

TheDon 24-04-2011 23:17

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221129)
Erm.. no you don't. Assuming you're in 'planned recordings' press "clear" on the recording you want to cancel and confirm.

Why would you assume I'm in planned recordings when I've stated from the EPG?

I obviously mean from the actual tv guide, not some random screen deep in the menu system that you've arbitrarily decided to place me in.

So yes, you do. From the tv guide you cannot cancel a recording without going through several screens which will kick you out to an SD screen, whereas on the V+ you could toggle it instantly. It's annoying.

carlwaring 24-04-2011 23:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35221246)
Why would you assume I'm in planned recordings when I've stated from the EPG?

Because, from there, it's two button presses which, IIRC, is the same as the V+; which is what you compared it to. :)

Quote:

I obviously mean from the actual tv guide, not some random screen deep in the menu system that you've arbitrarily decided to place me in.
Well, like I said, it was a relevant comparison as that is the quickest and easiest way to delete upcoming recording.

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So yes, you do. From the tv guide you cannot cancel a recording without going through several screens which will kick you out to an SD screen, whereas on the V+ you could toggle it instantly. It's annoying.
Actually, I agree with this. It would be useful. But then, if I wanted to delete an upcoming recording I wouldn't really use the EPG as using the "upcoming recordings" screen is both more obvious, easier and quicker.

TheDon 24-04-2011 23:50

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It's not a relevant comparison when to get to said screen you have to go through 2 or 3 others? You can't just pretend you're starting off on a screen that's already a few levels deep in the menus to make the comparison so as you can save a few button presses ;)

I'd also disagree with easier and quicker as well when the epg is 1 button press away (guide) whereas planned recordings is... lots of button presses away. Plus most the time I want to cancel a recording it's because I'm watching it so I'll be going to the channel anyway (or it's because I've accidentally hit the wrong thing!)

whoareyou 25-04-2011 08:21

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221129)

Personally, I hated that about the V+ :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35221196)
Those V+ information details are essential for my house hold when we build up a high number of recorded programmes, so disagree I have to say.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35221221)
4 people in a house makes you realise why it is good to know the view status of a recording

Exactly... I understand if you live on your own it may not be required. But as i live with someone we watch programmes at different times, it was very useful to know who had partly/finished watching a programme.
Again, as with 'other' features, why not include. Cant understand why you would "hate" it?

DaBoz 25-04-2011 09:18

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My 6 year old has over 25 spongebobs recorded, 15 clone wars and 10 scooby doos, and he has no idea which he's seen because he seems to randomly pick ones to play back. I couldnt say I hate not having this, as that would be a bit odd, but it would be very high on my TiVo feature wish list.

carlwaring 25-04-2011 09:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35221260)
It's not a relevant comparison when to get to said screen you have to go through 2 or 3 others?

Just like you do with the V+. That was the point :)
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I'd also disagree with easier and quicker as well when the epg is 1 button press away (guide) ....
Unless the recording you want to cancel is more than two hours away and not on the first half-dozen channels, of course!
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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35221260)
Plus most the time I want to cancel a recording it's because I'm watching it so I'll be going to the channel anyway (or it's because I've accidentally hit the wrong thing!)

To cancel a recording that you are currently watching in delay, just press the 'record' button and selected the correct option.
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Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35221330)
I couldnt say I hate not having this, as that would be a bit odd, but it would be very high on my TiVo feature wish list.

Okay. Maybe too strong a word :)

MickEP 25-04-2011 09:33

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I would like to see the Series & Episode number shown in the My Shows List, instead of having to go into each recording to find it

spiderplant 25-04-2011 10:17

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35221240)
Maybe some people are on a slightly different software then? So far, to stop watching a recording, I've had to press 'TV'. 'Stop' hasn't worked for me so far.

It seems Stop works if you are within 5 minutes of the end, but not earlier.

Meanwhile Pause-Stop is a workaround.

carlwaring 25-04-2011 11:01

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Erm... no. Well, not here at least. "Stop" does exactly that. I really can't see it being any different some units and not others. It's not exactly ambiguous, is it!

jobbie8 25-04-2011 12:12

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When watching a recorded show, I press the stop button, this action takes me to the "resume playing" page, but the recording still plays in the top corner. I have to press "tv" to stop it.
I've had tivo a week.

Stuart 25-04-2011 12:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221256)
Because, from there, it's two button presses which, IIRC, is the same as the V+; which is what you compared it to. :)

You *can* do it that way on the v+. You can *also* cancel recordings using one click on the guide. It's a toggle, so you can cancel or set a recording with a single click of the record button, which is what I think "TheDon" is referring to.

spiderplant 25-04-2011 12:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221403)
Erm... no. Well, not here at least. "Stop" does exactly that. I really can't see it being any different some units and not others. It's not exactly ambiguous, is it!

I've done a little more digging and it really does only affect some boxes.

denphone 25-04-2011 12:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MickEP (Post 35221340)
I would like to see the Series & Episode number shown in the My Shows List, instead of having to go into each recording to find it

Thats a fine idea.

HDFootyMan 25-04-2011 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 35221455)
When watching a recorded show, I press the stop button, this action takes me to the "resume playing" page, but the recording still plays in the top corner. I have to press "tv" to stop it.
I've had tivo a week.

Yep, that's exactly what mine does.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35221368)
It seems Stop works if you are within 5 minutes of the end, but not earlier.

Meanwhile Pause-Stop is a workaround.

Cheers. :)

TheDon 25-04-2011 14:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35221456)
You *can* do it that way on the v+. You can *also* cancel recordings using one click on the guide. It's a toggle, so you can cancel or set a recording with a single click of the record button, which is what I think "TheDon" is referring to.

Exactly.

Useless trying to explain that to Carl though, the Tivo minister of information refuses to believe that it's not the perfect ultimate solution to everything and has to resort to comparing doing things the convoluted way on V+ to try to show that it's not an issue.

It's an STB, I really don't get why people seem to defend it so personally when people point out improvements that can be made which were already on V+.

denphone 25-04-2011 14:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35221588)
Exactly.

Useless trying to explain that to Carl though, the Tivo minister of information refuses to believe that it's not the perfect ultimate solution to everything and has to resort to comparing doing things the convoluted way on V+ to try to show that it's not an issue.

It's an STB, I really don't get why people seem to defend it so personally when people point out improvements that can be made which were already on V+.

We all know Carl has a very strong opinion.

Stuart 25-04-2011 14:32

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I have to admit, I don't currently have the VM Tivo, but based on what I have read here, tivo is far superior to the current V+, but there are a couple of features I'd like to see implemented. Reminders, and the ability to archive stuff in the background. This last is particularly important IMO, as it can take several hours to archive even a few programmes, and in a lot of homes, it's likely to cause arguments if you effectively take the cable box out of action for several hours, unless you archive over night (and pay extra if you do as I do and unplug the whole lot over night).

denphone 25-04-2011 14:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35221608)
I have to admit, I don't currently have the VM Tivo, but based on what I have read here, tivo is far superior to the current V+, but there are a couple of features I'd like to see implemented. Reminders, and the ability to archive stuff in the background. This last is particularly important IMO, as it can take several hours to archive even a few programmes, and in a lot of homes, it's likely to cause arguments if you effectively take the cable box out of action for several hours, unless you archive over night (and pay extra if you do as I do and unplug the whole lot over night).

Theres no doubt about its superiorness in a lot of areas but l think they could add many more features from the old v plus and other boxes.

carlwaring 25-04-2011 14:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 35221455)
When watching a recorded show, I press the stop button, this action takes me to the "resume playing" page, but the recording still plays in the top corner. I have to press "tv" to stop it.
I've had tivo a week.

Ahh. I have the preview window switched off. That explains it :)

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35221588)
Exactly.

Useless trying to explain that to Carl though...

Erm... No. I got it :rolleyes: And yes, it might be useful but, as I said, not if the programme you want to cancel either starts in more than two hours or is not on the first half-dozen channels. Then it's more key presses to get to it in the EPG.

I much prefer pressing "2" from the HOME screen and deleting it from the "upcoming recordings" page.

jpa 25-04-2011 15:55

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The number one item i would like Tivo to have in the next update is the ability to have a REMINDER. I didnt realise how much i used it until i got the Tivo.
The other thing that bugs me is the lack of choice to record the programme in HD instead of the SD version.
Forgot there are two other things , Need to have the Red button functionality on sky sports and not having to go to the Iplayer app to playback BBC programmes ( contractual problem i think)

carlwaring 25-04-2011 15:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jpa (Post 35221715)
The number one item i would like Tivo to have in the next update is the ability to have a REMINDER. I didnt realise how much i used it until i got the Tivo.

So how much did you use it; and for what? You must watch a lot of live sport I assume?

denphone 25-04-2011 15:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jpa (Post 35221715)
The number one item i would like Tivo to have in the next update is the ability to have a REMINDER. I didnt realise how much i used it until i got the Tivo.
The other thing that bugs me is the lack of choice to record the programme in HD instead of the SD version.
Forgot there are two other things , Need to have the Red button functionality on sky sports and not having to go to the Iplayer app to playback BBC programmes ( contractual problem i think)

The reminders is one thing l miss a lot.

devilincarnate 25-04-2011 16:02

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35221733)
The reminders is one thing l miss a lot.

Post it notes:p:

passingbat 25-04-2011 16:13

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35221741)
Post it notes:p:

Big ones; in the middle of the TV screen! LOL

jpa 25-04-2011 16:16

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Yes carl i used to use it alot, as i am disabled i spend alot of time at home watching tv,especially sport.

passingbat 25-04-2011 16:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jpa (Post 35221715)
The other thing that bugs me is the lack of choice to record the programme in HD instead of the SD version.

Which programmes are you talking about?

If Suggestions or whishlists, then OK, although there is a workaround for whishlists.

EPG, or search TV shows are easy to select SD or HD

jpa 25-04-2011 16:24

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What i mean is when suggested programmes are recorded then they seem to be in SD not in HD. I have only had the Tivo for a few days so i dont know if has to settle down.

HDFootyMan 25-04-2011 16:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35221776)
Which programmes are you talking about?

If Suggestions or whishlists, then OK, although there is a workaround for whishlists.

EPG, or search TV shows are easy to select SD or HD

Wishlists seek out HD channels anyway when possible, certainly in my experience to date, this is legacy TiVo behaviour (according to a thread at TCF):
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...ight=wishlists

VirginMediaPhil 25-04-2011 16:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221129)
So you're recording and watching something on a delay and you press the "stop" button. How does it decide if you want to stop playback or the recording? :confused: No. To stop a recording, press the record button again. Far more logical. IMO, of course.

Sorry, but how the buck is that logical?

To stop watching a recording, press stop.
To stop recording a current recording, press record.

passingbat 25-04-2011 16:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jpa (Post 35221788)
What i mean is when suggested programmes are recorded then they seem to be in SD not in HD. I have only had the Tivo for a few days so i dont know if has to settle down.

I agree, there should be an option to have HD where possible in suggestions.

On the positive side, if it records a show you like and want to watch more, you can record the rest of the series in HD with a series link.

Mind you, the number of Suggestions it's recording for me, I think I may run out of space if they were recorded in HD! :D

denphone 25-04-2011 16:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35221806)
I agree, there should be an option to have HD where possible in suggestions.

On the positive side, if it records a show you like and want to watch more, you can record the rest of the series in HD with a series link.

Mind you, the number of Suggestions it's recording for me, I think I may run out of space if they were recorded in HD! :D

l think its important we keep a eye on our storage as you say it can quickly fill up.

Bob 25-04-2011 17:01

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
So say, being a bit of an idiot in the full Guide or Mini Guide, I accidentally set a programme to record, I can't simply press the record button again to stop it recording? Instead I have to go to another menu page?

Got a little bit lost with all the to-ing and fro-ing! ;)

Lew 25-04-2011 17:04

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35221804)
To stop recording a current recording, press record.

That's how it works on the V+ anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35221806)
Mind you, the number of Suggestions it's recording for me, I think I may run out of space if they were recorded in HD! :D

You won't. Suggestions will be automatically deleted if the TiVo needs space for one of your own recordings.

HDFootyMan 25-04-2011 17:10

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35221808)
l think its important we keep a eye on our storage as you say it can quickly fill up.

Suggestions always have a lower priority compared to other types of recordings. As such, they will automatically get deleted to make room for series link/manual/wishlist recordings.

denphone 25-04-2011 17:11

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35221837)
Suggestions always have a lower priority compared to other types of recordings. As such, they will automatically get deleted to make room for series link/manual/wishlist recordings.

Thank you.

passingbat 25-04-2011 17:17

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35221830)
That's how it works on the V+ anyway.



You won't. Suggestions will be automatically deleted if the TiVo needs space for one of your own recordings.



True, but it will delete shows earlier if they're iin HD. Wasn't really being serious anyway :D

carlwaring 25-04-2011 17:27

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35221804)
Sorry, but how the buck is that logical?

To stop watching a recording, press stop.
To stop recording a current recording, press record.

Yes. That was my point :) I was unsure whether the poster I was replying to was meaning a programme currently recording or watching something previously recorded.

We sorted this out a couple of pages back ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 35221824)
So say, being a bit of an idiot in the full Guide or Mini Guide, I accidentally set a programme to record, I can't simply press the record button again to stop it recording? Instead I have to go to another menu page?

Yes.

Quote:

Got a little bit lost with all the to-ing and fro-ing! ;)
Not difficult ;)

Bob 25-04-2011 17:48

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221861)
Yes. That was my point :) I was unsure whether the poster I was replying to was meaning a programme currently recording or watching something previously recorded.

We sorted this out a couple of pages back ;)


Yes.


Not difficult ;)

Bizarre. Seems logical as that's the functionality I am used to on the V+. Hopefully this will get addressed.

Mind you nothing seems quite as erratic as what the V+ decides to do when you exit a recording. Sometimes it goes back to live TV sometimes it goes back to the recordings menu. There doesn't appear to be any pattern either.

I'm sure I'll find something else to moan about when TiVo gets installed this week ;)

TheDon 25-04-2011 19:08

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 35221824)
So say, being a bit of an idiot in the full Guide or Mini Guide, I accidentally set a programme to record, I can't simply press the record button again to stop it recording? Instead I have to go to another menu page?

Got a little bit lost with all the to-ing and fro-ing! ;)

3 other menu pages at that, 2 of which are in SD.

It's a bit harder to set a recording accidentally though, as just pressing record won't set it to record, you have to press record then confirm it.

That's one of my pet hates with Tivo, there's subpages within the menu system for absolutely everything, it's like you have to confirm to confirm that you confirm things at times.

carlwaring 25-04-2011 19:22

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35221931)
3 other menu pages at that, 2 of which are in SD.

And how many on the V+? About the same, IIRC.

Also, there is a shortcut - HOME + 2 - that takes you straight to the "upcoming recordings" page ;)

Quote:

... it's like you have to confirm to confirm that you confirm things at times.
Nothing like a bit of over-exaggeration :rolleyes:

TheDon 25-04-2011 19:38

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221944)
And how many on the V+? About the same, IIRC.

Also, there is a shortcut - HOME + 2 - that takes you straight to the "upcoming recordings" page ;)


Nothing like a bit of over-exaggeration :rolleyes:

Zero different screens, and 2 button presses.
The question specifically was about from the TV guide, which on the V+ is 2 button presses (record then ok to confirm you want to cancel it) on Tivo it involves navigating away from the guide into an SD menu.

On the V+ you press record, it sets it to record, you press record again, it asks if you want to cancel it. That's how it should work, not press record and get a window where you have to go into an SD options screen, then from there go cancel recording which then takes you to another submenu asking you to confirm it. It's unnecessarily convoluted.

No matter how many times you repeat yourself it doesn't change the fact you're not comparing apples to apples. We're specifically on about canceling a record from within the tv guide, and you seem to think navigating away from the tv guide to a completely different menu is an ok alternative.

carlwaring 25-04-2011 20:19

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35221958)
Zero different screens, and 2 button presses.

Really? You sure?

Quote:

The question specifically was about from the TV guide, which on the V+ is 2 button presses (record then ok to confirm you want to cancel it) on Tivo it involves navigating away from the guide into an SD menu.
Well I can achieve the same thing with two button presses on my Tivo remote....

Home then 2 to get to "upcoming recordings" then find programme, "cancel" and confirm.

So not that different, really. :)

Quote:

On the V+ you press record, it sets it to record, you press record again, it asks if you want to cancel it.
Unless you want to set up a series link. Then it's more button presses. But don't mention that because it makes sound just like Tivo :rolleyes:

I will admit that, on one-off recordings, the ability to cancel through the EPG is not a bad idea.

Quote:

That's how it should work, not press record and get a window where you have to go into an SD options screen, then from there go cancel recording which then takes you to another submenu asking you to confirm it. It's unnecessarily convoluted.
No it's really not. It just sounds like it.

Quote:

No matter how many times you repeat yourself it doesn't change the fact you're not comparing apples to apples. We're specifically on about canceling a record from within the tv guide, and you seem to think navigating away from the tv guide to a completely different menu is an ok alternative.
Well it is.

multiskilled 25-04-2011 20:38

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
This thread is like watching an episode of " The big bang theory".

Guess which character Carl is? :D

TheDon 25-04-2011 20:45

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221980)
Well I can achieve the same thing with two button presses on my Tivo remote....

Home then 2 to get to "upcoming recordings" then find programme, "cancel" and confirm.

So not that different, really. :)

...you've used your two button presses just getting to "upcoming recordings"...

It's like one of iphone adverts that show something being done stupidly quickly, with "steps removed to make sequence shorter" stuck at the bottom of the screen ;)

Bob 25-04-2011 20:56

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35221931)
It's a bit harder to set a recording accidentally though, as just pressing record won't set it to record, you have to press record then confirm it.

It's one of those things that will annoy you most of the time, but when you accidentally press it, will wonder why the V+ didn't do it.

But yeah, I was mainly querying whether or not it was as simple as the V+ to cancel...obviously not.

I have seen there are quite a number of shortcuts, but no matter how many times I tell myself they are there I will never use them. Much like the current VM software. I know you can press the corresponding number but I never do. And I suspect most people will be the same.

IMO, the core functionality should be no more than one or two presses away.

TiVO is sounding a bit like the Symbian operating system on Nokias in some respects. It could do an awful lot but the options were sometimes buried. However, the TiVO software actually looks the part whereas Symbian never does ;)

whoareyou 25-04-2011 21:17

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Using both the V+ and Tivo regulary now, the Tivo is much more of a pain and fiddle to use. But then again it is offering a lot more.
I can only imagine when the novelty has worn off it will become even more of a pain to set recordings, flick through menus, etc. Its certainly not built for speed!

muppetman11 25-04-2011 21:22

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whoareyou (Post 35222016)
Using both the V+ and Tivo regulary now, the Tivo is much more of a pain and fiddle to use. But then again it is offering a lot more.
I can only imagine when the novelty has worn off it will become even more of a pain to set recordings, flick through menus, etc. Its certainly not built for speed!

Wash your mouth out , you can't call TIVO on this forum , people have been banned for less LOL :D

mersey70 25-04-2011 21:31

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by multiskilled (Post 35221996)
This thread is like watching an episode of " The big bang theory".

Guess which character Carl is? :D

Indeed it is,

To me it all sounds a little complicated and a bit like using an advanced smartphone than a bloody STB!

ahardie 25-04-2011 22:06

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35222020)
Indeed it is,

To me it all sounds a little complicated and a bit like using an advanced smartphone than a bloody STB!

I own a smartphone and love it. I wouldn't go back to a basic phone having used it. Most people are familiar with technology these days and aren't scared of it.

lawe 25-04-2011 22:11

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35222049)
I own a smartphone and love it. I wouldn't go back to a basic phone having used it. Most people are familiar with technology these days and aren't scared of it.

+1.
I'd be lost without my Desire HD... thank god it has sat nav :D

But a dedicated app for Tivo control rather than a web link would be better.

mersey70 25-04-2011 22:19

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35222049)
I own a smartphone and love it. I wouldn't go back to a basic phone having used it. Most people are familiar with technology these days and aren't scared of it.

I do too but they are usually a bit more complicated to use than a STB but with Tivo (to me at least) that dosen't seem to be the case.

For me using a STB has always been a somewhat sedentary experience but that's just me.

carlwaring 25-04-2011 22:39

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by multiskilled (Post 35221996)
This thread is like watching an episode of " The big bang theory".
Guess which character Carl is? :D

Anyone says Sheldon they're dead to me :p:
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35221999)
...you've used your two button presses just getting to "upcoming recordings"...

And how many to get to the same screen on V+? The same or more? (It's certainly not less!)#
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 35222006)
But yeah, I was mainly querying whether or not it was as simple as the V+ to cancel...obviously not.

It is is simple, unless the programme just happens to be on the first screen of the EPG when you bring it up!

TheDon 25-04-2011 22:53

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35222098)
And how many to get to the same screen on V+? The same or more? (It's certainly not less!)#

:banghead:

You're already on the screen, that's the entire point.

For a quick recap:

Quote:

The question specifically was about from the TV guide, which on the V+ is 2 button presses (record then ok to confirm you want to cancel it) on Tivo it involves navigating away from the guide into an SD menu.
To which you said:

Quote:

Well I can achieve the same thing with two button presses on my Tivo remote....
And then went on to list going through multiple menus before getting to your "two button presses".

I seriously can't believe how even though you've even said it would be good to be able to do it from the tv guide the same as the V+, you are still going on about how it's not really that much more complicated on Tivo because you can do it from a completely different part of the interface.

multiskilled 25-04-2011 23:20

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35222121)
:banghead:

I seriously can't believe how even though you've even said it would be good to be able to do it from the tv guide the same as the V+, you are still going on about how it's not really that much more complicated on Tivo because you can do it from a completely different part of the interface.

Have you ever seen Sheldon on "The big bang theory" Your wrong he's right. :D

pythagoras 25-04-2011 23:32

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35222098)
Anyone says Sheldon they're dead to me :p:

Sheldons Mum? Bazinga!

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/04/17.jpg
:rofl:

carlwaring 26-04-2011 00:20

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35222121)
I seriously can't believe how even though you've even said it would be good to be able to do it from the tv guide the same as the V+, you are still going on about how it's not really that much more complicated on Tivo because you can do it from a completely different part of the interface.

That argument is perfectly logical. Just because it is done in a different way does not make one way "right" and the other way "wrong". It's just "different" :confused::rolleyes:

TheDon 26-04-2011 00:37

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35222215)
That argument is perfectly logical. Just because it is done in a different way does not make one way "right" and the other way "wrong". It's just "different" :confused::rolleyes:

How about the fact you can do it both ways on V+?
If both ways are "right" then surely that means V+ is twice as right as Tivo? ;)

denphone 26-04-2011 04:56

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by multiskilled (Post 35221996)
This thread is like watching an episode of " The big bang theory".

Guess which character Carl is? :D

He. s a legendary character called Eddie.

---------- Post added at 04:56 ---------- Previous post was at 04:53 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoareyou (Post 35222016)
Using both the V+ and Tivo regulary now, the Tivo is much more of a pain and fiddle to use. But then again it is offering a lot more.
I can only imagine when the novelty has worn off it will become even more of a pain to set recordings, flick through menus, etc. Its certainly not built for speed!

l find it fast and smooth like driving a Ferrari you could say.

Bob 26-04-2011 10:12

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35222098)
It is is simple, unless the programme just happens to be on the first screen of the EPG when you bring it up!

Given my amazing knack of pressing record on the wrong programme it is useful for it be that simple to cancel. However, more often than not it was the V+'s fault for not reacting quick enough. But as the TiVO asks for confirmation, that'll help.

the_pidgeon 26-04-2011 11:31

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
I'm a billy no mates who lives alone so can we;

TURN OFF THE PIN PLEASE!!!!!

also I stangly miss the interactive bits, like BBC News.

JayAy 27-04-2011 14:02

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Logical and consistent application of the PIN code system. It may be operating this already, but when the weather forecast at 13:30 on BBC One is deemed adult material I struggle to understand the logic employed. It would really help if a brief explanation of why a particular channel/programme is falling foul of the Pin Code Police where displayed so that it's behaviour could be seen to have some logic behind it.

denphone 27-04-2011 15:17

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayAy (Post 35223468)
Logical and consistent application of the PIN code system. It may be operating this already, but when the weather forecast at 13:30 on BBC One is deemed adult material I struggle to understand the logic employed. It would really help if a brief explanation of why a particular channel/programme is falling foul of the Pin Code Police where displayed so that it's behaviour could be seen to have some logic behind it.

There,s no logic in that at all.

spiderplant 27-04-2011 15:22

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayAy (Post 35223468)
Logical and consistent application of the PIN code system. It may be operating this already, but when the weather forecast at 13:30 on BBC One is deemed adult material I struggle to understand the logic employed. It would really help if a brief explanation of why a particular channel/programme is falling foul of the Pin Code Police where displayed so that it's behaviour could be seen to have some logic behind it.

If that's on your newly-installed box, it's because the EPG data wasn't complete. Give it a while to sort itself out.

Normally the PIN messages do tell you why a PIN is being requested.

JayAy 27-04-2011 20:07

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35223550)
If that's on your newly-installed box, it's because the EPG data wasn't complete. Give it a while to sort itself out.

Normally the PIN messages do tell you why a PIN is being requested.

Thanks spiderplant. Tivo was installed this morning, so had had a couple of chances to update epg content - every couple of hours I think. Anyway, tried the trusted reboot approach and BBC one HD is now behaving itself without any adult content warnings.

pythagoras 27-04-2011 20:29

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayAy (Post 35223843)
Thanks spiderplant. Tivo was installed this morning, so had had a couple of chances to update epg content - every couple of hours I think. Anyway, tried the trusted reboot approach and BBC one HD is now behaving itself without any adult content warnings.

The pin code software uses a "better safe than sorry approach", If it cant determine a rating for the program, and this can happen if the epg data hasnt fully completed, then it will ask for a pin code.

You wouldnt want minors to access an 18 film/programme just because someone missed the rating off the epg.

Regards

John.

HDFootyMan 27-04-2011 22:15

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
This perhaps has probably been asked already, but, any chance that artists/songs from the Music VOD catalogue can be part of the 'Search & Browse' search? Maybe have it as an additional 'blue button' option on that screen?

Would make finding musical videos a hell of a lot easier.

jb66 27-04-2011 22:23

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
I want a 4od app

Doz007 27-04-2011 22:26

Re: What we would like in the next Tivo update.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35224016)
This perhaps has probably been asked already, but, any chance that artists/songs from the Music VOD catalogue can be part of the 'Search & Browse' search? Maybe have it as an additional 'blue button' option on that screen?

Would make finding musical videos a hell of a lot easier.

Music on demand results are already included in the search results on the TV guide from VMs site so I assume they will be integrated into the TiVo search results soon. :)


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