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mertle 18-04-2011 15:08
Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/new...save_your_job/

Tells them get on theyre bike if they want to keep theyre job you will get £200 a month a bowl of rice and laundry help.

Absolute disgraceful shows Private sector for what it is at times capitalist grunters.

Glad I dont have this stupid company mobile would ditch them for theyre disgraceful atitude towards its staff.

All these companies interested in excesive profits to pay shareholders and bosses stupid wages/golden handshakes. While shafting british workers by paying criminal wages or moving to some god forbidden country to pay slave labour wages.

There possible many companies who run theyre companies honestly and dont rippoff its staff, customers and still able to pay shareholders. Sadly those like orange give private sector a bad name.

I will no doubt get critised say its theyre decision companies need to make profits etc. Its about time we had government who got bit bottle to sort these bad companies out.

Hugh 18-04-2011 15:12
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
From the Telegraph
Quote:
A small number of staff are said to have accepted severance packages, while many have taken alternative roles at the company's office in Darlington. Others have been placed on "special leave", receiving basic pay while they considering moving to Manila.

An Everything Everywhere spokesman said: “All our consumer nightshift team, around 40 strong based in Darlington, have been offered alternative roles in the UK and almost all have of them now chosen one of these roles, or taken the severance package they were offered. We are continuing discussions with a very small number of employees who have expressed an interest in the option of transferring to Manila, but they still have an option of a UK role or severance package if they prefer."

martyh 18-04-2011 17:02
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35215906)
From the Telegraph
Always a good idea to check a story from different sources ,The Northern Echo will try to sensationalise a burnt burger at burger king :D

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35215899)
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/new...save_your_job/

Tells them get on theyre bike if they want to keep theyre job you will get £200 a month a bowl of rice and laundry help.

Absolute disgraceful shows Private sector for what it is at times capitalist grunters.

Glad I dont have this stupid company mobile would ditch them for theyre disgraceful atitude towards its staff.

All these companies interested in excesive profits to pay shareholders and bosses stupid wages/golden handshakes. While shafting british workers by paying criminal wages or moving to some god forbidden country to pay slave labour wages.

There possible many companies who run theyre companies honestly and dont rippoff its staff, customers and still able to pay shareholders. Sadly those like orange give private sector a bad name.

I will no doubt get critised say its theyre decision companies need to make profits etc. Its about time we had government who got bit bottle to sort these bad companies out.
Are you going to print the retraction or will we wait and see if the Echo does it first ;)

Damien 18-04-2011 18:44
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Is it me or is the print media getting even more dishonest that before?

martyh 18-04-2011 18:57
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35216114)
Is it me or is the print media getting even more dishonest that before?
It's not you :)

I personally haven't bothered with newspapers for years .

danielf 18-04-2011 19:07
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Blimey. This is so bad, the phrase 'you couldn't make it up' comes to mind. Then again, some people can apparently...

Osem 18-04-2011 20:39
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Mertle, I take it you only ever buy British just so you can play your full role in keeping UK PLC afloat and paying those wages you seem to think UK workers are divinely entitled to. You're right about companies needing to make profits BTW, it's the profits these companies make and the taxes they (and their workers) contribute to the exchequer which pay for minor things like the NHS.......

martyh 18-04-2011 20:53
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35216245)
Mertle, I take it you only ever buy British just so you can play your full role in keeping UK PLC afloat and paying those wages you seem to think UK workers are divinely entitled to. You're right about companies needing to make profits BTW, it's the profits these companies make and the taxes they (and their workers) contribute to the exchequer which pay for minor things like the NHS.......
What !!! companies making a profit ...a actual profit ..damn cheek if you ask me

Hugh 18-04-2011 20:57
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35216265)
What !!! companies making a profit ...a actual profit ..damn cheek if you ask me
Damn piggy capitalists!

Why can't the state own everything, and then pay the wages out of the taxes collected from the employees*, then everything could be free?


(*of course, payroll tax would have to be 100%, and there would be no money left over for goods and materials or running costs, but that would be OK, because we could make everything in this country, and would never need to import anything that we might need to pay for**).

(**I think there might be a flaw in this utopian vision, but what the hell , let's go for it - if it doesn't work, we can let future generations sort it out......)

martyh 18-04-2011 21:01
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35216269)
Damn piggy capitalists!

Why can't the state own everything, and then pay the wages out of the taxes collected from the employees*, then everything could be free?


(*of course, payroll tax would have to be 100%, and there would be no money left over for goods and materials or running costs, but that would be OK, because we could make everything in this country, and would never need to import anything that we might need to pay for**).

(**I think there might be a flaw in this utopian vision, but what the hell , let's go for it - if it doesn't work, we can let future generations sort it out......)

didn't the ruskies try that for while and then gave up when MCdonalds moved in and showed them the error of their ways :D

Osem 18-04-2011 21:03
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35216265)
What !!! companies making a profit ...a actual profit ..damn cheek if you ask me
Yes, and what about those pesky shareholders FGS? You know the ones who stump up the money companies need to run their businesses. How dare they ask for dividends in return for their money and the risk!!!! Then there are all those pension funds who use the dividend payments they receive to pay their scheme members. You know, the millions of ordinary people out there who've made some provision for their old age rather than rely on the state's offerings. How dare they do that!.....

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35216269)
Damn piggy capitalists!

Why can't the state own everything, and then pay the wages out of the taxes collected from the employees*, then everything could be free?


(*of course, payroll tax would have to be 100%, and there would be no money left over for goods and materials or running costs, but that would be OK, because we could make everything in this country, and would never need to import anything that we might need to pay for**).

(**I think there might be a flaw in this utopian vision, but what the hell , let's go for it - if it doesn't work, we can let future generations sort it out......)
:rofl:

martyh 18-04-2011 21:10
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35216279)
Yes, and what about those pesky shareholders FGS? You know the ones who stump up the money companies need to run their businesses. How dare they ask for dividends in return for their money and the risk!!!! Then there are all those pension funds who use the dividend payments they receive to pay their scheme members. You know, the millions of ordinary people out there who've made some provision for their old age rather than rely on the state's offerings. How dare they do that!.....
Damn straight ,in fact i will set the ball rolling by not earning any profit for my company from now on ,i will instead get my money from the magical money tree in fairy land ..just down the road from cloud cuckoo land

Osem 18-04-2011 21:12
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35216290)
Damn straight ,in fact i will set the ball rolling by not earning any profit for my company from now on ,i will instead get my money from the magical money tree in fairy land ..just down the road from cloud cuckoo land
:)

That's in the Labour run London Borough of Havenowpaynever isn't it?... :D

martyh 18-04-2011 21:18
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35216294)
:)

That's in the Labour run London Borough of Havenowpaynever isn't it?... :D
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

wish i'd thought of that :D

Pierre 18-04-2011 21:30
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35216269)
Damn piggy capitalists
indeed, what has the free Market economy ever done for us?

dave6x 18-04-2011 21:48
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35216269)
Damn piggy capitalists!
Cue for a song!!!

"Piggies - The Beatles"

Have you seen the little piggies
Crawling in the dirt
And for all the little piggies
Life is getting worse
Always having dirt to play around in.

Have you seen the bigger piggies
In their starched white shirts
You will find the bigger piggies
Stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts to play around in.

In their sties with all their backing
They don't care what goes on around
In their eyes there's something lacking
What they need's a damn good whacking.

Everywhere there's lots of piggies
Living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon.

Lord Nikon 18-04-2011 22:32
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
So, Orange cutting costs by shutting down an overnight callcenter to outsource it, and doing everything they can to make sure their employees keep jobs if they want them (Alternate jobs within the company, relocate to manilla) as well as offering them a severance package, and letting them keep all options open....

Seems a bit of a non-story to me really, unless the actual story is 'Orange goes the extra mile to keep profits coming in and staff happy & employed' is the actual story...

Hugh 19-04-2011 07:38
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Agenda, fit, wouldn't - please rearrange in suitable order....;)

Osem 19-04-2011 11:47
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35216457)
Agenda, fit, wouldn't - please rearrange in suitable order....;)
:rofl:

Ditto "head, nail, on, hit"....... :D

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dave6x (Post 35216347)
Cue for a song!!!

"Piggies - The Beatles"

Have you seen the little piggies
Crawling in the dirt
And for all the little piggies
Life is getting worse
Always having dirt to play around in.

Have you seen the bigger piggies
In their starched white shirts
You will find the bigger piggies
Stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts to play around in.

In their sties with all their backing
They don't care what goes on around
In their eyes there's something lacking
What they need's a damn good whacking.

Everywhere there's lots of piggies
Living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon.
lol


ps Just a thought but perhaps a pessimist is just a former optimist who fell down one of the cracks in the ground whilst fixated by the stars.... :D

Ignitionnet 19-04-2011 11:52
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35215899)
Absolute disgraceful shows Private sector for what it is at times capitalist grunters.
Well it shows that newspaper for what it is - toilet paper that comes ready wiped on - in other words full of excrement.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35216606)
ps Just a thought but perhaps a pessimist is just a former optimist who fell down one of the cracks in the ground whilst fixated by the stars.... :D
Pessimist in the label the blindly optimistic give to realists :)

MartJ 21-04-2011 10:01
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
Apparently Orange have apologised to the 40 staff who were wrongly told that they need to move to Manila to keep their jobs

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-2269632.html

Russ 21-04-2011 11:26
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
I'm glad I'm not with Orange - Philippino callcentres are even more annoying than Indian ones. Amongst other things they have fake American accents and apparently in their culture everyone has a stupid nickname like 'baby' and 'princes' which they're allowed to use when talking to customers.

Chrysalis 21-04-2011 15:29
Re: Disgraceful ORANGE with it call centre tells staff to move to Manilla
 
laughing at the capitalist comments.

for what its worth I have brought shares in some companies (ok 2 companies) and returned any dividends I have been offered. I took the risk and my profit if it pays off is share growth, I think dividends are somewhat of a mickey take and wrongful use of turnover. I asked for the money to either be spent on jobs or given to charity instead.


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