The Harmony remote thread
 

Thought I would set up a Harmony remote thread as there seem to be a number of buttons that need to be learnt even if you select the Tivo as a Cisco CT8685.

So far I have to teach it:
Rewind
Forward
Zoom Video Window
Slow
Subtitles

All the other important commands are there in the database already.

Seeing as channel up and down now control page up and page down in menu screens the up and down arrow at the top is now ideal for thumbs up and thumbs down.

I also have added to sequences 1 for PIN and one that shows suggestion when viewing scheduled recordings which is a really handy short cut.

The sequence is:

Thumbs down
Thumbs down
Thumbs up
Back

Tomorrow I will look at how best to utilise these short cuts

Home+Home : My recordings (now playing)
Home+1 : Manage series links
Home+2 : Planned recordings (todo list)
Home+3 : Wishlists
Home+4 : Search all TV
Home+5 : Browse all TV

If anyone has found any other useful features please post.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Thanks for this. My TIVO is being installed tomorrow, and the only thing I'm not looking forward is resetting up my Harmony from V+ to a TIVO. The last time I tried to add TIVO, it said I had no DVR :(

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

There shouldn't be as I added them all some time ago :erm: :(

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I thought about setting these sequences up but there can potentially be a small snag.

I've had my TiVo for about a month and the home page sometimes takes a little longer to load up as the hard drive fills up. Therefore when the Harmony 'presses' the number in your sequence the command could be ignored by the box as it is still loading the home page.

I have the 555 model and I don't think I can delay the second button press during the set up but your model might be able to.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Did you inform Logitech of the missing commands directly?

I've got my TiVo due to be installed tomorrow, so I'm going to reprogram my Harmony One this evening. I was hoping it would be fairly straight forward without any 'learning; to be done.

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Yes I did.

So I don't know why they're not there :confused::td:

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I haven't set up an activity yet, but added it to my devices. The only one missing from your list is 'Zoom Video window'.

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I've just tried to set up the Harmony One for TiVo in preparation for my install tomorrow but it looks like I actually need the TiVo remote to hand to teach it all the codes!

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

As per post #6 above, you shouldn't really need to do that. :confused::mad:

I am going to investigate this with Logitech tomorrow. (Assuming I can make them understand the problem!)

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

You guys are right i seem to have missed them some how only the Zoom Video Window was needed. Also noticed tonight that the harmony software is telling me that there is a update for the Tivo not had a chance to install it yet.

Have also increased the interkey delay to 0 and changed the speed setting to one to see if I can get it to match the original remote a little better.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Hi,

Am getting TiVo on Thursday so thought I'd look at setting up my 885..
I've tried a few settings - how did you get Cisco CT8685 to be a PVR?
When I try it I get 'satellite'..

I do get a PVR for 'VirginMedia TiVo' - this picks up V+ as a similar device but at least I can go through the advanced setup and tell it that it's a TiVo.

Guess I'm spending Good Friday programming...

By the way also tried 'TiVo CT8685' this did work as a PVR but picks up a TCD-648 (whatever that is!)

Maybe try again when I actually have the remote but any tips? When I add device what type do I choose, what manufacturer & what model??

Thanks for your help,

Ian

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I don't think it matters what device you select it as, as it always comes up as 'satellite'. But it works. :)

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Ok thanks - maybe just being a bit anal but with a pvr you get the pause symbol on the watch tv icon and more importantly you can tell it that the pvr is a tivo so can get the thumbs up/down .. I'll play with it at the weekend and see which way works best.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I've just added Tivo to my harmony one remote using the Cisco 'satellite' box.

The only command i had to learn off the Tivo remote was 'TV'.

There isn't a 'HOME' button, but Menu does the same job.

Only just done it, so needs a thorough test, but so far, working perfectly.

I don't know if it puts icons for the thumbs, as I put those on the extra up/down hard buttons that the Harmony one has.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

TV is already mapped to the Exit button.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I couldn't see 'TV' listed in the Cisco drop down menu of commands; Did I miss it? I checked a couple of times.

I've actually made EXIT operate the clear function and added TV as an icon on the touch screen (I had it there for V+ operation so familiar in that position)

I was surprised how much the V+ based activity on my Harmony controlled TIVO; I could have just added a few commands and stuck with my Watch TV activity based on the V+

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Exit = TV

The one to learn is the Zoom video window, while they technically do the same thing one brings up a menu and the time bar while the other one just shows video.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Well here is a weird one. I have a Harmony 555, and everything works fine except the channel up and down, which seems to control the moment on the buffer bar by mistake.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Any ideas what to put it for a Harmony 1100 to make the Tivo work? I've tried adding a Cisco CT-8565, a VirginMedia Tivo and none of them come up in the database. I'd love to be able to avoid having to teach it the entire remote.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Was that a typo or what you actually tried? It's CT-8685 ;)

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How embarrassing. :D I must have had 8565 on the brain for some reason. I blame the heat.

Thank you for making me double-check what I was doing ... it's all set up perfectly now.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

You're right; I checked it when setting up my 885 for the bedroom. I've restored 'Exit' on the Harmony One to Exit to keep both remotes the same (still kept a 'TV' icon though) ;)

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Passingbat i have a 885 as well , but what make did you input? tivo,virginmedia or cisco? i have tried all 3 and put in ct-6865 but it doesnt work and only gives the commands PWR TOGGLE,TELETEXT AND V+!!!! any ideas?

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

That was a type, right? :)

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Yep :):):)

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Tried again using Tivo and model as ct-8685 and it worked!!!!!!! I must of done something wrong? I thought i had put in ct-8685!!! weird, but at least it works

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Good to hear!

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Got to set mine later or tomorrow dreading it.:D:D:D

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Of course I meant "typo". My irony-ometer just exploded :D

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Don't worry; using the Cisco CT8685, it's easy; If I recall, most buttons are what they should be by default.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Installed yesterday - it took me ages to work out that it wouldn't work with "Watch Television (Tivo)". Anyway, it's working now ....

So, is everyone setting the Tivo to turn on/off, or leave it on? I suspect leaving it on will be most reliable as there aren't separate power on/off codes (yet?)

Turning it off and on this morning, it seemed to maintain the buffer for the channel being watched, so I don't think it'll save on power or disk life, but does anyone know if turning it off makes a difference to receiver choice for example? Or does leaving it off for longer stop the buffering?

By the way - the installer told me that every single person he's installed for so far has had a S1 Tivo.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

At the moment putting it in standby makes no difference to the buffering. Power saving features will be added to the software later.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I'm assuming these will be optional? I love the fact that the TiVo constantly buffers, even whilst in standby.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I'm sure there will be options, but I don't know yet whether it will be possible to completely disable power-saving. VM have to comply with the EU regulations.

It's a complex area. See http://www.difgroup.eu/uploads/KeyTo...20nutshell.pdf and http://www.difgroup.eu/uploads/KeyTo...2006%2009_.pdf

Wow - seriously OT. Sorry.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Can someone give me the settings to set up the harmony one remote i am stumped everything i have tried is coming up not in database.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Have you added the device as a Cisco CT8685?

it comes up as a satellite box, but that's fine.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Can I just ask as I seem the only one, what is a Harmony Remote as I feel left out:confused::confused::confused:

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

And you can rename it as Virgin TiVo. :)

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_...remote&x=0&y=0

Its a range of programmable remote controls. You tell it what devices you have, and then what 'activities' you do, and it will control all those devices for that activity so you can put the old remotes in the drawer.

For instance, my 'TV Lounge Cable' activity allows me to control my Sammy TV, my Amp, and my TiVo box, all from one remote, instead of using 3.

Before I got one I had around 9 remote controls sitting on the desk in my lounge. Now I just use one. Once you get one, and programme it (which is quite easy), you'll wonder how you got on without one. :)

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

It's a universal remote that controls all your equipment with the one remote.

but it's very clever in that you create 'Activities'. With one push of a button, it will switch everything on at once and set them to the right input.

In my case, my 'Tivo' activity switches on my AV amp and selects the Cab/sat input and switches on the TV and selects the HDMI1 input. (I've told it I always leave Tivo switched on).

On the remote itself, you tell it that the volume controls the AV amp and the Channel controls the Tivo box.

You can add any Tivo, amp or TV command to the remote by adding them as touch buttons.

all this is done by connecting the Harmony remote to the computer via USB and changing options in the Harmony software that you install.

Best bit of kit I've ever bought!

Really usefull for the current PIN situation as you can add a 'sequence', so that one button push enters your PIN number.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Please can anyone help.

I have a harmony 1000 which worked perfectly with my V+.

I have updated to the latest firmware and setup the tivo as a cisco ct-8685

Nothing works.there is no play,stop fast fwd etc etc buttons showing howeve there is 2 rounds discs in the middle of the screen. the menu buttons are there but greyed out as is the coloured buttons.

any advice please.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Hi

I think it may because the CT8685 is set up as a satellite - I entered my TiVo as 'VirginMedia Tivo' not Cisco CT8685 and the software searched for 'device like' and came up with a V+ (so most of the buttons were OK)

I then went into the settings and changed it from a standard PVR to a TiVo and learned the extra remote buttons.

I could then use this device in a 'watch TV with TiVo' activity..

All seems to work well (but it would be better if it knew the CT8685 was a TiVo to start with!)

Hope this helps.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

The CT8685 is a Tivo it doesn't matter that it shows up as a satellite receiver it has all the functions needed.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

can't seem to get it to work :mad:

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Did you keep your original V+ avtivity?

If so, try adding the missing commands from the Tivo remote to that activity by learning from the the actual tivo remote.

I found the existing V+ activity controlled pretty much all of Tivo anyway.

Off hand, if I remember correctly, the Skip forward and back need adding and Thumbs up and thumbs down.

I think if you add those, you could run tivo with the V+ activity.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

just managed to get most things sorted.

However whatever i try the grey STOP button will not appear.All other buttons like play,pause,ffwd etc etc.

I have even tried learning the stop button from the original remote and calling it up manually but no joy Hmmmm

any advice gratefully received.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Hi all,

Got my TiVo yesteday and set about programmig my Harmony One with it - have to say so far extremely easy - so thanks for anyone who have provided Logitech with additional commands. One thing I woudl say is I upgraded to version 7.7.0 (I think) searched for CT 8685 and it registered as a PVR and allowed me to specifiy it as TiVo box - so I got thumbs etc. So far not had to "learn" anything new, I was going to chaneg "Info" to "My Shows" (i did similar on the V+) but realised two pushes of "Menu" does the same job.
Hope everyone else finds it as straightforward as I did :-)

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I have that version and it didn't do that when I programmed my new 600. Therefore I don't think two things are connected :)

Good to know, though. At least they seem to being acting on advice from their users.

Excellent. Means they finally incorporated my added commands :D

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Having forgot to map the 'clear' button to my Harmony One remote, I reverted to the original TiVo remote this morning to delete a folder from the my shows menu.

The original remote is so much faster when srcolling through the menu screens! Has anyone noticed this, or better still found a way to solve it?

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Yes and no; in that order :)

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

So is it just a case of putting up with the sluggish response from the Harmony or revert to the VM TiVo remote?

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Pretty much. Annoying, isn't it! :(

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

The Harmony will never be as fast as the original, it is also sluggish with my 360 but you can change some settings under trouble shooting to make it slightly better like remove the inter key press delay.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I'd put up with a sluggish Harmony rather than having to keep 5 different remotes on the table and try to pick up the correct one :)

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I have a 555 and think it's great. I was even tempted to get a higher spec Harmony purely because of the slow response on it but after reading the comments I'm disappointed that even that will not cure the problem.

Looks like I'll carry on pressing buttons slowly with my trusty 555 and thanks to all for saving me £100+ :)

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Don't get me wrong I have both a 525 and a One and love the One its build quality is excellent and the layout is very nice. I would love to replace the bedroom 525 with a One as well.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I had the 525 for years until it died on me a month or so ago.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Ok, after reading this thread and the fact that my TIVO remote keeps getting hogged by the kids and SWMBO I went and got a harmony 600 (on offer at Bestbuy at the moment for £39.99, which seemed a good price). Only problem is that i can not set it up for the TIVO at all!!! It wont recognise the CT8685 at all, just says it is not recognised, and does not recognise VM Tivo either? Anyone got any ideas what else to try???? PLEASE!!!!

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

When I tried it I didn't have a problem. Just checked and worked

This is what I did

In the harmony software - devices tab - add device
device - cable satellite box - cable box
manufacturer - Cisco
model - CT8685
click next
next again (confirm want to turn off)
next again (tell it it's a tivo)
next again
click done & it should be there

Ian

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

There certainly shouldn't be a problem with the 600 'cos I have one here and it works perfectly :)

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Looks like there are two ways to set them up!!! I used the online/web browser based one first and that does not show the Cisco or Tivo box at all. So now just downloading and installing what looks like a stand alone prog. So hoping that will have a different outcome!!!

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Ahh. Right. Yes. I always use the software not the on-line version. Sorry for the confusion :)

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Okey dokey, now all set up and working!!!! Had to use the stand alone program though as the web based one wont recognise the Tivo!!! Which is a pain as it web version has more options and a better interface!!! ho hum!!! Time to play with it now :O)

Thanks for all the advice in previous posts in this thread, it has proved invaluable.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

After reading about all the benefits of Harmony remotes on this thread, have just gone and ordered a Harmony 700 :)

All my devices are in the database except my new Samsung TV. I've noticed that the next model up for my TV is in the database, so would that work for it?

It's coming on Tuesday, so look forward to replacing my 4 remotes with just the one :tu:

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I didn't know there was an online web browser version; is it recent? Glad I didn't know about it if it causes problems.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I dont know how recent it is as this is my first logitech remote!! But it does have additional functions such as being able to set up favorite channels which cant be done from the stand alone prog.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

You can set up favourites from the stand alone software; it's a long time since i've done it, and can't remember how, but I had favourites on both my harmoy remotes for the V+. I haven't bothered for the Tivo as I didn't use them that often.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Yes you should have no problem with that. Most Samsungs, and this is true with most manufacturers, share the same commands and sometimes even the same remotes.

In fact my old Sammy had buttons on the remote the new one does not yet were still listed in the database. Or I could teach it the command from the old remote and new Sammy could still use it.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Thanks for the useful information. Got the Harmony two days ago, and am glad I bought one (I wish I'd bought one sooner :) ). Being able to press just the one button to start all my devices (instead of three spread across three remotes) is a great feature :tu:

As you said, my Samsung's remote was identical to the next model up, so the Harmony remote recognised it with no problems. The worst part about set-up was running up (to the PC) and downstairs (back to the TV) to get everything tweaked just right. And finding out that changing one thing often broke something else. But the end result was worth it :tu:

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

It has taken me a week to get mine working. I managed to get the TV set up okay with the Harmony, but I couldn't get my TV to switch over to HDMI2 without using the assistant. My DVD recorder was turning onto the wrong input too, as was my Home Cinema System and I was in a right muddle. I did phone Logitech CS and had to wait a few days for someone to get back to me as they had to escalate the query to someone with more knowledge. A really nice guy in Canada rang me last night and although it took an hour it's now all working as it should be :D

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Great news. Glad you're sorted.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Thanks, I'm glad I got it sorted too and it's so lovely to just use one remote :D

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

After enduring the muti remote problem for a coule of weeks now, and reading this thread, I have just ordered a Harmony one,

Hopefully from what I've learnt from here already I should be able to get it set up ok,

Think I will benefit from your efforts in getting the extra commands added, so thanks for that :tu:

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

After seeing the length of this thread I thought, "oh no, this isn't gonna be easy" but in the end it was a piece of cake to get my Harmony One working with the TiVo box.

The only things I changed from default were:

- Use the big Up/Down buttons as Thumbs Up and Thumbs Down
- Map the Exit button to (return to) TV
- Map bottom-left button to Clear

The one "gotcha" was that I tried to edit the menu buttons from the device and not the activity, but once I remembered that everything was fine.

One issue though: sending a sequence to change channel is extremely slow, much slower that V+ and much slower than just typing in the buttons. I tried setting the delay at 100ms, 0ms, 200ms but this seems to make no difference.

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p.s. in case you hadn't seen this, to get nice logos for channels on your Harmony One, see:

http://www.iconharmony.com/icons/home

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

May be you can put me right

I got my 600 today, created and account and downloaded software onto my PC

Cisco CT8685 was not recognised, so had to set it up using the learn mode

All works well after some messing around and I can use my TiVo with limited commands

My AV, Apple TV, Sammy TV, all work perfect, My TiVo box works ok but I have use some work arounds to get all the functions

Did I miss something? as in my case using the method above I couldn't find a
Cisco CT8685? any advice would be welcome

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I really should have been :confused:

aka The Long Way Round :D

Yes, try again ;) See attached video for proof it works!

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Well I don't doubt you at all, but it just doesn't work for me, after 6 attempts I gave it up,:(

I accept its my error but there you are, I can't get it to work using the on-line method, is there another way?

I can't watch your video on my Mac so will have to forward it to my Windows PC later

I can get some functions working and its good to be able to switch all my stuff on with one click, so will keep trying

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Yes. The software method. I thought you said you'd downloaded it before?

Yep. There you go!

For some reason it won't work with the on-line, ie web-based, version. Perhaps you should contact them about that :)

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I think I've worked out why it's not working.

Just gone into my Harmony software, and if you select Cisco then CT8685, no PVR is found (and the default settings are loaded).

However, if you select VirginMedia as the manufacturer of your cable box, then enter CT8685 then it should work - at least it does on my Harmony Software.

Hope that helps.

(also recommend afront's tip "Use the big Up/Down buttons as Thumbs Up and Thumbs Down" once you get the TiVo box recognised)

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Just downloaded the software, got a bit confused :confused: as when I first created my Harmony account it said it was downloading software,

I though that was what all I needed to do, :dunce: will try it in the morning the Harmony site seems very slow at the moment :rolleyes:

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Awww! Get a proper PC then ;)

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Finally sorted, help from this forum as been vital :erm:

Downloaded the Harmony 7.7 Remote Software, had a bit of a problem geting it to run on my Mac but managed it in the end

Found the TiVo searched by VM then CT 8685 as suggested, all my other stuff went ok first go

Changed a few buttons Thumbs up and down, TV, Clear, Home, all now working ok

TV, turns on my Sammy,AV and TiVo
Movie turns on my Sammy and AV
Music turns on my Sammy and Apple TV

Set up favorites , all sorted, so off for a walk to clear my head, thanks for all the help it would have been so much harder without it :p:

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Glad to hear you've got it sorted :tu: Since I got my Harmony, all my previous remotes are now locked in a cupboard collecting dust :)

Also, didn't know there was a Mac version of the software. I'm thinking of making the switch soon, once Lion comes out, so this is good news to me. Thanks for the information. :tu:

Harmony one battery life with Tivo
 

I know this is almost impossible to answer as it depends on usage, but i'm wondering how many days people find a fully charged battery lasts on the Harmony One?


With my V+, my Harmony one having been charged overnight and used a little in the day and a good amount in the evening, the charge indicator stayed on full.

At the time I got my Tivo, I noticed that by the end of the evening, the charge indicator had gone down to 2 out of the 3 on the level scale.

But just to complicate things, I had the 'swollen battery' known fault and Logitech sent me a new Harmony one.

I find that is also going down to 2 out of 3 of the charge levels. Logitech told me to fully charge it and see how many days it lasted. It lasted 3 days, but towards the end of the 3rd day it was still working fine but had gone to the brown indicator (rather than one of the 3 green ones).

Before contacting Logitech again, I thought I'd see what other people are getting. Although I suspect that it's not something people check out, I thought it was worth asking.

Tivo does have a lot more menus to navigate, so that could be the reason for the difference?

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Come on over to Mac, you will never go back, :)

Get the real Deal :D

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

My battery is knackered should really have followed it up with Logitech when in warranty. I get about a days usage but it has only ever run out the once on me. The fact that you are probably fiddling with every menu and option on your TiVo is helping to drain your battery. Once you go into normal usage mode you will be fine.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Are you sure that it is not suffering "Memory Fade", Newer battery's are said not to suffer this. Do you charge it every night or leave it until it runs out and then re-charge :confused:

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I set my Harmony One up as a PVR, then selected CT8685, then it let me select Tivo. I now have the thumbs up/down icons on my screen when I setup the activity.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

After many days of tweaking my harmony one its now working great.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Just redid mine using that, although due to having the colour buttons, a my shows and zoom buttons on the first screen they have been set up on page 2. I am sure I am more likely to continue to use the up and down rocker for thumbs up and down but it does look very cool.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Got my Tivo working with my Harmony One remote all working great except for one thing!

Set up all my favourites but its so slowwwwww changing over. I mean really slow. If you use the number buttons its great but using Favourites is awful.

Any one else had this problem and if so is there a solution?

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

I have exactly this problem, and have tried the varied suggestions here to fix it, including stting up the device as a Cisco, a Virgin Media and a Tivo. All give me the same result as Dazza outlined above. I've logged a query with Logitech, but if anyone has any suggestions I would be grateful.

Re: The Harmony remote thread
 

Had the same problem and it was frustrating. But all you need to do is to go in to your device settings for the TiVo and adjust the delay settings. I knocked the inter key delay and the inter device delay down to zero. It is now lightning fast changing channels using the favourites!