Gay couple claim they were ejected from pub for kissing
 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...ed-pub-kissing

Pub is probably going to be in trouble if this is true.

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Only if they are shown to have treated the men differently on account of them being gay. If the landlord doesn't want overt displays of affection on his premises he is entitled to stop it.

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A hetrosexual couple having a snog in public might suffer the same fate, just have a laugh about it and change their local. :shrug:

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This is it, im sometimes embarrased by some of these gay people who do something and then shout HOMOPHOBIA when they cannot get their own way!

I know of a case where a gay couple were thrown out for heavy petting and took the landlord to court over discrimination, what they didnt realise was about an hour before they arrived a str8 couple was thrown out for the same thing and had witnesses to prove it so the whole discrimination thing was thrown out. The reason is a lot of older people drink in the pub and get upset by seeing this kind of thing but gays especially men can get very uptight if they think for some reason they have been done a wrong even if its them to blame i see it all the time on the gay scene and i fell like slapping each of them.

I dont know if this is the case here and cant say if it is or not but i know it does happen.

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Well I imagine they might be rather embarrassed. However if was the case they were kicked out because they were displaying signs of affection rather than it being based on their sexuality then that's a lot less insulting and easier to shrug off. If, say, they were in a gay bar and where kicked out for their heterosexuality then they may feel a lot angrier.

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If your embarrassed than it's kind of your problem, not theirs. I might also feel rather embarrassed because it would be something I do not usually see and I would be very self-aware not to appear like I am shocked. However this is my problem and I don't think I have the right to tell them to change their behaviour to suit my own eccentricities.

Heavy petting is different to kissing but if the landlord can prove such a thing, and I guess he could what with the other witnesses, then the gay couple would (should?) have been unsuccessful in their lawsuit. Still, two incidents of couples needing to be kicked out due to heavy petting within the space of a couple of hours? Must have been something in the air that night.

See my first point. They haven't done anything wrong if it's simply because these 'older people' don't like gay people.

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Damien, if what they are doing is upsetting the other people in the pub gay or str8 then they are doing something wrong as a landlord will always go with the majority of the people in the pub.

This is what i was saying about that one i was telling u about, he wasnt at all discriminating he just didnt want the other people in the pub annoyed by it and they have as much rights as the ones doing what they were doing.

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What right does the majority have to suppress the rights of others? As long as those rights are the same everyone else has then someone's sexuality shouldn't remove it.

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I think if they were told already about it. then I expect they were taking the pee the second and third time. probably exaggerating it all the more.

that's what I'd say happened, anyway.

We'll have to wait for the outcome when it goes to court.
I presume it's automatically going to be a court hearing?

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Damien, I think you need to slow down a bit. Stop trying so hard to get offended on behalf of other people. You are making a pretty huge assumption that the landlord was 'suppressing' anyone.

This is not going to go any further unless the couple concerned think they can prove, on the balance of probabilities, that the landlord kicked them out for doing something gay.

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It won't ... the Equality Act allows individuals to take court action if they feel discriminated against, but it's not a criminal offence that would be pursued by the police and CPS.

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and what right does the minority have to upset the majority of others? it works both ways.

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I was referring to Welshchris's suggestion that the majority of people in the pub he mentioned had a right not to have to see a gay couple kissing. I was saying that preventing them from doing so on the basis of being gay would be suppressing their right.

They are not harming anyone, or stopping them from doing anything. The majority should learn to tolerate others.

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chris are you gay or do you just go to the clubs with friends? I think Damien has the wrong idea here . You are not discriminating

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Huh? I presumed he was talking about a gay couple being asked to leave in a non-gay pub?

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I was just asking chris the question because he mentioned spending time in the gay scene and the other day he mentioned a couple of gay clubs iirc he visitied.

Now I do not know if he is gay but it certainly means he isnt anti gay I believe

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You might have a point, if we knew that the Landlord objected because they were Gay, and happily allowed straight couples to do the same thing. We don't know if he does.

Having been to Soho for a drink on a few occassions, and seen some of the punters there, I think he's probably working in the wrong area if he is homophobic.

A couple of friends of mine had something similar happen. They are both Indian. One is a woman, and one a man.

We'd gone out drinking with the woman to a favourite local pub, and she got a little loud (not angry, just shouting and laughing while drunk). The Landlord threw her out. We thought it was because she was being loud.

A few weeks later, my boss, who is also Indian and certainly not loud (although he isn't shy and retiring either) went into the same pub for a quiet pint. He was also asked to leave. I am not sure what happened after that, but the chain that owned that pub moved the landlord elsewhere and eventually sold the pub.

Ironically, it's actually a much nicer pub now, and they even happily serve my boss (the lady has long since married and moved up north).

That case, I would say, is clearly racism. The case in the news (based on what is written) is not clearly homophobia.

In fact, if it isn't homophobia and they claim it is, they are cheapening the plight of those who are geniunly suffering homophobia (you know, those being insulted or assaulted because of their sexuality) by comparing their experiences (which may be quiet severe) to a peck on the cheek.

Also, it depends on the kiss. If it was a small kiss on the lips, or a peck on the check, most people would not be offended. If it was a full on frenchie with tongues in mouth and lots of noise, people may well have been offended whether it was man to man, man to woman or woman to woman.

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If it was a woman to woman I'd be cheering them on.

not the type that look harder than me though.

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Seeing two men kiss makes me want to vomit!

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do you feel sick at being left out?

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It was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

;)

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i am gay and i was talking about a gay couple being asked to leave a non gay club but as i also stated so were a str8 couple and as i stated in this case they were harming people but upsetting them because they didnt like it in the pub wheather str8 or gay and i think thats justified.

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That is justified. It's not justified if they did it because they were gay though. Which in that case he didn't and in this case we didn't know.

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but you were to quick to jump on the soapbox even when ( and I mean no offense) someone who bats for your side is understanding ;)

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But it was Cain and Abel....:D

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Bat for my side?

Well I find it odd if it really thinks it's would be ok for two couples to be treated differently dependent on if they were a heterosexual couple or a homosexual one. I am confused if that's what he meant or he meant only in the case of the example he was given, which was where a heterosexual couple was also kicked out for the same type of thing that evening.

I then think he claimed that because the men in the pub don't want to see it then they are right to be asked to stop or asked to leave as the men in the pub have a right to demand that. Which is what I disagreed with.

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I'm sure there's a Jeffery Archer / prison joke in there somewhere

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I dunno and I cant be bothered to read back

However I do agree with you it has to be tolerated whether you like it or not equality and all that

I will be perfectly honest with you I would not feel comfortable if 2 gay men were heavy petting kissing and cuddling I think I could handle but tongues moans and grinding I think would make me wanna go to another pub. I think though I would feel the same if it was a hetero couple however if 2 birds were lezzing up I would be fine lol

I deffo do not think gays should be singled out but I for one do not want to see to much of it

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they were brothers

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That's just wrong....

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I don`t want to be in a pub, or anywhere, and see two gay blokes kissing.
If i was anywhere and had children with me, how would you explain that to them?
If you want to do it, Do it in private, don`t push it onto the rest of us to accept it.:td:

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we have no choice we are a liberal tolerant country now if you are not then you get in trouble ( nothing that I have ever or will ever support though)

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You don't have to accept it, you have to tolerate it.

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How about tolerence of the Gay community on our views then?
We don`t spout about being Heterosexual all the time because its accepted that, thats what we are and we have our own opinions.! :shrug:

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I don't think homosexuals are campaigning against, or have a problem with, heterosexuals. You don't really hear them going on about how disgusting heterosexuals are do you?

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No but i do hear them going on about how `normal sexually `they are.
Do you think Homosexuality is normal?

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It is for gays.

Dude, chill out - it's legal, not compulsory.;)

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Are you allowed to say anything?
comment?
show any signs of disgust?
run away screaming?

or do they go against you?

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To be honest I don't want to see any couple snogging in the pub. Gay or straight.

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Pubs are weird lately. I get the feeling everybody has given up smoking because it's only me that is.

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I feel the same when two heterosexual couples kiss, gay or str8 you don't want to see people kissing when your trying to have a quiet drink in a pub.

I think its fine when your in a night club.

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It seems pretty widespread in the animal kingdom.

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That kind of thing makes me sick - I hate it when I'm in the pub enjoying a quiet pint, and in come 2 male buffalos kissing each other.

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Well, no. I don't think it's 'normal', that is if we define normal in the sense of conforming to the most common behaviour. That said not being 'normal' doesn't mean something is wrong or bad, it means it's different.

If everyone were normal the world would be a much more boring place.

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Oh it will be when the GAY MAFIA get their way! :shocked: ;)

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And ?? How do you relate animals to Homosexuality? Stop trying to justify Homosexuals. We`re talking about Human beings here.
Are you one of them? A Homosexual?

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I mean normal in the sense that if gay was the way to be, The Human race would die out, don`t you agree. We were born to reproduce and Gay couples cannot reproduce. Am i wrong?:erm:

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Justifying? I'm just stating the facts. Humans display similar behaviour as many other animals. So, in that respect, we're pretty normal.

Would it upset you if I was?

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Normal originally is to have sex to procreate. Its become quite normal for humans to have sex now recreationally. I guess as we as a species developed something had to change because why would any reasonable man have kids in a world where we are all going to die and mankind through the ages have thought a lot about that.

it isnt normal by any definition of the word normal to be gay because normal is what the majority do and not normal is what the minority do. Unless of course you now measure normal as having sex for fun rather than having babies then I guess being gay and having sex would fall into that definition of normal

I spose the act of gay love I can not complain about as I do like scoring 4 points sometimes to but only with a woman

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It would upset me if you were - when I tried it on with you, you said you didn't go that way...

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he was just being polite he told me you smell lol

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No. However you confusing normal with right. Just because something isn't normal doesn't mean it's wrong or that there is a way we are 'meant' to be. People can do as they wish if they aren't hurting anyone.

Besides given the massive increase in population size, the problems we have feeding the human race at the moment, and the prospect of future energy problems you could argue that homosexuals are actually benefiting the human race by not reproducing. :D

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So does that mean straight couples who can't, or choose not to, have children aren't normal, and you wouldn't want to see them kissing in a pub?

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He was dating me at the time, that's why.

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How did he do that - Carbon-14 or cut off the top of your head and counted the rings?;)

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Don`t be stupid Hugh. You know what I`m saying.:erm:

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Frankly, I can hardly stomach being a member of the same forum as you.

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Brave man going anywhere near his ring(s)

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You say "stupid", I say "pointing out the inconsistencies in your position"...;)

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And which` inconsistencies` would you be talking about Hugh?

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You're just bitter because I laughed at your thingybob and went home.

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One rule for straights, one for gays - that inconsistency....

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Why would i mind seeing straight couples kissing in a pub? Pretty obvious that one i think, because they`re in a NORMAL relationship.
The fact that they can`t have children is irrelevent because i said that a Gay couple cannot have children and if Gay was the way to be, the Human race would die out, which it would.:rolleyes:

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So you mind only because it's not normal? Seems pretty petty to me...
And it's not. In fact, we're overpopulating the planet to the brink of breaking it. Dying out is the least of our problems despite homosexuality being as old as humanity.

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Danielf , my point was `if Gay was the way to be, the Human race would die out, which it would.:rolleyes:` You can`t really argue about that statement can you?:erm:

" So you mind only because it's not normal? Seems pretty petty to me..." Yes, I do mind actually. Call me what you want but thats what i believe and i don`t think its petty at all.

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Of course the human race would die out but the last time i checked not everyone is gay, so no problem.

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Argue about it being logically correct, no. Arguing about the statement being pertinent, or the outcome even a remote possibility very much so.

So it's because you believe it to be wrong because humans would die out if we all were, even though the probability of that happening being infinitesimally small. Yes, that seems petty to me.

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I don't think he thinks it's wrong because of the human race dying out. he thinks it's wrong because he just thinks it's wrong.

which is ok. I accept what he thinks.
so should we all. if we all thought the same, whether that be by pressure or free will. we would be boring.

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Off topic, look at the 49 guests :O.

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Ignore them Frankie. they follow me everywhere :)

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I tells you. It's not normal all this voyeurism...

Up to 57 guests now... Pervs :erm:

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it might be the thought police seeing if there is anyone they can level charges upon lol

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Rubbish.

Alan Partrigde is my source.

;)

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You can think whatever you want. If you post it on a public forum, you're bound to be challenged...

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i dont deal with people based on sexuality, race, religion etc. I deal with people based on how they are with me. If they are ok with me im ok with then. One of my best mates who was older than i was who knew me from when i was about 4 years old. He was an Italian Catholic and very religious and my sexuality was never a problem for him even though his religion is very against it.

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Who are u or anyone else to say that being gay isnt the way to be? No one has the right to dictate to anyone else how they should live in their private lives and how 2 consenting adults get up to in private.

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Thats what i posted in an earlier post mate. If you want to be gay and do what gay people do, do it behind closed doors. Don`t try and tell me its Right or Normal.;)

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in the same way dont try and tell me what is right and what isnt.. If i wanted to kiss my partner in public or hold his hand i have every right to do so in the same way anyone else does but there is a time and the place for it wheather str8 or gay.

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What a heated thread!
For me, there is a level of affection/... that is 'acceptable in a public place' and then there's the level of 'go and get a room or at least remove yourselves to the carpark'.
As someone has already said - out for a drink? you might not want a display to go with it and that goes for straight and gays for me. And I'm not homophobic.

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having worked in pub's and bar's over the years i have seen a lot of strange things, i have nothing against gay people be they male or female but like straight people they should respect how other's may feel about certain things in public.

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exactly caff. A lot of older generation especially dont wanna see these kind of displays whatever the sexuality as they were brought up in a different time where those kind of things were kept behind closed doors.

Its all well and easy to say Well times have changed but everyone has a right not to feel uneasy in a public place and especially in a public house.

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exactly mate

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"If you want to be gay" i personally believe we are born gay or straight, from when i was aged 10 or 11 i knew i was different.

And to me it is right and normal.

I do respect your opinion but you just don't understand and thats what it comes down to, lack of understanding.

Rant over :).

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oooooo Frankie Giss a kiss and lets show budwieser how its done lol

I knew a lot younger than than Frankie, i can remember being in Primary school and feeling some attractions towards men but at that age you dont understand what they mean.

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There's going to be more to this story than meets the eye. The media loves a good "poor persecuted gays" story.

I think it's about time people realised political correctness does not always apply in reality.

If the landlord was the one who was offended by this then he's the one with the problem and can't reasonably expect people not to show affection in public.

If however it was a group of punters in there who were threatening to leave if the landlord did nothing about it, that's more understandable. I'm not saying I think it's right, but it's economics. Publicans need to keep people in the pubs, spending money. If a group were threatening to leave because of 2 people. he's not likely to think "I'll lose their money just to be PC".

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Last time I checked very few people are gay, perhaps fewer than 2% which makes me wonder if all the recent law changes are justifyable for such a small percentage of the population, considering the the impact it had on Catholic adoption agencies for example. Amazing what a few high profile lobby groups and some celeb supporters can achieve if these figures are anyhting like correct.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...-population-uk

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I wondered the same myself, I mean it's not the first time people have engineered a story just for effect, like those animal rights groups and the elephant the other week.

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Catholics - 8% of the UK population (five million), of which 20% (1 million) regularly attend mass.

So, that means 1 million practicing Catholics, and 1.2 million practicing (or they might be quite good at it, so don't need to practice) gays (2% of the population, according to your figures*).

Who's the minority? ;)

*(and according to research quoted in the Guardian, 3.6 million gay people in the UK )

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Yet 3% decided that they did not want to answer that question for that particular survey and previous surveys have always stated a 5-6% figure.. so which is right, the one you want to be right or the one that is right.. they might not be the same.. Also how many gay men/women living in hetrosexual marriages and actively participating in homosexual activities would admit to being gay?? There is a reason as to why "coming out of the closet" is an apt term for some gay people.

Still though even 1 percent is over half a million people.. don't they have rights??

Getting back to the story (which to me is just a young couple who don't seem to realise that not everyone might be as free and as open as they are) Yes they should of been more careful of their actions (which for the reaction they got was more than just a simple peck) but I'm also very surprised by the reaction of a landlord in London's SOHO which is an area known for hetro/gay sexual activity at all times of the day or night.

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You seem to have missed the point, the reason I mentioned the adoption agencies wasn't because they were a minority (although that might have been the reason why they worked the way they did) but because of the impact it'll have on the most hard to place kids lives, those agencies placed more teenagers than any other organisation I belive.

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Obviously more rights than the aforementioned teens..

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You are assuming that all rules are created equal and based on the same requirements..

If it were purely on Numbers then the 189,100 (2009) abortions in the UK would never have happened as the Catholic population outweighs that number..

Figures are not everything and not everything is based on figures.. Instead we tend to base a lot of rules on human rights, like the right adopt a child even no matter what your sexual preference is, the right to show affection to a partner and the right not to have someone accuse you of being a pervert for innocently doing so (had that one shouted at me a few times)

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and how many people are not really "genetically" gay if that really is the case? How many women turn gay because they are abused as children? I know a few fit in that description and how many male gays are there because they found it easier to be whilst going through pubity and are simply just confused. And what about those in gay relationships who are bi sexual? is that meant to be genetic too? or is it just cuz they are rampant and do not care where they get their rocks off??

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From what I've read and heard (including a statement by the original complainant) this doesn't seem to me to be about gay issues at all. It's about causing offence by engaging in actions that others deemed inappropriate and there was apparently rather more involved than a quick kiss. I believe the same thing would've been done had the couple involved been male/female but since they wouldn't have such a point to prove I don't imagine they'd have made quite the same fuss about it. About 10 years ago my wife and I were approached by security staff in a bar and asked to tone down what we were doing or leave. We were only kissing with our arms around eachother and couldn't see what the fuss was about but certainly feel motivated to complain about our treatment.

Obviously the facts behind all this are still unclear and I'm reserving judgement about the guys involved but I do think that certain group rather like 'engineering' contentious sitautions like this about which they can then complain in the hope that they can gain some 'advantage' for their ilk whether that be publicity, changes in the law or anything else.

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many who are part of a minority like to use prejuduce as an excuse to cause or fuss gain attention or get someone into trouble cuz they can

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But we are not talking about homophobic B&B owners......;)

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sorry I can not see me eluding to B&B owners in my post? I was generalising. Plenty of incidents where someone says another has acted rascist.homaphobic/ a religious bigot against them where nothing of the sort have happened.

Of course there are plenty of cases where it has but not all

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I think Hugh was joking... :)

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Well the people making the claim are saying they were simply having a 'quick kiss'. We will have to see what comes out.

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The figures will be for LGB as bi-sexuals are considered Gay..

I'm not a great believer in laws for a minority purely because they are a minority instead laws should be based on if something is right or wrong.. Discrimination because someone is considered different or does different things than another person is simply wrong.

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And some members of the majority like to dismiss claims of prejudice as 'troublemaking' or an attempt to obtain preferential treatment because they are uncomfortable, for whatever reason, in recognizing such prejudice does still exist.

When it comes to such claims. We should be careful on both sides to avoid making such accusations, i.e that the pub owners are homophobes or the claimants are troublemakers. Sometimes both parties are probably correct and the dispute was born of a misunderstanding.

Today the pub had to close it's doors as a result of a protest against it. I am not happy that such protests took place before we established guilt.

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Unfortunately, if l was in a pub and l saw it, l would ask them to stop as it was causing embarrasment, if it continued then l would complain to the landlord.

I am the sort of person that live and let live is my motto, but l would ask the couple first before complaining, as that would be the courte way of doing it.

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just like you did when this thread started??? you were right in it from the off

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I do not understand how a bi sexual can be considered gay seems odd to me

The rest I agree with totally :)

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You really don't see any irony in typing two contradictory statements in the same post, do you, Arthur? :erm:

btw,
a) who would they be causing embarrassment to?
b) would you do the same if you saw a straight couple snogging?

I await your answers with bated breath.

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The thing is, there is kissing and theres eating the other persons face off.

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Yes I know that - which is why I stated that the facts aren't yet clear. Peter Tatchell was on the radio earlier making exactly that claim on their behalf.

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In other news ... the sun came up this morning, the Pope has professed his belief in Catholicism and this just in, grizzly bears prefer arboreal cover whilst defecating.

Tatchell. Mind your own business for once. If you have any, that is. It seems that your business is minding everyone else's for them. :dozey:

Re: Gay couple claim they were ejected from pub for kissing
 

Quite and I don't think his involvement does them any good to be honest. I'm sure many people will think it just makes the whole thing look contrived or at least just another bandwagon jumping opportunity. I find it odd that some people make a great deal of fuss about things they don't agree with but can't accept that others might find what they do unacceptable. I know plenty of dog owners who think their animals are just perfect but they scare the hell out of my lad and these people just can't accept that. We all have to live in this world so perhaps if/when others find what we're doing unacceptable we ought to try looking at things from their point of view before moaning about it and assuming some sort of ingrained prejudice.

Re: Gay couple claim they were ejected from pub for kissing
 

Hugh, there is a big difference between a gay couple kissing and a man and woman.

I am a man of the world and have seen everything in my life, but if l was in a pub or in the street for that matter, and l saw a gay couple kissing, that would be embarrasing for myself, as you would not expect it. Men and Women Kissing in the pub or even in the street is natural and happens everday.