Cameron ever heared of telephone or video conference is bloomin jaunting off again
 

This time bloomin paris to talk to french president on libya this bloke only interested in his air miles.

Talk about wasting public taxpayers money never known PM to leave the country so much.

You got phone and video link to world leaders you dont have to go in person every five minutes.

Surely he should CURB it to while expects the rest of the country preach what you speak.

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Its completely acceptable considering both parties involved are actively attacking Libya and being there they can discuss any amounts of things in private, The last I checked using a mobile phone as a top man in this country risks you being exposed to numerous things.

For example if the UK and France want to send ground troops or up the pressure its hardly something to be done over Mobile phone.

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Another pointless partisan rant. I don't imagine for a minute that you would have started this thread if it were your favourite head boy Ed who was dashing about being all prime ministerial.

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All leaders of note have encrypted systems where they can talk business. These things are VERY VERY secure and been used by leaders over the years to talk sensetive business. What makes cameron different to other world leaders in the past.

I suspect its another to make him look appealling to other world leaders using the personal touch calling in for tea and biscuits. He dont really need to go all over the shop but it makes him look powerfull if in person.

I would be shocked if he's spent more than week in the UK since he got the job. I literally never known a PM to go on so many trips this quick.

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:zzz:

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Codswollop is nothing to do with political stance if ED had these cuts and was flying around the world would be get the same response. ITs ABOUT TIME GOVERNMENT & POLITICIANS did the same. They want cut services but dont cut theyre own spending.

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I'm afraid the OP is being a little naive. There's a reason why business meetings and political affairs are still conducted in person: there are all kinds of subtle signals which pass between the parties to any such meeting, links that have to be established on a personal level. Diplomats have known this ever since diplomacy was invented; only after such links have been established can you conduct business or political transactions long-distance with any degree of confidence, secure communications notwithstanding. In some cultures, it's also considered only polite to meet in person first.

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Well DC hasn't tried to get his own plane(shared or otherwise) after a few months as PM.

Now who did that in 1998 - Blair Force One anyone? :rolleyes:

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There's other benefits as well... ;)

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Anonymouse you make a valid point just wish he would curb it a little while he forcing alot people into poverty.

I heared he even spent £400,000 on two escort JAGS gas gusslers when other PM had used previous vehicles. So why buy new Cars at those prices.

ITs one rule for us but carry on wasting for them. We are all in it together sounds complete sham.

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£400,000

You 'heard' Not saw, Not proved, Not conclusive

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On the other hand, what is conclusive is Jaguar's average 28.5mpg across its range. Depends what model HMG is using of course, but for the size and power, Jags are not quite the gas guzzlers some assume them to be.

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Once armour plated and bomb proofed you will lucky get 5mpg.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3385054/Ministers-burn-taxp%20ayers-cash-on-fuel-for-luxury-Jaguars.html

Basically its a sham now understand they need the armour plating he made that many enemies. Naturally would knock the MPG but what about buying Greener car if had to which would made the MPG more healthier. Would possibly accepted the change if that happened.

What exactly was wrong with the PM's car before. It still would been armoured hardly looked a banger rust bucket when seen.

Extravagence from the PM and conservative seems to hold no bounds while we told to Cut cut and more cut.

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<~~~ has a comment but this time going to keep mouth FIRMLY CLOSED.

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You really haven't got a clue.

Re: Cameron ever heared of telephone or video conference is bloomin jaunting off agai
 

better pics of the model bought just plain awful


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/04/88.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/04/89.jpg



loved this forum about calling Vince Cable a liar over his comment about driving a Astra as we all in it together.

Yes right you drive posh sports car Cable.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=975668&i=40&mid=0&nmt=

Basically ask the question are we all in it together really.

Re: Cameron ever heared of telephone or video conference is bloomin jaunting off agai
 

I suspect that, like me, he's never 'heared' of anything.

As an aside is it such a surprise that the BiS minister is seen promoting British business? I see some clearly staged photo ops, I'm missing the part where it's suggested that any of those cars are Dr Cable's personal property.

Regarding the rest of it, yes we are all in it together, however we aren't a communist state and all those with money aren't going to have it all taken off them to ensure no-one is any better off than anyone else, almost all of those who are wealthier are paying more in both absolute and proportional terms they just start off with more so are left with more.

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Simply highlighting the load codswallop we all in it together. Services get cut lets not forget Councils in deprieved areas got the biggest kick in the teeth than those in afluent areas.

Government wasting money then MPs coming out with absured billage to make it sound like he cutting back everything. While this scrounging MP's thats ALL PARTIES pillage.

Oh yes they might have to drop few things might not be able to go out to that £2,000 a meal restaurant or poor precious might not be able to get her new horse daddy promised.

While poor and low paid stuggle to wonder there cuts what necessary needs they have to do away with just to put food on the table.

The cuts and hardship is totally miscued.

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Why don't you go and man the barricades then, instead of whingeing about it on a forum. Let's see how far you get.

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Surely in these days of austerity that were all so fond of the people at the top could make a decision to cut costs on everything including making decisions to bomb the crap out of places in the name of oil so we can all feel the same amount of pain were all feeling. Or am i in a forum were if your not blue in your political beliefs your just laughed at.

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Wow. You signed up just to tell us that?

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No i didnt daniel honeypie i was just browsing a few right wing forums and decided to join this particular one because it looks so friendly i thought i would put my two penneth in :) or isn't that allowed here ? i thought this was the new big society were we are all allowed a say.

Re: Cameron ever heared of telephone or video conference is bloomin jaunting off agai
 

There are plenty of intelligent, thoughtful and articulate left-wing members on this forum, and the intelligent, thoughtful and articulate right-wing members tend to enjoy discussing issues with them.

Unsurprisingly, however, those same members tend not to give too much respect to ignorant, pointless and ill-considered partisan tub-thumping, which in my humble opinion is all this particular thread amounts to.

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Sorry to disbelieve you Chris but after viewing this site for a while i find that view hilarious , its blame the last lot not us its entirely them making us do what we really dont want to have to do . Most sane people know Conservatism stands for look after number 1 sod the rest of use. How can a few toffee nosed millionaires possibly know how to run a country for the good of everyone rather than there friends in the city.

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A good point well made. This country went to hell in a handcart back in 2007 for exactly this reason.

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Blame again i see, next you will blame clement atlee for stopping the blue cheese mountains getting to mars to release the moomins ? I have as much faith in this coalition doing good for this country as i have of certain forum moderators putting a balanced view across rather than i,m alright jack sod the rest of use.

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The moderators here aren't under any obligation to be balanced when taking part in a discussion. They have opinions, the same as everyone else, and are free to share them. If we're moderating, we take a step back from the discussion first.

It's a pity though, I hoped you might have been planning to bring some intelligent, thought-provoking left-wing analysis to this hilarious forum. But it looks like you're just here to join in the mindless sloganizing.

You did choose an apt user name though.

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I disagree with everything you say, but that's ok because were all allowed a view on a hilarious forum such as this isn't that right. Some of use wouldn't know financial hardship if you were down to your last £30000 , about time a few people started to live in the real world apart from sat on forums saying whats happening is for the good of everyone . Tell that to people who have lost there jobs houses relationships purely down to the rabid right wing **** who now hold power.

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Nothing like a reasonable post* to gain people's viewpoints, and perhaps find some common ground)


(*and this is nothing like one, just diatribe, insults, and polemic).

Re: Cameron ever heared of telephone or video conference is bloomin jaunting off agai
 

Pardon me Hugh im just enjoying my extremely expensive evening meal, i will reply in full when i have finished all being well. I do like to eat well and tell all my internet chums that the cuts won't stop me from living in the manner that i am used too.

Re: Cameron ever heared of telephone or video conference is bloomin jaunting off agai
 

Good for you - nothing like champagne socialism.

Keep up the good work.

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Funny as the first thing i saw when you posted that was a Labour Advert in my head. But hey you will call me bigoted next and lie to make me attack a country that has oil.

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Your a Labour Mp enjoying your food on expenses then :LOL:

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Another bridge has had an eviction. Remember everyone dont feed and just say NO

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Listen to him folks disregard him at your peril . i sense the blue gang is gathering and i'm petrified.

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Pretty much why there isn't much of a discussion about these things on this type of site. :rolleyes:

(Just in case of confusion, that wasn't aimed at wasteoftime).

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Who's to blame? Those who had over ten years to build up record amounts of debt, or those who have had ten months to try and reduce the debt?

On a more personal level, if you had a credit card, who do you blame when someone runs amok with it (building up huge amounts of debt) then someone else comes along saying you have to pay off some of that debt.

As for your comment about toffee nosed millionaires running the country for the good of everyone, not just their friends in the city, what a pity that's not a view shared by the last lot of toffee nosed millionaires, who happily threw money at their friends in the city while prentending to be a caring, socialist party..

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It's all a waste of time Stu ... ;)

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I will disregard your thoughts if thats ok stuart. i will go in conservative mode and what i think is correct and if any of use disagree your wrong.

Re: Cameron ever heared of telephone or video conference is bloomin jaunting off agai
 

Think you're mistaking conservatism with ignorance, a trait more easily seen within the left wing (see UK Uncut) and New Labour (See 1997 - 2010).

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And you my friend might as well be replying to a set of net curtains thats how much i regard your opinions lol i have wandered through your ramblings in odd moments and we are opposites an will never attract . The phrase your looking to become is a wind up merchant and honestly your not that good at it.

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I agree that low level meeting should be done by video conferencing, but a case like Libia should be done face to face.

My last company reckoned it would save over £250,000 a year by going to VC, (hotels, overtime, expenses etc).

The outlay cost of equipment was minimal.

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And what makes you think we are taking any notice of you?

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Aw come on, In the brilliant words of Paula Abdul, " we take two steps forward, we take two steps back..... We come together because opposites attract.

High priestess Paula never lies.

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Oh, the irony.....:D

Most (if not all) of your posts today have been content-lite, but full of confrontational diatribe - your aim appears (imho) to be to provoke a reaction, rather than to posit a view.

Feel free to disagree, preferably with a rational position, rather than a polemic.

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Face to face meetings have many more benefits then VC and always have thats why so many leaders actually do it even putting aside the "getting your face out there and known" factor. As for all of us on here being tory fanatics lol just lol i am an incap claimant i am not having many happy thoughts currently about this government but to absolve the last lot for the complete total and utter mess they created is far worse then being politically biased.

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Fine by me. If you want to ignore logic and believe your own party politics instead, that's your problem..