Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/broa...rural-britain/

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/4...usinesses.html

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/broadban...or-rural-areas

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

Thats pretty good news...if it all pans out the way it should...

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

All PR I'm afraid, the PIA agreement hasn't even been completed yet... considering Talk Talk and VM were both signatories on a letter of complaint about the initial pricing of PIA I would suggest it will be a good few years before anything on this scale

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

VM aren't building the network, they've agreed to purchase wholesale services on it. PIA rates are Fujitsu's problem and their fight on this one.

You're dead right PR is a big driver behind the announcement, they are trying to get their hands on some of the BDUK funding. In addition this is to put some pressure on Ofcom to force PIA rates lower.

Some well clustered rural areas are actually cheaper to enable for FTTP than urban areas due to less complicated civils within the home, less MDUs, easier access to homes, etc.

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

But they don't want you to know that though, do they? ;)

The news of this Rural Fibre network is really getting me excited :D

I hope we get a list soon!

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

Until the PIA deal and its pricing is resolved then we wont hear a thing. This may well be paper talk from Ftel, the same way Google talked about Fibre distribution in the states and 3 years later they have just announced the first city to be passed with no set roll-out dates.

Fujitsu look like they are trying to branch out from their current work flows due to the recent loss of large contracts with BT, building and wholesaling a Fibre network is one way to generate revenue. I wouldn't be excited by this at all, until words are put into action and the first hole is dug...

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

As someone looking to move out of town, from a 50mb cable connection to what is billed as a 2mb ADSL with expected 1mb speed (ugg), clearly this is a good development.

However the cynic in me says in reality it'll never happen. Government grant or not, they simply won't be doing most rural homes. There will be a few token villages done, but individual houses/farms etc have no chance.

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ah well, luckily for me, I live in the city!!!!

1gb symmetrical will do me nicely

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

You won't get 1Gb symmetrical in whichever city you live in. Fujitsu is proposing to build a rural network, not an urban one.

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

:bigcry:

should have read it properly

i might cancel my web hosting, get myself a place in the country and set up a web hosting company!!

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

And its also unlikely that you will see anything like GB symmetrical whenever this system launches... if it ever does.

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

it says 1gb symmetrical from day 1, with the potential to be upgraded to 10gb and beyond

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

The network might be capable of that, but it would be up to he ISPs utilising the network to decide the speed of the products they offer.

I can't see either Virgin or TalkTalk offering gigabit speeds if at any point they need to route traffic onto core networks that aren't able to offer that speed to an individual consumer. Furthermore it might make their marketing strategies more difficult - at present VM is happily bragging that it has the fastest broadband as it can offer 50 or 100Mb on its own cable network. I can't see it wanting to upstage itself by making far faster speeds available to a small minority of effectively off-net customers.

It's important to see this week's announcement for what it is - a headline-grabbing stunt designed to try to secure as much public funding as possible for the project.

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

Also, if Virgin did start to use a wholesale network, its unlikely they would offer a 2 tier service where people on FTTH would get faster service. Its likely that existing service would be delivered by RFoG and all customers regardless of Docsis 3 or FTTH would get the same product.

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

Interesting that we need the Japanese to "fix" our broadband out from the dark ages and into the present.

Sweden and Japan must be doing something right if it is able to have a stable and excellent broadband service :P Hopefully other providers will learn from them :P

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

It's called having higher population densities and laxer planning rules.
Don't kid yourself into thinking the rural areas in those countries have it any better than we do. You still need to live in a city for high speed services.

They can also string their cables up on poles which is far far cheaper, makes rolling out a network cost a fraction of what it does over here.

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

In Sweden's case spending lots of that >50% of GDP they take in tax on municipally owned fibre. Japan have better demographics and pole mounted fibre. I wouldn't have any problem with pole mounted fibre but YMMV.

http://www.dannychoo.com/post/en/165...+Internet.html

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

£300 a month for 1Gbs dedicated. Nice.

This chappy is getting 100mb for close to £8 a month then about £40 after 1 year. Not bad.

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

You forgot to mention the upload.

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

yeah but that looks disgusting, looks like the mess from behind my telly is floating in the street

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Agreed, that is a shocking price to pay for slightly faster broadband. It's not even necessary. I like how everyone is more in touch with technology to the extent they actually feel embarrassed to be behind the times (antennae's on their roofs!) but I'm more than happy to be behind by a few years if it means we get it put in the ground.

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if we had the awesome tech japan had, for instance the FTTH on the picture, but instead it was below ground, it would be pretty awesome

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Incredibly expensive too - not conducive with the UK market being largely people who resent paying very much for broadbandings.

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I wouldn't have a problem with it either, provided the ISP's utilizing this method actually passed on the savings to their customers.

Instead, i believe they'd just see it as an opportunity to maximize their profits.. Hell, the penny pinchers at VM would probably introduce a pole charge :rolleyes:

Anyone remember the old Rediffusion cable system?

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 

Pass on what savings?

This isn't about being able to pass on any savings, it merely reduces the cost of rolling out fibre from impossibly expensive to just very expensive.

It's how cheap the services are here that makes the maths so difficult for operators.