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Media Boy UK 10-04-2011 18:06

BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Sky has confrim that the next Khan fight on Saturday night (April 16th) will not be on Sky Sports channels.

The Fight was set to be shown LIVE on Sky Box Office.

Is BSkyB running out of money?

First they cut the price of the Football League now this.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...64054,00.html?

muppetman11 10-04-2011 18:08

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35209760)
Sky has confrim that the next Khan fight on Saturday night (April 16th) will not be on Sky Sports channels.

The Fight was set to be shown LIVE on Sky Box Office.

Is BSkyB running out of money?

First they cut the price of the Football League now this.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...64054,00.html?

Maybe the credit crunch has hit Rupe late LOL :D

mersey70 10-04-2011 18:14

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35209760)
Sky has confrim that the next Khan fight on Saturday night (April 16th) will not be on Sky Sports channels.

The Fight was set to be shown LIVE on Sky Box Office.

Is BSkyB running out of money?

First they cut the price of the Football League now this.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...64054,00.html?

Sky supposedly knew they were unopposed in bidding for the Football League rights and bid accordingly.

Sky didn't deem the undercard of the Khan fight strong enough to warrant a PPV event. This was after ex-world heavyweight champion Hasim Rahman failed to agree to face Briton Tyson Fury.

At least Tivo customers will be able to tune in now!

devilincarnate 10-04-2011 18:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35209763)
Maybe the credit crunch has hit Rupe late LOL :D

Two words in the wrong order:erm:

Media Boy UK 10-04-2011 18:20

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35209769)
Sky supposedly knew they were unopposed in bidding for the Football League rights and bid accordingly.

Sky didn't deem the undercard of the Khan fight strong enough to warrant a PPV event. This was after ex-world heavyweight champion Hasim Rahman failed to agree to face Briton Tyson Fury.

I do not follow Boxing - My ''Media Boy'' mind was just working overtime with the takeover of BSkyB set to happen soon maybe the new owners have told BSkyB to save money to pay off the Bank loan???

mersey70 10-04-2011 18:22

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35209774)
I do not follow Boxing - My ''Media Boy'' mind was just working overtime with the takeover of BSkyB set to happen soon maybe the new owners have told BSkyB to save money to pay off the Bank loan???

I don't think you need to worry about British Sky Broadcasting's finances MB!

Media Boy UK 10-04-2011 18:23

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35209769)
Sky supposedly knew they were unopposed in bidding for the Football League rights and bid accordingly.

Sky didn't deem the undercard of the Khan fight strong enough to warrant a PPV event. This was after ex-world heavyweight champion Hasim Rahman failed to agree to face Briton Tyson Fury.

At least Tivo customers will be able to tune in now!

DS Forums think the fight maybe going to move to ITV or Premier Sports.

mersey70 10-04-2011 18:25

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35209779)
DS Forums think the fight maybe going to move to ITV or Premier Sports.

I have read Sky Sports 3.

Sky Guide conveniently says at 9pm next Saturday 'TBA'

Looks like it is still up in the air though.

Media Boy UK 10-04-2011 18:28

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35209781)
I have read Sky Sports 3

Sky Sports says tonight:

Quote:

A spokesperson for Sky Sports confirmed: "Khan vs McCloskey will not be shown on Sky Box Office or any of the Sky Sports channels as it has not proved possible to reach an agreement on TV scheduling.

"Financial terms were agreed and a solution was offered for the fight to appear on Sky Sports 3 and Sky Sports HD3 following the decision not to broadcast on Sky Box Office. It was not accepted.
Quote from Sky Sports.com.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...64054,00.html?

mersey70 10-04-2011 18:35

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35209784)
Sky Sports says tonight:



Quote from Sky Sports.com.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...64054,00.html?

I hadn't read tonights statement.

There was no way that card warranted a PPV event so hopefully another broadcaster will pick it up.

Hopefully ITV4 and ITV1 for the main event.

Maggy 10-04-2011 20:12

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Has PPV turned the public off boxing?I remember when boxing was so popular on national TV but has it become a case of out of sight out of mind? :erm:

muppetman11 10-04-2011 20:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35209853)
Has PPV turned the public off boxing?I remember when boxing was so popular on national TV but has it become a case of out of sight out of mind? :erm:

At 15.00 a pop you could be right.

mhatter67 10-04-2011 20:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35209856)
At 15.00 a pop you could be right.

Watch this space, they have 2 more PPV boxing events coming up soon,

1> David Haye
2. One of Frank Warrens big boxing nights, world title and big domestic bust up with James DeGale

Chad 10-04-2011 20:54

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
It looks like Primetime are the hot favourites to land Khan Vs. McCloskey however a late deal might be done with ITV just like when Khan Vs. Malignaggi was struggling for a broadcaster last year.

If a deal is done with Primetime, what chance have we got of Virgin offering the fight to us as they don't always cover Primetime PPV events, especially at such short notice. Worse still, what happens if Premier Sports somehow manage to come up with the funds jointly with Setanta Ireland to share the rights? McCloskey has a huge Irish following and a joint Premier Sports / Setanta Ireland bid is not unthinkable. Again there is little to no chance that we'd get to view the fight via the Virgin platform if it's screened by Premier Sports.

Unless ITV, BBC, ESPN or Eurosport buy the rights to show Saturdays fight, I don't think we'll be getting access to it via Virgin which is a real shame, if your a massive boxing fan like myself.

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35209853)
Has PPV turned the public off boxing?I remember when boxing was so popular on national TV but has it become a case of out of sight out of mind? :erm:

I've read that PPV figures for boxing on SKY over the past 24 months have been pretty poor. There used to be a winning formula to PPV boxing. Fighters would be showcased for 3 or 4 years on either ITV or BBC building a fan base and notoriety. Once they got near world title status SKY would step in and sign an exclusive PPV broadcast deal usually for 4 fights, one of the fights being for a world title.

Recently however there is no live boxing on terrestrial TV. Stars of the future are being showcased on SKY's Saturday Fight Night which pulls in modest figures. Once David Haye retires, Carl Froch retires and Amir Khan burns his bridges there is nobody currently or coming through who is gaining enough exposure to be successfully marketed as a PPV fighter. The long and short of this post is ...... boxing needs to be back on BBC or ITV in a primetime slot. Amir Khan and Joe Calzaghe drew over 10 millions viewers EACH! Khan's last fight against Maidana got in the region of 150,000 PPV buys.

muppetman11 10-04-2011 20:55

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An interesting read

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/oth...=feeds-newsxml

Chad 10-04-2011 21:09

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35209872)

Thanks for the link, good article. It looks highly unlikely I'm going to get access to this fight.

muppetman11 10-04-2011 21:14

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35209884)
Thanks for the link, good article. It looks highly unlikely I'm going to get access to this fight.

Yeah dissapointing what platforms is Primetime available on ? I ask as I don't know the first thing about PPV.

Maggy 10-04-2011 21:23

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Well it seems odd that the British public have no way to view their own athletes winning titles.
Perhaps the sport has priced itself out of business if Sky can't make money on it.

muppetman11 10-04-2011 21:34

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
It does state events are on VM don't know if this fight will be

http://www.primetimelive.co.uk/

Chad 10-04-2011 21:42

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35209899)
Well it seems odd that the British public have no way to view their own athletes winning titles.
Perhaps the sport has priced itself out of business if Sky can't make money on it.

100% correct. We should be able to celebrate our world champions without having to pay PPV or even a subscription. It's always bugged me how the big fights featuring Brits don't tend to trickle down to terrestrial TV. SKY are terrible for holding onto their TV rights when it comes to boxing. Setanta Sports used to sell the rights of their major shows to the BBC. When David Haye beat Enzo Maccarinelli in 2008 to become the undisputed champion of the world, the full fight was shown 7 days later on BBC2.

In an ideal world SKY would offer to sell either the full fight, or extended highlights to the BBC or ITV whenever they televise a Brit in action at world level. It ain't going to happen which is sad.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35209910)
It does state events are on VM don't know if this fight will be

http://www.primetimelive.co.uk/

I seem to remember someone posting on here that they couldn't order the Strikeforce PPV's as the events were only available via SKY.

I guess we'll just need to wait and see.

muppetman11 10-04-2011 21:44

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In an ideal world Rupert Murdoch wouldn't feel the need to hack phones LOL allegedly :-)

Chad 10-04-2011 21:50

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35209923)
In an ideal world Rupert Murdoch wouldn't feel the need to hack phones LOL allegedly :-)

Do you think they hack forums too those (EDITED: great guys over at SKY. They always seem to take it in the neck however they are super people especially our leader Rupert)

TheDon 10-04-2011 22:38

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35209791)
I hadn't read tonights statement.

There was no way that card warranted a PPV event so hopefully another broadcaster will pick it up.

Hopefully ITV4 and ITV1 for the main event.

The original card did.

Matt Macklin vs Ghevor (WBA Middleweight eliminator)
Anthony Crolla vs Gavin Rees (British Lightweight title)
Scott Quigg vs Someone (WBA Super-Bronze Intercontintental Bantam thingy)

Then all 3 of those fell through for various reasons and they were then replaced with:

Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman
Gary Buckland vs Someone
Rendall Munroe's comeback

Which wasn't anywhere near as strong, but still not dreadful.
Then Rahman pulled out of the Fury fight and it suddenly is dreadful and not deserving of a PPV.

It doesn't really have anything to do with the public being turned off PPV boxing, people will still pay for the right card. It has to do with that card not being anywhere strong enough, and no where near as strong as the card that Sky Sports agreed to show on PPV.

It's no surprise they pulled it from PPV, and that they haven't been able to agree a deal to show it on normal sky sports is down to the Khan camp who think they can get more money off primetime.

denphone 11-04-2011 04:25

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35209853)
Has PPV turned the public off boxing?I remember when boxing was so popular on national TV but has it become a case of out of sight out of mind? :erm:

I totally agree with you because when you look at it we are already paying a substantional amount for other sports and then they want 15.00 for this, its just pure greed.

mersey70 11-04-2011 10:02

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35209940)
The original card did.

Matt Macklin vs Ghevor (WBA Middleweight eliminator)
Anthony Crolla vs Gavin Rees (British Lightweight title)
Scott Quigg vs Someone (WBA Super-Bronze Intercontintental Bantam thingy)

Then all 3 of those fell through for various reasons and they were then replaced with:

Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman
Gary Buckland vs Someone
Rendall Munroe's comeback

Which wasn't anywhere near as strong, but still not dreadful.
Then Rahman pulled out of the Fury fight and it suddenly is dreadful and not deserving of a PPV.

It doesn't really have anything to do with the public being turned off PPV boxing, people will still pay for the right card. It has to do with that card not being anywhere strong enough, and no where near as strong as the card that Sky Sports agreed to show on PPV.

It's no surprise they pulled it from PPV, and that they haven't been able to agree a deal to show it on normal sky sports is down to the Khan camp who think they can get more money off primetime.

I agree the replacement card wasn't as strong as the original but in my opinion Sky were absolutely right to pull it as a PPV event when the Rahman fight was cancelled. Greed on the promoter's part seems to have won out. It will be interesting to see what affect this will have on Khan's promoter's relationship with Sky in future.

Posts on the The Eastside Boxing Forum are reporting that the fight is confirmed for Primetime, I haven't seen anything official myself.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/...d.php?t=302069

trickytree 11-04-2011 11:53

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If Primetime get it then it will appear on channel 0 probably.
Used it a couple of times for the Froch fights as Primetime own the rights to the Super Six tournament that was created in the U.S.

They have had a few other fights on Primetime also.
Basically just acts as an on demand channel for a few hours like Wrestlemania or any other SkyBO event.

TheDon 11-04-2011 12:00

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35210046)
I agree the replacement card wasn't as strong as the original but in my opinion Sky were absolutely right to pull it as a PPV event when the Rahman fight was cancelled. Greed on the promoter's part seems to have won out. It will be interesting to see what affect this will have on Khan's promoter's relationship with Sky in future.

Posts on the The Eastside Boxing Forum are reporting that the fight is confirmed for Primetime, I haven't seen anything official myself.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/...d.php?t=302069

Aye. There's no doubt Sky have made the right decision.

In a way you can't blame the promoters, they were looking at a PPV pay day, and then suddenly the money that they'd obviously budgeted for disappears. But then it's also their fault for letting the card deteriorate to the level it has. Khan alone is not worthy of a PPV. But it is their job to get as much money as possible from the fight, so if primetime were willing to pay more then it's their job to go with them.

Media Boy UK 11-04-2011 12:11

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
The Sun: You Khan’t have me on the cheap.

The satellite channel (Sky) offered Khan around £150,000 to broadcast his showdown on Saturday against Northern Ireland fighter Paul McCloskey at Manchester's MEN Arena.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...he-pocket.html

Chad 11-04-2011 17:53

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It's on Primetime and Virgin are offering the show.

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/5776/khanmcl.jpg

LexDiamond 11-04-2011 18:09

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35209853)
Has PPV turned the public off boxing?I remember when boxing was so popular on national TV but has it become a case of out of sight out of mind? :erm:

I have no interest in boxing whatsoever but I do always watch the big fights on PPV with my mates as it makes for an excellent night. That is except when its around mine. A few times I have paid for the fight and it ends quite literally in seconds! I'm amazed how a sport with no minimum time limit actually is successful on PPV!

Media Boy UK 10-11-2011 18:18

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King Khan returns to Sky!

Amir Khan will defend his WBA and IBF Light-Welterweight world titles against Lamont Peterson, live on Sky Sports on December 10th - first of a three-fight deal.

http://www1.skysports.com/boxing/new...n-back-on-Sky-

Chad 10-11-2011 18:31

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35328461)
King Khan returns to Sky!

Amir Khan will defend his WBA and IBF Light-Welterweight world titles against Lamont Peterson, live on Sky Sports on December 10th - first of a three-fight deal.

http://www1.skysports.com/boxing/new...n-back-on-Sky-

Yeah it's great news. The 3 fights will not be on SKY Box Office. It's a deal for the fights to be shown on SKY Sports.

The really good thing about this is we might finally see an end to PPV boxing in the UK!

When Khan moved to Primetime Live for his fight against McCloskey, Richard Schaefer confirmed if a broadcaster falls out with a Goldenboy fighter, they fall out with the whole stable. Since then Khan Vs. Judah, Floyd Mayweather Vs. Victor Ortiz and Pacman Vs. Marquez III have been on Primetime Live at £14.99 a pop.

Hopefully all future Goldenboy promoted shows will make a return to SKY Sports. Apparently Mayweather Vs. Ortiz bombed in terms of PPV buys.

denphone 10-11-2011 20:08

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35328461)
King Khan returns to Sky!

Amir Khan will defend his WBA and IBF Light-Welterweight world titles against Lamont Peterson, live on Sky Sports on December 10th - first of a three-fight deal.

http://www1.skysports.com/boxing/new...n-back-on-Sky-

Excellent and not on PPV and lets hope that trend continues.

Alan Fry 11-11-2011 11:11

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the death of ppv boxing is maybe due to boxnation (which i hope virgin are getting)

denphone 11-11-2011 11:17

Re: BSkyB pull Khan from Sky Box Office schedule.
 
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35328719)
the death of ppv boxing is maybe due to boxnation (which i hope virgin are getting)

The death of PPV boxing is more down to poor sales of PPV on Sky and the economic realities at the present time but thats not to say that in 5 years the PPV model night be back in vogue given economic improvement with peoples disposable income.

Kingofthedead4 11-11-2011 16:27

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There is PPV tomorrow night.

denphone 11-11-2011 16:33

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The question we have to ask is will Boxnation business model work and we will not know the answer to that for at least another year.


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