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Welshchris 09-04-2011 01:34

What Hard Disk Drive?
 
A mate of mine who is a photographer asked me earlier what 2TB hard disks would i recommend for a storage in his PC...

The Two i have picked are these, im just curious what people have in their opinions on them or if they have used them and had problems..

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/183971
or
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/237908

Zing 09-04-2011 01:43

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
I would install 2x Samsung F3 1tb drives instead. All eggs one basket syndrom

Welshchris 09-04-2011 07:16

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
thats not an option so he needs just 1 2TB drive

damien c 09-04-2011 07:24

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
I have 3 of the WD 2tb drives and they provide about 1.81tb each once formated.

They are slow drives when copying something on to them from another drive and back, but as they are only 5400rpm that is to be expected.

To be honest I would go with the Samsung drive as they are normally quite reliable and quick drives.

Welshchris 09-04-2011 07:51

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
the samsung 2TB are also 5400rpm the WD has 64mb cache where the Samsung 32mb cache. Hes only using them as a backup drive anyway for storage.

Zing 09-04-2011 09:29

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
They are both green which basically means some performance is lost to make them use less power

whats he gonna use to back the drive up? How important is data security to the guy?

Welshchris 10-04-2011 01:58

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
Well he has decided on the Western Digital. The reason being is he was told by a friend who is also a photographer he only uses Western Digital drives and are reliable so a decision has been made :-). I wonder how long it will last him with the ammount of pics he takes and the HD vids he has started recording to lol.

Matth 15-04-2011 19:00

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
The Western Digital is "advanced format", so some care is needed to avoid losing performance due to 4k clusters not aligned with 4k sectors. Windows 7 should format appropriately for advanced format - I think there was a patch for XP, but I can't find it right now.

LSainsbury 16-04-2011 09:36

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
I woudn't recommend any hard drive for storage of photographs on a PC. Yes I have a copy on my PC, but also a copy on a mirrior'ed NAS 2 x1TB drives and soon a external copy on a offsite 500GB External USB drive. Covered everything there!

Zing 16-04-2011 09:48

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
I use the cloud now for backups. Not just in one place either in a few

LSainsbury 16-04-2011 13:44

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zing (Post 35214123)
I use the cloud now for backups. Not just in one place either in a few


I have too much data to backup to any cloud service. And I would not trust any company with my data.

Zing 16-04-2011 13:51

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
I encrypt it . Ive even got a few gig of photos on usenet rared up and encrypted. With usenet retention now hitting 3 years I only have to download it once every 3 years then just add to it and reup it again.

Most the stuff on my pc I could lose and get back when it comes to important stuff theres only text files which is tiny and photos which aint really that big even at high res

A 2000gig is a lot of photos imagine that dying on ya when its even only 10% full

Welshchris 16-04-2011 14:17

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
Well thats what he has bought it was recommended to him by another photographer.

Zing 16-04-2011 15:06

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
And thats his choice still think its a mistake myself specially if he is only saving the data to that drive and nowhere else

I only offer good advice its up to those I speak to whether to take notice or not

Dai 16-04-2011 15:39

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
If he's a professional photographer his library of work is his main asset.

He really should be looking at enterprise-level data protection. Maybe a tape backup would be appropriate?

Welshchris 16-04-2011 19:10

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
Dai i think he does keep DVD backups on Dual layer discs of whats most important.

Zing 16-04-2011 19:13

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
Some dyes go bad over time

Dai 16-04-2011 20:24

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
Indeed they do. I've got DVD and CD backups that are unreadable after less than 5 years.

Sirius 16-04-2011 21:46

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zing (Post 35214123)
I use the cloud now for backups. Not just in one place either in a few

Who do you use ?

Zing 16-04-2011 21:49

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
Adrive and Skydrive and upload to alt.bin.boneless :)

Adrive gives you 50 gig free and allows you to have multiple free accounts

Sirius 16-04-2011 22:14

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zing (Post 35214785)

Adrive gives you 50 gig free and allows you to have multiple free accounts

Nice

Welshchris 16-04-2011 22:36

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
While i have Disks here going back when i first got a 2x CD Writer that still work 10 or 12 years on.

Zing 16-04-2011 23:00

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35214830)
While i have Disks here going back when i first got a 2x CD Writer that still work 10 or 12 years on.

yeah and ive had 500 gig hard drives fail within a couple of days. The nature of electronics and moving parts is sometimes things go wrong. Ive got a quantum fireball still works fine yet ive thrown Maxtors and Seagate's and Samsungs and Western Digitals away over the years.

Good practice is to back up back up and back up and the old adage do not put all your eggs in one basket is true today as its always been

damien c 17-04-2011 13:08

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
Well I have just had 1 of my Samsung 1tb drives fail after 18 months, problem is.it was bought from overclockers.

Welshchris 17-04-2011 13:40

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
RMA to Samsung then.

damien c 17-04-2011 15:07

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35215153)
RMA to Samsung then.

I would but Overclockers did not buy them from Samsung UK, they got them from abroad somewhere.

Samsung here in the UK will not touch the drive so Overclockers have to send them to where they were bought from etc, so I am going to be without that drive for anything up to 2 month's with how long, it takes them to sort stuff out.

Welshchris 17-04-2011 16:01

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
sounds a bit shifty to me. Usually the manufacturers will except them.

Zing 20-04-2011 13:37

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
This might effect you mate. Serious design flaw in the Caviar Greens

http://www.ngohq.com/news/19805-crit...reen-hdds.html

damien c 20-04-2011 13:41

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
That doesn't affect my WD hdd's but interesting information for the OP.

Zing 20-04-2011 13:42

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
I personally do not like the idea of green drives. My efforct to save power is to put my pc into sleep mode instead of leaving it running when I aint at it lol
Vista and win7 by default try and put your drives to sleep after 20 minutes and if you do not disable it they sound like they struggle and the system lags when they wake up . Useless features

Welshchris 21-04-2011 07:05

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
i do have a Samsung drive thats a green type drive they are ok for storage but i wouldnt use them for an O/S boot drive.

I always disable powersaving features in windows as ive witnessed a lot of problems with them in the past

tucker61 21-04-2011 08:53

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
I am looking for a network drive to backup my pc.

I have a 500 gb USB drive currently which windows 7 does not always find, so at least once a week I have to reboot the drive and the pc to start it working again.

Most of my pictures are backed up using the free virgin Vstuff service, but this does not manage to back up everything.

I don't like the skydrive service as this seems to compress the pictures.

Zing 21-04-2011 08:57

Re: What Hard Disk Drive?
 
I use winrar to rar all my photos for back up then upload the rar ( with parity)or in skydrive when you goto add files there is a drop down menu in the top right hand corner select original and it will not compress the pics at all


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