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LexDiamond 04-04-2011 14:34

Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
When customers downgrade their TV package from XL to any of the other packages (and don't pay the sub for recording functionality), can VM just disable the recording capability of the V+ or does the STB need to be replaced?

jb66 04-04-2011 14:43

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
They can disable it.

RobboEdin 04-04-2011 14:45

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
...but you lose HD capability as well as PVR capability if you do not pay the £5 per month V+ charge.

mersey70 04-04-2011 14:47

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35205825)
...but you lose HD capability as well as PVR capability if you do not pay the £5 per month V+ charge.

Indeed, you also lose red button capability.

I have done just what the OP mentions and downgraded to TV M.

LexDiamond 04-04-2011 14:57

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
Thanks. I'm also moving to M tv like Mersey as I have signed up for Sky.

Just to double check, does M still include catch up on demand? Just wondering as I'm not sure it is actually worth keeping the STb just for the M package.

RobboEdin 04-04-2011 15:08

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35205841)
Thanks. I'm also moving to M tv like Mersey as I have signed up for Sky.

Just to double check, does M still include catch up on demand? Just wondering as I'm not sure it is actually worth keeping the STb just for the M package.

Yes you retain catch up. I'm a bit surprised that red button goes since it is available on even the most basic boxes.

LexDiamond 04-04-2011 15:28

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35205855)
Yes you retain catch up. I'm a bit surprised that red button goes since it is available on even the most basic boxes.

Thanks for confirming.

It does sound quite strange that there is no red button. I guess it is probably a way of annoying M customers into moving up to M+.

mersey70 04-04-2011 16:23

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35205870)
Thanks for confirming.

It does sound quite strange that there is no red button. I guess it is probably a way of annoying M customers into moving up to M+.

I think the lack of red button is attached to having V+ disabled so you still will not get basic HD channels or red button on M+ if you don't pay for V+.

At least I think that is the case but maybe someone more technically minded could confirm that. I wonder what will happen if someone has a V+ box that has had recording disabled but they subscribe to Sky Sports, will they not be able to use the upcoming Sky Red Button too?

I doubt it would affect many customers though.

jb66 04-04-2011 17:14

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
Its a "fault" the red button was never intended to go but it does. In those instances a box swap to a regular stb would be required

RobboEdin 04-04-2011 17:22

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35205870)
Thanks for confirming.

It does sound quite strange that there is no red button. I guess it is probably a way of annoying M customers into moving up to M+.

I'll apologise in advance but I would annoy TV M customers much more - by doing away with free TV M and making TV M+ the minimum.

LexDiamond 04-04-2011 17:32

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35205943)
I'll apologise in advance but I would annoy TV M customers much more - by doing away with free TV M and making TV M+ the minimum.

VM only offer it at retentions now so I guess they see it as a marketing tool.

RobboEdin 04-04-2011 17:34

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35205953)
VM only offer it at retentions now so I guess they see it as a marketing tool.

... and I would like it to be even removed from Retentions domain.

jb66 04-04-2011 17:47

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
It saves virgin collecting the box and makes it easy for the customer to upgrade in future

Digital Fanatic 04-04-2011 18:37

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35205905)
I think the lack of red button is attached to having V+ disabled so you still will not get basic HD channels or red button on M+ if you don't pay for V+.

At least I think that is the case but maybe someone more technically minded could confirm that. I wonder what will happen if someone has a V+ box that has had recording disabled but they subscribe to Sky Sports, will they not be able to use the upcoming Sky Red Button too?

I doubt it would affect many customers though.

it's a platform fault that needs an upgrade. The TV Team are going to fix this in the next software update, sometime in June I believe as part of the UK download.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35205870)
Thanks for confirming.

It does sound quite strange that there is no red button. I guess it is probably a way of annoying M customers into moving up to M+.

.

RobboEdin 04-04-2011 19:08

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35205964)
It saves virgin collecting the box and makes it easy for the customer to upgrade in future

I appreciate that that is the reason always quoted but I happen to think that counterproductive.

muppetman11 04-04-2011 19:13

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35206040)
I appreciate that that is the reason always quoted but I happen to think that counterproductive.

Surely the customer can still order PPV content as well so maybe extra revenue potential.

LexDiamond 04-04-2011 22:25

Re: Can the + recording function be disabled by VM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35206000)
it's a platform fault that needs an upgrade. The TV Team are going to fix this in the next software update, sometime in June I believe as part of the UK download.

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Thanks for the info :tu:


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