Will you take TIVO one the email that you got today?
 

On the emails that have been sent out today will you take the deal or leave it (please one vote and also one post to state why you will or will not )

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Reading reviews of it, and user comments on here, it sounds very impressive, but the clincher for me is the 1TB hard disk.

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It is good this as what i was thinking was to ask someone to try and pass this on to VM but i have got 4 votes and one comment, So not really good to pass on?

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It's a fairly even spread of votes so far. Will be interesting to see how this develops? I envisage it remaining this way, judging by the mixture of anti and pro TiVo posts on this forum.

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I was seriously considering getting Tivo and would have possibly stretched to £149, but adding the £40 install is just a slap in the face to all of us that have been been left dangling in the wind by VM for the last four months.

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I would love to get one but its just to expensive for me at the moment

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I voted no i wont, i really wont pay nearly £200 for this product, we watch a fair bit of telly, but i just cant see a scenario where TiVo would fit into our life, the ability to record and catch up, plus watch films and Footy suits us fine, the bigger hard drive would be good.. but not at silly prices like that.

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This will hopefully put an end to the tedious task of torrenting shows cos I missed the catchup period, then all that irritating remuxing and streaming from PC to ps3.

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I voted no due to being promised for months that VIP customers would be looked after!!!!!!!!!!!! £40 install is an absolute joke!!!!!!

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Im not
They are takin the p**s
Dazgwinn

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Not for me. As mentioned above, the £40 installation fee is a kick in the teeth for all the pre-regs not lucky enough to be amongst the "chosen few". Together with the many features omitted from the early release firmware, I'll wait at least until autumn and see how things have developed by then.

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Will be taking one as I need a bigger hard drive, looking forward to using the new functionality too.

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"Here’s the deal:

1TB TiVo box
£149.95 one-off activation fee exclusively for existing customers (everyone else pays £199.95)
£3 additional monthly fee with TV XL"

I'm still struggling to find this "deal" they are referring to. As far as I can see I'm essentially saving the equivalent of the HD activation fee which I've paid already. I'm not really that disappointed as I'm still to be convinced that Tivo is for me.

It's early days with this vote however so far less than a 3rd of pre-registered customers are looking to take the service. I'm sure these numbers will change however not a strong start. How many pre-registered customers are there? Did I read between 50,000 to 80,000?

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are all people voting pre-regers? Also depends if you're a half glass empty person reading those results, as to me I'd include the "considering" votes as just that... potential buyers. But that's me, the optimist.

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In fact I'm going to hold on a little longer before passing final judgment. I'm sure Virgin are still holding back on a fantastic offer for their VIP customers!

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Unfortunatly it was the £40 installation fee that put me off. £149 activation I could have stretched to but the £40 installation fee on top of the £3 monthly fee just took it too far. I'll stick with what I've got for now.

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I'm assuming all people voting are pre-regers as the vote is aimed at people who received the e-mail from Virgin today. Anyone who didn't receive the e-mail shouldn't really be voting, unless they like messing with voting polls:)

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Please ignore this post as it was *****

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£40 installation fee has put me off so a NO vote for me..

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I think it's interesting enough to leave, it's clear that the "yes" camp is the minority even if you take "considering" as yes. Keep going people!

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~Too expensive to install!

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Well said that is why i changed my previous post:D

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no
I did originally intend to, as want the extra storage, but as I only upgraded from normal Pace box, to Samsung V+ HD box a few months ago, it's too much extra money to spend too soon after paying for the HD box activation etc.

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I think it would be utterly astounding if more than 50% of pre-regers (plus stragglers) for any similar consumer product would actually buy. There has to be a very large % of people signing up just not to miss out on something that might be free. It was never going to be free, so it's unsurprising a lot of people won't follow up their pre-reg interest.

I suspect VM will be happy enough.

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The polls proving one thing even though a good product the cost to most people is to high.

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Are Virgin seriously expecting people to pay £199.95 + £40 installation for this?

Good job they sent out the emails today, and not tomorrow........

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Like others have said earlier, although 40pounds isn't a lot of money.
When it's lumped on top of the activation charge, that to me is a lot of money.
(Retired worker, not yet receiving gov pension)
Maybe the activation charge could be spread out, thus paying the activation + installation charges over say 6months?

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Does anyone know if this price for new customers includes HD activation?

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Thats the post I was waiting for, As they would be able to spread it over the 12 month contract E.G. £149+£40 = £189 and then divided by 12 months = £15.75 pm or as you say £149 up-front and then £40 divided by 12 month with a £1/2 surcharge for this?

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From a previous post i think that the HD activation is in the charge:D

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Sky are expecting people to pay £250 for a 1TB hard drive with no additional functionality over free Sky+HD box, that's even crazier!

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Agreed but they do offer a free Sky+HD box which records 60 hrs HD which is ample for the majority.

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Voted 'No' for reasons I added on Tivo Thread

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Putting it like that, TiVo will cost additional £18.75 per month for first year, then £3 per month after that. Sounds a sweeter deal than I thought, considering I saved not far off that last year through retentions, and Sky+HD was going to cost me £10 more than VM for a lesser service.

Keep talking, this is good ammunition to convince the misses!

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Voted yes. Am disappointed with the offer after having to wait for so long, but I want a nice shiny new Tivo :)

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My thoughts exactly and I think a "comparable" package from Sky including this might even save circa £10 a month (okay not entirely primarily no ESPN unlike XL which is a strong plus point for Virgin vs Sky). Although BT seems to offer ESPN for a one off fee.

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80 hours gets zapped on my V+ with the few HD channels they have. Can't see that working on the 50+ HD channels with Sky.

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Plus with VM in year one as a new customer you have to pay an HD activation charge

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20 hrs on V+ in HD mate , 80 hrs is SD.

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Just say the first part of it over 18 months (just lie about the last 6 months) £189/18 months = £10.50 + the £3 Tivo charge and that is the last i can come up with:(

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Not with TIVO as the HD activation is included:D:D

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The deal Sky quoted me: 6 pack, Sky+HD, 10-20Mb bb "unlimited", unlimited phone, caller display, anytime+, 60gb box £58.75.

That's certainly not £10 cheaper than VM, in fact £10 more. Although comparable as you suggest is hard to compare, as you get more channels on sky, but no on demand (the clincher for my family).

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The way I read it the standard Sky+HD can do 60 hours HD so triple the V+ which would be a big improvement, if I've got that wrong please shout!

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You should work in the government :-)

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My bill for Virgin is about £54 a month with the latest price increase, with the package I looked at I didn't take into account unlimited phone/broadband as I don't believe my circumstances require those which cuts about £12.50 off of your quote and comes to £46 apparently.

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I was a pre reg and did not get this email today. If I did the answer would be not interested, why sorry I just don't think it is worth it £200 for a clever piece of software and a 1TB hard drive!

The leap it tech advancement is not enough for me to invest, it is nowhere near the difference between when I upgraded from a standard V box to V+ with HD activation!

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No your are correct 60 hrs HD recording on sky+Hd box


http://www.sky.com/shop/high-definition/home/hd-FAQs/

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Epic confused moment. Still, £250 for a 1TB hard disk is robbery.

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What part the Chancellor :erm:

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Ouch, £54. Sorry, maybe I should shut up.

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Agreed mate I haven't got a 1TB Hard drive as I don't need it , 60 hrs HD is easily enough for my needs. Don't forget the sky+hd 1tb records 240 hrs HD compared to about 110 hrs on TiVo.

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A big No from me.2months ago I might have paid up for it. That went when they started to give it away. Then they were promising the wonderfull special deal. After people have been so patient with them they get let down at the last hurdle by todays email. These activation charges and install charges are a joke.
I don't think of myself as a loyal customer anymore. I shall change supplier at my whim in the future depending purely on price and service. This is after nearly 20yrs on cable.
Plus as I already pay them over £100 a month for VIP50 I think they are getting enough. You have to draw the line somewhere.

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£200 for a box you never own? I think not. How long before the bugs are sorted? Look at the Superhub?

Dont start with the warranty issues, Sky will normally repair/replace a faulty box if you cancel because if it.

Give them 6 months, they will be charging new customers £99 with free installation/activation.

I can see the posts on here now....

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I think you're right, maybe longer than 6 months, but price will drop and be much more competitive. But as with all high end consumer products, the early adopters pay the higher price, and rightly so.

Count me in (sucker that I am).

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Seems fair to me, I am happy not to own the box and have VM replace it if it fails. Various posts seem to indicate that an engineer install is required, someone has to pay for that time, so why should i expect it for free?

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I'm considering it but would have hoped that it would have been a better offer for top tier customers

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True they could say have it for free and then charge you x amount of money to come out after 12 months?

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Straight No from me at that crazy price.

They're rethinking the pricing though so I hope they take this chance to offer us a truly 'special price'.

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Stephen told me they weren't they were just releasing prices for people on lower packages

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I'm on VIP50. I have a V+ box in the living room, and a Vbox in the bedroom. If I decide to get Tivo, and keep the other 2 boxes will Virgin for the £40.00 install fee do the following for me:

1. Install Tivo into the living room, replacing the V+ box?
2. Move the V+ box into the bedroom, replacing the Vbox?
3. Move the Vbox in the bedroom to my other bedroom up in the loft? Virgin would need to run cables up there as I've never had a box up there before.

I'd imagine this would be okay as I've already paid install fees for the 2 boxes I currently have, and would be paying a 3rd for Tivo.

It was my birthday 2 days ago and the Mrs. just asked if I'd like Tivo!!!

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Not at £150 and they got my name wrong in the email.

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Happy to pay the £149, but not the £40 install - will wait for Christmas, and get it as a prezzie.

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Yeah just noticed that they've called me Dean in my e-mail.

"Our exclusive pre-sale event for the 1TB box is only available to you. Think of it as a little ‘thank you’ from us for being a Virgin Media customer..."

So who are Virgin talking to in their e-mail, Dean or me?

Talk about treating me, and by the sound of things many others as just another face in the crowd. Is this an early April fools joke or do Virgin think everyone is called Dean:confused:

It's another fine mess they've gotten themselves into:D

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Are you a Sky employee!!

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If you don't order now, but decide to at a later date when they are taking orders from new customers, will you still be able to get it for the £149 (assuming the price hasn't been revised), or will you have to pay the £199?

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Just paid out £149 to swap out my 2 old standard V boxes for V+, which me and the rest of the family are finding more than adequate for the amount of TV we watch.

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Yeah, and now I'm away to phone the Samaritans:p::D

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Just got another e-mail from Virgin that starts as follows:

"Hello Charles,

We're sorry about the last email we sent you! We know you're not called Dean. Here's your real update on getting our TiVo® service."

I thought sweeeeeeeeet, it was all just a prank including their totally BS pricing. When I scrolled down however the prices are the same:(

I'm joining SKY, who's with me?:rolleyes:

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Too much to fork out at the moment for what appears to be a good box. But what`s the point of having a Ferrari when you don`t have petrol to run it. Until there is more content, either streaming or on demand, i`m going to stick with my V+ box for now.

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There's the full iplayer, with the same content as the online - no more waiting for VM to update.. it needs better integration IMO though. It looks like they're planning to integrate it properly though as they've (just today I think) removed the VM links from the catchup EPG for BBC*.

Would be nice if the likes of lovefilm or blockbuster were on there.. time will tell. The VM CEO talks about Tivo being a platform/media hub so there's certainly the will to push it as far as it'll go - OTOH having heard similar from other companies I'll wait to see what happens first..


* That's always assuming they wouldn't do something moronic like removing the catchup links and not replacing them with anything...

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I would have been with you, if Sky weren't £10/month more expensive for comparable service to my VM package, and I didn't have to get a BT line put in, and if Anytime+ was Anygood, and if they had some kind of roadmap for a TiVo like service (will watch that space after the news article though! Maybe next year...)

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2 people didn't know about TiVo email, but voted anyway... okay...

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I am considering whether £200 is worth it for the extra HD space. Will have another look at what Sky offer but wont change phone or broadband. 30Mb compared with most likely <5Mb and would need BT phone line reinstated is no brainer.

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As many others have said £150 'activation' (pressing a few buttons) and £40 install (engineer visit & plug it in) is just too much.

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as it is I'm content to wait till TIVO is the natural replacement for V+. I am not prepared to pay for it as I don't see it bringing anything extra that I really need.

That is a personal choice of course.

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That seems a pretty sensible stance, one which I suspect the vast majority of average customers will follow.

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You need to work whats best for you my package with sky for TV is 10.00 more than with VM , but that's because I added ESPN but I got 90.00 through quidco so thats 9 months extra tenner paid , plus a 50.00 m and s voucher :D

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But it's worth remembering that Sky had Tivo years ago and canned it in favour of a more mainstream piece of kit which has proven to be a pretty smart move. More people have Sky+ in the UK than have Tivo in the whole world.

The Sky kit does everything most people want it to, as does V+. Tivo is a techies dream but is it Average Joes?

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i have been looking forward to tivo since pre reg. on day 1, but the £40 activation fee rules it out for me. i complained about the 'dean' e-mail & got a reply from cindy rose saying it was just 'human error'
maybe so, but it's all been a bit of a shambles.

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No intention of moving to TIVO at the price VM are offering it for, don't see a need to move as we are happy with the V+ Box we have and I can think of better things to spend £149+£40+£3 on.

I guess at some stage in the future TIVO will replace the V+ Box or the price will drop significantly, so will wait and see what happens.

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At that price, I'll pass.

What I really do want though is extra recording space - that is my current top priority. The V+ just isn't big enough. And the only thing in between V+ and TiVo is another provider at the moment (or an against T&C's HD upgrade)

Big gap in VM's offering from where I'm sitting

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As advised by VM staff on here they are going on a 'HD shopping spree' although that was mentioned in February.

Perhaps they are waiting for the January sales to pick up some discounted bargains ;)

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Will be waiting for the price to come down. Don't feel that this is a 'special' deal at all, especially considering most people who have already got it installed didn't have to pay the £40.
Also, as the red button facility isn't likely to be implemented until September and I am a tennis fan, I'll stick with V+ for Wimbledon. I think I'd rather wait for all the bugs/niggles to be ironed out before I get it anyway and the pricing has just firmed up my decision to wait.

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Can't justify ANY pay TV package at the moment, money has to go on other things, but if the day came then I would definitely consider the VM TiVO.

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A definite No!!
As I am already on VIP50 and find the V+ box adequate for my needs, the big plus being the 3 tuners in the V+, (Tivo only 2 tuners) at present.
I am away a lot at weekends so even with the TIvo's + points I can not justified the £149 + £40 and the £3.00pm increase.
Maybe later on in the year.

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Tivo had the third tuner activated a couple of weeks back now. It can record three at the same time as well.

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I am tempted to go for it - mostly for the bigger hard drive - but at the moment I have my priorities in the wrong order, and prefer to spend my money on food, petrol and tax on petrol.

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You missed out the tax on the tax on petrol ;)

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Thanks for that bit of information but it is still too expensive given the current climate

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sorry i won't be taking the deal - simply cost's too much, then they charge you for install, and then they charge for having it each week.

so no tivo for me

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Again tempted; but the install charge is a step too far.

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I was going to get a Tivo and happily pay £149 but now that VM want another 40 quid im having serious doubts as to wether I wait for a bit. I think the install charge is bad enough but to pay it
for a piece of equipment that still has issues however few they may be is just ripping the mick.

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I am sure I read on hear a little while ago the Tivo box does not upscale as well as the V+ boxes. Considering their are not that many channels in HD just yet, this is a key factor for me. Also taking into account and the upfront costs, plus the extra monthly subscription charges, plus the price rises to other services, its a big no from me.

Which is a shame because I was very keen when I first found out about Tivo.

Must say the timing is very poor with the price increase and them still wanting an installation charge.

I don't have an issue with never owning the box as it is useless for any other provider and hassle free if / when it breaksdown

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You make good points for the present situation, but when YouView launches next year, with online video services, sky plus will be way out of date. Tivo is at least 12 months ahead of Youview and VM will have Youview services, plus others. unless Sky have another box in development, they are in danger of being left behind.

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I am not sure how you come to that conclusion as Sky's current box is providing online, on demand content now. Thousands of hours worth too.

They do not need to develop another box but they may well do.

Sky have never been left behind by competitors, on the contrary.

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Hasn't the Sky+HD box got remote record on android , blackberry , iPhone/iPod, an iPad sky+ app which I believe on the next update will be able to series link , double as a remote and view your recordings on your planner so it's not the dinosaur you think.

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Youview, have loads of online video sources coming on board (a lot of them announced this week with more to come) and Sky+, as it stands, doesn't have the functionality to access those.

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Sky will not get left behind, they have the content that VM does not. Until VM start adding content there is no way Sky will be left behind.
TiVo will be a good piece of kit once all the niggles are sorted out, but it is only a box that delivers content.

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I know, Sky have been announced as a content partner of YouView.

Virgin have nothing whatsoever to do with YouView.

I accept VM already have network catch up, indeed that is the only reason I retain a VM TV service but things may well change with the content Sky provides, no one really knows.

But to suggest Sky will struggle to compete on the content front with YouView is ludicrous, YouView need Sky not the other way around. I am sure they will relish the battle.

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I voted no reluctantly

We would like Tivo and been waiting in anticipation...but this is too much money.

I hoped long term customers who preregistered would get a good deal to adopt early...but £200 isn't a good deal.

If we'd have got a good deal we would have told others we know who are thinking about joining Virgin for the Tivo box. As it is we have told them it is wayyyyy tooooo expensive and avoid it like the plague

Well we will bide our time until Virgin bring the price down to a realistic level...especially knowing they are going to swap everyone over anyway!

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That's why I said "You make good points for the present situation,". Sky is content king the way people watch TV now.

But the way content is being delivered is changing. People are watching content via online sources, and in that respect, Tivo is way ahead of the opposition, including Sky. Now, how long it will take for that to become more popular is hard to say. Apparantly the growth in TV sales is not in 3D sets, but in 'connected' TVs.

I suspect Sky will have another box in development, but when you look at future content delivery, ATM, Sky are behind.

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Let's see if your saying this when the majority are on TIVO and your all streaming content at 7pm at night , I'll stick to it being delivered through my satellite system.

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For me, as well as the £40 install there is the fact the you need XL TV. I'm happy with TV L so paying an extra ~£12 for XL + £3 for TiVO + £190 is probably ruling me out.

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Excellent point and one that is rarely mentioned.

The insistence on XL is a barrier to many, I roughly calculated its around £140 a year more for someone on L to upgrade to XL and well over £200 a year more for someone on M+.

I have read it will be opened up top other tiers eventually and it needs to be, the last thing VM should be doing is being even more restrictive on pricing.

I'm convinced it's the online capabilities that will sell Tivo not the UI so tier of service shouldn't matter. They should look at this sooner rather than later.

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That's why it's good to have a high capacity fibre optic connection, not those ancient telephone wires :D

Connected content will be on top of the normal TV watching, but Youview will have it and Virgin will have it, so sky will need to get it at some stage. I'm sure they will, but those telephone wire broadband speeds (that have to be shared with the rest of the households streaming needs), won't be on their side (compared to Tivo's dedicated 10meg that can be upped to 20meg) download speed.