World's largest paedophile ring smashed
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12762333

Excellent news!

Apparently the UK suspects include police officers, youth leaders and teachers with an age range of 17-82. I know I shouldn't be surprised to learn that but somehow I always am. It's doubly tragic when professional people who enjoy the trust of children are involved.

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OK, it's only a tiny fraction amongst the good people in these professions but surely it's inevitable.

If you've a sweet tooth then you can't beat working in a chocolate factory..

And yes, I'm still a fan of public hanging and flogging.

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My son's and daughter's head of year at their secondary school is currently in prison for offences against students in his care.

I was stunned as were they..They both thought he was a stand up teacher especially my son who was bullied constantly and was protected by this man.

It just goes to show that all the CRBs and layers of protection that are set up are no protection in the end and it's only luck and the bravery of the individuals affected who come forward to expose what has happened to them that seem to work.:(

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Excellent news indeed. As so much of their sick actions are carried out through their Internet connections I hope that each of those arrested will provide the links to even more of their degenerate fellow paedophiles.

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CRBs are only of any use in protecting kids, if the abuser has already been caught.

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Not true. An enhanced CRB check (Enhanced Disclosure in Scotland) can draw on police intelligence, not just actual convictions.

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Police intelligence? :LOL:

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Police intelligence being we suspect he fiddles with kids but we haven't got around to investigating him yet?

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No ... suspicions that don't amount to evidence that would stand up in court. There was plenty of it in the Ian Huntly case, for example. The problem there was that none of it was kept and put together so that anybody might say "I don't care if he's never committed a paedophile offence, there is cause for concern here so I'm not going to employ him as a school caretaker".

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Where there? I always presumed there was no suspicions around him, otherwise wouldn't he have been investigated earlier on?

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He was investigated on more than one occasion by more than one police force. But none of the concerns, individually, ever amounted to grounds for a prosecution. Unfortunately the intelligence not only went un-shared, it was IIRC erased in a number of cases.

There was a major lost opportunity to spot and take account of a long-term pattern of concerning behaviour. This was addressed by the Bichard inquiry, post-Soham, which in turn gave rise to the new SVG (PVG in Scotland) legislation. Sadly, in drafting the SVG Act, the Labour government used a sledgehammer to crack the nut and devised a scheme under which just about everyone who ever sneezed in the general direction of a child would have to become registered and subject to permanent monitoring. The Coalition has wisely reined things back but this has caused an inevitable delay.

Meanwhile in Scotland the equivalen PVG Act is going live this year and is a far less intrusive implementation of the same Bichard recommendations.

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lets hope they all get their 'rings' smashed open whilst in prison.....

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IIRC, the problem was the Data Protection Act. The Police did not share the info because they thought that as he was only suspected, his personal information was protected by the DPA.

The problem was that previous governments (not just Labour) have wanted to appear to be solving a percieved problem, and thanks mainly to cases like Huntley's (and the hype generated), paedophilia was percieved by the public to be a massive problem. While the problem is bad, I don't think it's nearly as bad as the public believed.

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Fantastic they have been caught shame we don't have a death penalty for each and everyone one of them i cannot think of a sicker crime then adults abusing children and the world would be a far better place if we got shot of them as we found them.

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I feel as this is smashed the pieces will be rebuilt into yet another awefull site.

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Excellent news that so many have been caught but alarming that there can be so many people out there into that.
I just cant think how people could ever think that way. It's sick.

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Yeah, it does make me glad that I can't even begin to imagine the thought processes they must have.

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Well surprise surprise, police officers....... well that not hardly shocking, maybe some MP's in the future perhaps?

This problem of the above is not bigger that it was years ago, just the press blows the whole subject out of whack every-time time. They can't even get there English grammar right on the words they use to describe the different manner of action or non actions. From the real people who do the physical harm to the thinkers only, with matter above in ones mind - there's a big difference between the two, but still labelled the same. It's in the English dictionary for peat sakes :dozey:
The best child/overall protection is, better understanding our greatest fears & distrusts in the public today other than what others may think about each other. Fear & quick judgement is the biggest mistake that any body can do in this world.
Children today have it to easy, are too much wrapped in cotton wool from the word go to there are push out into the big bad world - it ready to swallow them whole, to re-brain wash them with the government wants to tell them to do in there life.

There my view point > Toonlight

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There is a saying about people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.Your posting could been better if you had used a dictionary and applied some punctuation.

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Yes,paedo coppers exist... some probably use drugs,beat their wives or are otherwise corrupted.What's your point?
for a moment there I thought you're a teacher,Maggy ;)

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Now look who's talking ....:o: I was stating a error made by the national press, when a child case comes up -goody two shoes :dunce:


toonlight

---------- Post added at 22:43 ---------- Previous post was at 22:38 ----------

Well we are all the same, for a better society - we need to understand our human-selfs more, than before we pass judgement onto others for whatever reasons they me be good or bad. We all red blooded, driven to mate & expand our life full potential, where the lines are - ain't for any government/body to make in the first place. :rolleyes:

toonlight

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Unless they know about all the others, how do they know it was the largest ?

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wtf is a 'repile'?

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:)

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i reciently reported a site to the police myself which was a german site and the person claimed it was "Art" on his site and basically what it showed was pics and paintings of young boys posing naked.

I was looking at tips on Photography sites as my health has gotten so bad i can no longer do my IT so i want a hobby so it then took me onto Photography and art and thats how it came about. What was worrying the site was like an eblogger site and it didnt have any report facilities on their site, i had to search on google and took a good 20 mins to find out how to report to them which i did and i had an email back stating it had been taken down after i told them i had reported it to the police. The worrying thing was when i was on the phone to the police he asked if i could report it to the admins and i said i didnt see any facilites and he asked if i could log back onto the site and have a look on the page. I said no chance because no offence i dont really wish to spend any time looking a such material.

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It's the largest so far uncovered.

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As much as it is excellent news.

230 abused children is not. :(

They should put all these horrible ***** in a big ring.. with a minigun in the middle and set it on a loop