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the reason why Black Ops is not running properly for me?

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I doubt it as others have no problem.

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Sorry I meant NOT.

I'm trying to find out if I need Virgin to take a look at my broadband settings.

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Not what?

Do you mean "Is Virgin's new (?) P2P poilcy not the reason why Black Ops is not running properly for me? "

Or do you mean something completely different that only you know of?

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Sorry, yes.

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Then correct it is not the reason.

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I kinda thought it wasn't but on the Black Ops forum they reckon it's my internet settings and my ISP is blocking ports

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it wont be Virgin blocking ports because they dont do that anyway, they only throttle (reduce) the speed on ports used for p2p stuff and they specifically say that gaming isnt affected.

It is more likely that it isnt getting through your router properly so I would take a look at your port forwarding if I were you.

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I've put the PS3 in DMZ, which as I understand it means all ports are open(?)

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I thought it was widely acknowledged that online Black Ops for the PS3 was pretty bad so I doubt it is your Internet connection. Just Google Black Ops PS3 issues.

I play on the 360 and in the main the game plays fine.

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Yeah, trust me, I know how bad it is. But some people are insisting they are having no problems so I'm just wondering if it could be something some ISP's are doing.

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Virgin don't block Ports. NTL blocked some ports that are commonly used by Windows for various services, but the PS3 should be ignoring these, otherwise it's likely the PS3 would not work well with any PCs the may have on the same network.

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I have my own theory on this, in fact several theories.

1. The PS3 Black Ops game servers/port sucks butt, and as yet is still broken, and nobody is willing to take ownership of the problem.

2. The game just can't for what ever reason deal with certain internet connections, ie high jitter.

3. Sony wont tip up enough dosh to get the same level of support that Microsoft do.

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Okay, thanks.

I kinda know it's not my broadband but some people are adamant it's gotta be.

Why do Americans think we don't have fast broadband available?

Didn't get a reply after posting this ;)

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so ur going to blame sony for activisions game? for activision giving a 3rd party company the servers? for sony not putting money up for something that will make them no money what so ever? Look if we still cant get in game chat i dont think sony give 2 s***s about taking servers form money grabbing *******s.

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You do realise that if your unlucky enough to get in a game hosted by Americans your almost guaranteed to get owned, not because your a bad player necessarily, but its the way console games connect to one another.

So when you return to the lobby at the end of a game after a good old pummelling, we moan like old dears blaming our crappy broadband speeds causing the problem.

When in reality its just the host that always gets an unfair advantage

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Being host in Black Hops does not give you an advantage, trust me, I end up being the host a lot. You actually end up disadvantaged!!

Also I have my game search set for locale only which does seem to be working now, so don't get in games with Americans too often.

I just thought it was worth a shot and someone may have said do this or that.

I did drop my MTU from 1500 to 1478 and disabled SPI, which I saw on here somewhere that did give me slightly better download speeds and yes I did do a few tests ;)

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Interesting you say the host gets disadvantaged, I would tend to disagree based on my experience so would you care to expand a little more.

I tried the MTU tweak several times dropping in increments of 10, from 1500 down to 1300 and never noticed a discernible difference in gaming.

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I believe VM block windows sharing ports? for security reasons.

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They were too busy laughing at your upload. At 50Mb in the US the upload is no less than 5Mb and on the main cableco 10. ;)

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Since Virgin Media is comprised of ntl:Telewest and Virgin Mobile, and:

NTL block ports
Telewest block ports
Virgin Mobile block ports

I'd say Virgin definitely do block ports.

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there is problems with black ops server for sure on both consoles as i get lag quite a few times a night on the xbox it suppose to change host straight away and as usual it doesn't.

i had a game last night and the fella was making the game lag badly but he wouldn't leave the lobby cheating tit m8 it was worse when map packs came out all the little booster from MW2 and cheats and most of them are kids

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I rarely have issue now with my games on Black Ops I must be lucky

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I don't play black ops, I must be lucky :P

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This might help.....
http://community.eu.playstation.com/.../td-p/10655314

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Hi, newbie here.

Having some probs with VM and gaming and came across this post via google.

It sure does seem to affect gaming. Black Ops on the PS3 is unplayable between 5pm and midnight weekdays and for about 12 hours a day on Saturday & Sunday on VM (in my area) at the moment.

Pretty much as soon as it hits 5pm I go from hosting & playing in 4 bar 'green' lobbies all nice and smooth (as far as cod goes online...) to 1 red dot or 2 yellow bars, can't run through doorways without getting dragged back through and stuck in a corner, can't throw grenades, this is if I'm lucky enough to get on the PSN at all.

It can't be coincidence that it's the same time every day, the same time they moderate p2p traffic.

It's a shame because the service is excellent at non peak times.

Hosting is 50/50 in my experience - good host/bad host.

Bad host is when the games smooth as you like but nobody you shoot dies and you end up getting about 2 kills and 18 assists in a standard tdm, it's lag compensation (compensating a bit too much!) according to gaming sites.

Have a lovely day.

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The host is indeed at a disadvantage on black ops based on the way that the game works out lag compensation. 3Arc implemented this so as to give all gamers a more or less identical bullet reg, but the host seems to get additional forced delay for some unknown reason. Many many people complain about this on the official forums.

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VM don't throttle gaming, only p2p traffic because it sucks up so much bandwidth and I am sure they would argue that this is the reason why they instigated traffic shapping and throttling; to free bandwidth up for peeps like you to game and the fact that you are still having the issue only serves to further re-inforce their ideology.

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Fair enough and I wont argue with the fact that many may well complain on the official forums, but from my experience when host, I frequently get chance to return fire when being shot in the back, and frequently say to myself "they should have killed me easily", maybe that's just lag on their part, I dunno.

I can only comment on my own experience.

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VM don't intentionally throttle gaming, but have accidentally done so in the past.

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I'm not sure if its intentional or not but I tried downloading 3 games via xbox live at the weekend at different times and downloads were absolutely crawling down, I would say on a par with my old BT 2 meg connection.

I used to be able to download a 1 gig demo in about 6 or 7 minutes, now after 5 minutes a 1.06 Gig demo reaches 4% so I just cancel it and found something smaller.

One can only presume VM are really restricting this now.

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Could just be due to congestion.

I get Infinity installed next month and will be running both side by side and cancel the one which performs worst. (wonder which one?)

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Possible I suppose but it didn't feel like it, everything else felt ok, web pages loading ok, wife gaming on laptop with no issues.

Now you mention it, I did notice when I went to watch a HD trailer the xbox returned a message about insufficient bandwidth or something along those lines.



I wouldn't mind trying Infinity just out of curiosity but not an option at the moment, let us know how you get on pip.

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Will do. Install is set for 4th April, only real reason I've gone for it is the free line install (worth £130) and the increased upload as that matters more than download for my uses.

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Depends what game mode you're playing. In hardcore, unless the player is extremely crap, their first or 2nd shot will kill you before you get chance.

In core, it takes 3 or more depending on their accuracy, so you'll get more chance to do that i suppose.

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World of Warcraft?

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Nah, Bejewelled Blitz :erm:

:D

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Surely you should've said World of Witchcraft!:D:D:D

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Oh dear god. :D