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Arthurgray50@blu 12-02-2011 20:56

Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Here is a good question, and to be honest l am not happy with the present situation with VM.

We had a v+BOX WITH hd installed, and were told by the sales assistant that the box would give HD quality picture This has been going great until a few days ago when we suddenly found that the box is no longer giving out HD quality picture even though we have the right set etc.

Can someone tell me if there is something wrong with the system

Lew 12-02-2011 21:08

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
I've split this off to its own thread.

Digital Fanatic 12-02-2011 22:45

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35173175)
Here is a good question, and to be honest l am not happy with the present situation with VM.

We had a v+BOX WITH hd installed, and were told by the sales assistant that the box would give HD quality picture This has been going great until a few days ago when we suddenly found that the box is no longer giving out HD quality picture even though we have the right set etc.

Can someone tell me if there is something wrong with the system

What do you mean? Are you not getting the HD channels or is the picture quality poor?

Hugh 12-02-2011 22:50

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
And is the TV connected to the V+ box with a HDMI cable (and has it always been)?

Arthurgray50@blu 13-02-2011 13:41

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
The quality of the HD picture is as though it is SD, and everything is connected correctly, we did have probs with the box a couple of days ago, but no way is it a HD picture.

jb66 13-02-2011 14:14

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Check the box is set to hdmi 1080 and check the tv is actually on HDMI and not scart

Arthurgray50@blu 13-02-2011 14:21

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
That has been done, but the picture is still like SD.

WooLLsterQ 13-02-2011 14:31

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Do you have a scart in at the same time? And when you set the stb to hdmi are you pressing "Text" to save the setting?

What are you watching and what channel is it on for you to say it is "SD"?

multiskilled 13-02-2011 14:33

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
You are watching on a HD channel, ie 108 rather than 101 for bbc1, also is the programme in HD and not just up scaled SD.

Arthurgray50@blu 13-02-2011 19:34

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
What we do is go to the HD page, choose a channel, and then go to that channel in SD, and to me the picture is not sharpe enough for HD quality.

:(

devilincarnate 13-02-2011 19:37

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35173784)
What we do is go to the HD page, choose a channel, and then go to that channel in SD, and to me the picture is not sharpe enough for HD quality.

:(

So if you are going to the HD page and then going to the SD version of that channel that is why you are not getting the HD quality:erm:

arcimedes 13-02-2011 19:43

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35173791)
So if you are going to the HD page and then going to the SD version of that channel that is why you are not getting the HD quality:erm:

Or are you comparing the SD channel version with the HD channel version and not seeing any difference? And are sure that the programme is an HD transmission.

Please give an example of a programme

Arthurgray50@blu 13-02-2011 21:45

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
I was watching the football on ESPN, and did a test of difference between the channels of HD and on SD, no difference.

I tried BBC1 in SD and then BBC1HD still no difference.

HD to me is where you get the sharper picture, when l purchased my HD set, l was shown the difference and on VM HD, over several weeks, there has been no difference.:(

Hugh 13-02-2011 21:55

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Arthur, you stated earlier that "everything is connected correctly" - is there a HDMI cable connecting the TV and the V+ box?

HDMI cable ends.
http://www.playstation3hdmicable.com/images/hdmi2.jpg

Arthurgray50@blu 13-02-2011 22:18

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Yes as per your picture

mhatter67 13-02-2011 22:27

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35173905)
Yes as per your picture

If you have a Samsung V+ box does it say HDTV on the front of the display when you select a HD channel?

Hugh 13-02-2011 22:31

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35173905)
Yes as per your picture

Thank you - and have you selected "HDMI1" as your input on your TV remote control?

WooLLsterQ 13-02-2011 22:53

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WooLLsterQ (Post 35173573)
Do you have a scart in at the same time? And when you set the stb to hdmi are you pressing "Text" to save the setting?

What are you watching and what channel is it on for you to say it is "SD"?

There is an absolute difference in SD and the channels HD counterpart, somewhere somehow you are setup wrong.......We need more info!!!

---------- Post added at 22:53 ---------- Previous post was at 22:45 ----------

So we are sure:

You go into settings and change source to HDMI and screen to 720i wide or 1080i wide press ok, then ok to confirm change, screen goes blank for a few seconds then asks you to press "TEXT" to confirm. Press "TEXT" to confirm.

You select "input/source" on TV (not virgin) remote and change to corresponding HDMI input that your V+ is connected to. If you have a scart connect at the same time disconnect this, if picture goes blank you are still on scart source.

savvychels 13-02-2011 23:54

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
I may get shot down for this, but oftentimes I find that because the upscaling on the V+ is so good there isn't as huge a difference between the SD and HD channels as there would be between HD and SD from different sources.

arcimedes 14-02-2011 07:19

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by savvychels (Post 35173978)
I may get shot down for this, but oftentimes I find that because the upscaling on the V+ is so good there isn't as huge a difference between the SD and HD channels as there would be between HD and SD from different sources.

Absolutely agree. Also you will find that some programmes made in HD such as Lark Rise to Candleford have a soft image so the difference between SD and HD is less pronounced. The best channel to try is Eurosport where the SD is often so bad that the HD version really stands out, try tennis in HD the test is that you can set the net is resolved to its individual starnds.

oliver1948uk 14-02-2011 10:55

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Arthur, would you say your SD picture is of a high standard?

I agree with savvy and arcimedes: the V+ does such a good job of upscaling the SD picture (with HDMI cobnnection) that often there is little or no noticeable difference on the equivalent HD channel.

WooLLsterQ 14-02-2011 11:38

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
You need to make sure what you are watching in HD is actual HD and not upscaled, to do this just press "info" when watching a HD program and at the bottom of the info page it should have [HD] displayed like this, if not it's upscaled.

Arthurgray50@blu 14-02-2011 14:48

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Just read this on the VM information, that to get HD channels, you need them to be activated by VM at a cost.

BUT, l was advised that as l have a V+BOX WITH HD, then it would not cost anymore.

And as said in previous comment, everything was fine till a couple of days ago.:(

devilincarnate 14-02-2011 15:00

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35174290)
Just read this on the VM information, that to get HD channels, you need them to be activated by VM at a cost.

BUT, l was advised that as l have a V+BOX WITH HD, then it would not cost anymore.

And as said in previous comment, everything was fine till a couple of days ago.:(

When you go to a HD channel are you able to view it as if you are the HD has been activated :confused:

WooLLsterQ 14-02-2011 15:02

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
When you view HD channels in your "TV Guide" are they in grey or white lettering?

Arthurgray50@blu 14-02-2011 15:22

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Example; We went to ESPN HD and it is in WHITE, but SKY SPORTS HD is GREY.

WooLLsterQ 14-02-2011 15:39

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Anything grey you don't receive because it's not in your subscription.

spiderplant 14-02-2011 19:21

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35174326)
Example; We went to ESPN HD and it is in WHITE, but SKY SPORTS HD is GREY.

OK, so you subscribe to ESPN HD, and not Sky Sports HD.

Do you have a SCART lead connected between the V+ and TV as well as the HDMI? Quite a lot of people think they are using HDMI but actually their TV uses the SCART in preference. Unplug the SCART to make sure.

And what display settings do you have selected on the V+?

arcimedes 15-02-2011 09:30

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35173886)
I was watching the football on ESPN, and did a test of difference between the channels of HD and on SD, no difference.

I tried BBC1 in SD and then BBC1HD still no difference.

HD to me is where you get the sharper picture, when l purchased my HD set, l was shown the difference and on VM HD, over several weeks, there has been no difference.:(

Are you absolutely that they were being transmitted as HD?

Telford240 15-02-2011 14:07

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
This happened to me, My Sky Sports HD picture was flat, it turned out to be a my HDMI cable, changed it and bam, everything HD again :-)

Jonnymeg 15-02-2011 21:49

Re: Loss of HD picture on V+ box
 
Be sure that you are actually watching a HD broadcast. Not all show shown on the HD channels are truely in HD.
Look at channel 187, bbc hd as this is HD 24/7

You can check if a show is being broadcast in HD by pressing the info button 'i'. If in the synopsis it reads [HD] then you should see a better picture.

Also, as posted, check your connection. Pull out any scart leads to be sure you are not watching that.
Check that in your system settings menu / display and audio / that your setting read HDMI and 1080i.


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