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telfordcable 04-02-2011 12:43

New Traffic Management updated
 
New Traffic management for customers with faster uploads:
http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...r-uploads.html

New Traffic management for customers with slower uploads:
http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...nt-policy.html

Sirius 04-02-2011 12:44

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35166717)
New Traffic management for customers with faster uploads:
http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...r-uploads.html

New Traffic management for customers with slower uploads:
http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...nt-policy.html

Both links dont work for me and to be honest i cannot be botherd with it as all it will say is we are reducing you speed so live with it. :mad:

telfordcable 04-02-2011 12:54

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
The link are now work, thanks as I had now updated the url link correctly.

pip08456 04-02-2011 14:36

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35166719)
Both links dont work for me and to be honest i cannot be botherd with it as all it will say is we are reducing you speed so live with it. :mad:

For once, he's right!

Chrysalis 04-02-2011 14:37

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
interesting uplifted customers have a more restrictive downstream STM.

on a service that is expected to be mostly downloading, they can download and upload the same amount during the evenings.

pip08456 04-02-2011 15:29

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Most congestion has, until recently, been on the upload. What happens now since upgrade of 20Mb to 30Mb remains to be seen. Channel bonding should make things better though.

qasdfdsaq 04-02-2011 15:30

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Very interesting, I wonder what reasoning they have for this.

Chrysalis 04-02-2011 15:40

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35166867)
Most congestion has, until recently, been on the upload. What happens now since upgrade of 20Mb to 30Mb remains to be seen. Channel bonding should make things better though.

yep but that upload STM looks incredibly generous for VM considering their upstream congestion, and that it matches the downstream limit as well makes it stand out.

qasdfdsaq 04-02-2011 15:49

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
I'm guessing it must be a mistake, or someone insanely stupid was put in charge of the STM.

Zaim7890 04-02-2011 16:23

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35166717)
New Traffic management for customers with faster uploads:
http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...r-uploads.html

New Traffic management for customers with slower uploads:
http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...nt-policy.html

Hmm, afew days ago the down stream limit for 30mbit was 5gb now its down to 4.2gb. :confused:

pip08456 04-02-2011 16:28

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
You are quoting 2 different STM's The first is for those with the upstream uplift, the second is for those who don't have it yet.

That could be the reason for the difference.

Zaim7890 04-02-2011 16:33

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35166935)
You are quoting 2 different STM's The first is for those with the upstream uplift, the second is for those who don't have it yet.

That could be the reason for the difference.

Lol just noticed that it's different, i'm pretty sure before i phoned up 2 days ago to have mine upgraded it said 5gb for 3mb ul.

qasdfdsaq 04-02-2011 16:52

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35166935)
You are quoting 2 different STM's The first is for those with the upstream uplift, the second is for those who don't have it yet.

That could be the reason for the difference.

Except it isn't.

The previous page (a few days ago) only showed caps for people with the upstream uplift. It's now been updated with data for those without upstream uplift, but those with upstream uplift have had their downstream cap *reduced*.

Chrysalis said, downstream cap for people with improved upstream is now actually lower than those without.

[Edit]
Confirmed, see google cache here:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...w.google.co.uk

2 days ago caps for people with upstream uplift were 5000 down, 4200 up. Now it's 4200 in both directions.

Zaim7890 04-02-2011 17:20

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35166982)
Except it isn't.

The previous page (a few days ago) only showed caps for people with the upstream uplift. It's now been updated with data for those without upstream uplift, but those with upstream uplift have had their downstream cap *reduced*.

Chrysalis said, downstream cap for people with improved upstream is now actually lower than those without.

[Edit]
Confirmed, see google cache here:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...w.google.co.uk

2 days ago caps for people with upstream uplift were 5000 down, 4200 up. Now it's 4200 in both directions.

I knew i was right, i don't understand why increasing the upload speed requires them to increase the cap for download. :confused:

telfordcable 04-02-2011 17:22

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
I quite happy with download 10Gb (10am to 3pm) with 4.2Gb in evening (4pm to 9pm) and upload is fair play at 4.2Gb (3pm to 8pm)

Unlimited is from 3pm to 4pm (download only) and between 21:01 and 09:59 7 days a week (both download and upload)

So 10GB (download) and 4.2Gb (upload) is fair traffic management on time slots.

Hugh 04-02-2011 21:07

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35167039)
I quite happy with download 10Gb (10am to 3pm) with 4.2Gb in evening (4pm to 9pm) and upload is fair play at 4.2Gb (3pm to 8pm)

Unlimited is from 3pm to 4pm (download only) and between 21:01 and 09:59 7 days a week (both download and upload)

So 10GB (download) and 4.2Gb (upload) is fair traffic management on time slots.

Who are you, and what have you done with telfordcable???:shocked:

qasdfdsaq 04-02-2011 21:18

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Someone hacked his account for the good of mankind.

Down the Pub 04-02-2011 21:36

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35167326)
Someone hacked his account for the good of mankind.


seems like forced rendition is still active then, and this is an impostor :D



........................he didn't email obama after a few pints and a donner - telling him he was a knob did he? :LOL:

jtaylor06 04-02-2011 21:58

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
telfordcable,
Is everything okay?
Are you ill?

I'm worried now ;)

Peter_ 05-02-2011 05:17

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35167039)
I quite happy with download 10Gb (10am to 3pm) with 4.2Gb in evening (4pm to 9pm) and upload is fair play at 4.2Gb (3pm to 8pm)

Unlimited is from 3pm to 4pm (download only) and between 21:01 and 09:59 7 days a week (both download and upload)

So 10GB (download) and 4.2Gb (upload) is fair traffic management on time slots.

You are not quite in character so are you feeling OK.:D

Ignitionnet 05-02-2011 07:19

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Wonder what planet this traffic management is from. Customers in non-upload upgraded areas have higher downstream allowance during the evening than those in upgraded areas, 5GB vs 4.2GB, and in upgraded areas it's the same allowance upstream as downstream.

No wonder capacity planning is so shot if they think the network can handle the same capacity drain upstream as down.

Tazz 23-02-2011 21:24

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
I got it confirmed by Mark Wilkin on the VM forums that the 30Mb DS allowances are correct.

Why would they give more when your upload speed has not been increased then when you get your upload speed increased they lower it. Are virgin intentionally trying to annoy their customers?

Chrysalis 23-02-2011 23:40

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
it defenitly shows they incompetant on network management, as that upload figure is very high. STM is flawed anyway as in the person is only marked for 5 hours so can repeat the next day and that it takes many hours of uploading before it kicks in.

tuckeratlarge 23-02-2011 23:48

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
So me on 50Mb/5Mb only gets STMed on uploads of over 6gigs!

I thought to myself - "Whose going to upload over 6gigs in one session?" then it occurred to me - backups. But you don't backup over 6gigs everyday so the STM for the XXL is just lip service to the rest of the tiers to show they are doing it across the board.

Yay. Still a great service, and not getting a price increase in April.

mikkyh 24-02-2011 00:10

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35167039)
I quite happy with download 10Gb (10am to 3pm) with 4.2Gb in evening (4pm to 9pm) and upload is fair play at 4.2Gb (3pm to 8pm)

Unlimited is from 3pm to 4pm (download only) and between 21:01 and 09:59 7 days a week (both download and upload)

So 10GB (download) and 4.2Gb (upload) is fair traffic management on time slots.

+1. It's completely fair, I don't see why people complain. They need to do some traffic management or surely the congestion will cause more problems anyway ?

watzizname 24-02-2011 16:57

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Given how pants the upload speed has always (until recently anyway) been with this ISP, and that they can see how folk have been using the improved upload, they're probably hoping it'll be a minority of customers that will actually bother to cane it.

I for one am happy to be in the minority :D

broadbandking 24-02-2011 20:42

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35167039)
I quite happy with download 10Gb (10am to 3pm) with 4.2Gb in evening (4pm to 9pm) and upload is fair play at 4.2Gb (3pm to 8pm)

Unlimited is from 3pm to 4pm (download only) and between 21:01 and 09:59 7 days a week (both download and upload)

So 10GB (download) and 4.2Gb (upload) is fair traffic management on time slots.

I never throught I would say this but I agree with TC here

Tazz 03-03-2011 18:32

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
VM need to ensure that the correct information is given as it is confusing their customers: both links below are for the upgraded areas.

One shows 4200MB for 30Mb and the other shows 5000MB as I suspect it should be rather than getting less once upgraded seems mad:

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/tm-table-fu-large.jpg <<< shows 5000MB DS allowance

http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...r-uploads.html <<< <<< shows 4200MB DS allowance

Both are essentially the same table for faster uploads...

I have sent a PM to Mark_Wilkin on the VM forums for clarification on this

qasdfdsaq 03-03-2011 18:51

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
It's already been clarified. The reduced 4200MB allowance is correct.

SOSAGES 03-03-2011 21:11

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Hi Guys,

Im on XXL (50MB) and have been since it was out in my area (rg12)
I got a letter this week from Virgin due to "detrimental use of your broadband connection"
i called up and they couldnt offer me any advice in terms of limits etc as it all depends how many people are connected in my area
so one day i could download 100GB and not bother anyone
the next day download 5GB and get another letter.

The only reason i hit the cap was i was moving a lot of files from an online backup solution to my new NAS and as i was going away for the weekend i set it going and left the house.
I asked if the dates i were away are what generated the letter and they said they couldnt say but did say i used it a lot in that time.
all this is just downloading.
So going by the charts linked in this thread i shouldnt have a limit..or am i reading it wrong? normally i am a good boy and have been for 11 years since getting a cable modem.
I purchased a

telfordcable 04-03-2011 14:36

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
I am still ok and well. No complaint here from myself. :)

pabscars 04-03-2011 14:41

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35186847)
I am still ok and well. No complaint here from myself. :)

Look on the bright side, there's always next week ;)

telfordcable 04-03-2011 20:23

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Go to this website: http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband/up-to-100mb.html and enter post code TF7 5PB and number 40 and it say on the site: Broadband: Superfast, reliable broadband up to 100Mb

Telford area is now ready 100Meg to order! :)

Hugh 04-03-2011 20:28

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Excellent - that means you will be able to get it soon.

---------- Post added at 21:28 ---------- Previous post was at 21:24 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35187134)
Go to this website: http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband/up-to-100mb.html and enter post code TF7 5PB and it say on the site: Broadband: Superfast, reliable broadband up to 100Mb

Telford area is now ready 100Meg to order! :)

You do realise that you have just informed the world where you live (as that post code covers a small part of one street.....)

telfordcable 04-03-2011 20:30

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35187135)
Excellent - that means you will be able to get it soon.

Yes indeed. I spoken to relations team on the phone as they say all Telford coverage area's will be 100% complete by Friday, 18th March 2011 and ready to order on Monday, 21st March 2011.

---------- Post added at 21:30 ---------- Previous post was at 21:28 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35187135)
Excellent - that means you will be able to get it soon.

---------- Post added at 21:28 ---------- Previous post was at 21:24 ----------


You do realise that you have just informed the world where you live (as that post code covers a small part of one street.....)

Actually I don't live in that post code! I just make it up just in case they won't find where I live :)

qasdfdsaq 04-03-2011 21:48

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35187135)
Excellent - that means you will be able to get it soon.

---------- Post added at 21:28 ---------- Previous post was at 21:24 ----------


You do realise that you have just informed the world where you live (as that post code covers a small part of one street.....)

Funny, I'm sure he said he already got 100mb a month ago...

Sirius 04-03-2011 22:02

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35187139)

Actually I don't live in that post code! I just make it up just in case they won't find where I live :)

Funny because there's a bridge by one of those houses :)

Peter_ 04-03-2011 22:07

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35187187)
Funny, I'm sure he said he already got 100mb a month ago...

He cancelled when I posted that it was not yet available in Telford and that even if available he would be lucky to get it the following week and the date was probably this month, hence his new post.;):D

craigj2k12 05-03-2011 07:57

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
...telford you bumhole

SOSAGES 05-03-2011 09:37

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Hi,

could anyone confirm for me if i should of had a letter about detrimental use of my 50mb connection as per my previous post.

thanks in advance

Ignitionnet 05-03-2011 11:16

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
That would be a yes - the policy you got nailed on is nothing to do with the traffic management limits.

telfordcable 05-03-2011 14:19

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35187291)
...telford you bumhole

why ? oh dear me ! do you want me to keep my mouth shut ? :erm::erm::erm:

qasdfdsaq 05-03-2011 14:21

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Well, duh. Obviously. How'd you figure that one out.

Ignitionnet 05-03-2011 15:00

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35187476)
why ? oh dear me ! do you want me to keep my mouth shut ? :erm::erm::erm:

Given the orifice you usually talk out of I'm not sure keeping your mouth shut would achieve much.

qasdfdsaq 05-03-2011 15:05

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Lmao.

jtaylor06 05-03-2011 15:43

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35187197)
Funny because there's a bridge by one of those houses :)

Ahh Woodside, home to a street with a funny name!

Google Streetview

If you do a search on Urban Dictionary (or even Google) containing the first word in that street name, you will find another bridge worth having a few laughs at ;)

telfordcable 05-03-2011 16:07

Re: New Traffic Management updated
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35187567)
Ahh Woodside, home to a street with a funny name!

Google Streetview

If you do a search on Urban Dictionary (or even Google) containing the first word in that street name, you will find another bridge worth having a few laughs at ;)

I live nearby there! Nice area and nice house of mine! :)

I live here: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=TF7+...,0.118876&z=14


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