ITV1+1 For Legal Reasons This Program cannot be shown
 

Does anybody know why or not notice Star Wars was not shown on ITV1 +1 on saturday, "for legal resons this program cannot be broadcast" so the channel was blank until the film ended. :confused:

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funny that, we had the same thing on ITV net player when trying to watch corry street

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I think it's got something to do with how ITV purchased the right to show the movie. They maybe only purchased the right to show it once and the +1 channels would count as another showing.

Maybe somebody else can confirm or otherwise?

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Noticed on the EPG that (sky) was written after the program name, maybe only sky subscribers were able to view it.

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Yes I also noticed sky on the mini guide after I now pronounce you chuck and larry

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but corry street has nothing to with sky

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Probably the contracts for those programs have channel restrictions on them.. ITV1+1 is a seperate channel to ITV1 so until the contracts to show the shows are redone they can't legally show them

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IIRC broadcasters buy rights to films for a set period, covering number of showings and also the way they're shown. ITV most likely has an existing contract for showing Star Wars that doesn't include re-broadcast on a +1 service, as they most likely didn't think they'd need that when they signed it.

It's not at all unusual for programming not directly made by, or commissioned by, a broadcaster to be withheld from its online catch-up service, but if that happened with Coronation Street recently I'd suspect it was an error.

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So had I wanted to watch star wars on the +1 channel my viewing would have been totally ruined, how many other +1 channels does this happen to , I also dont understand how the +1 is a seperate company when it supposedly screens an identical channel one hour later. Is this happening because its new.

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Give it time.. Contracts are not done days or weeks in advance but months and years.. Ch4 and E4 had exactly the same issue when they first started, now everything on C4/E4 is repeated on the +1 channels

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This always happens when new services are set up. Contracts simply take time to catch up. ITV1+1 is not a separate company but it is a separate channel within the definitions of contracts like these.

For example, you never used to be able to watch the English FA Cup Final live on BBC1 Scotland because the existing broadcast rights didn't extend to Scotland at the time the full regionalised digital service was launched. AFAIK they have now resolved that.

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You just assume everything works, slightly offtopic on BBCHD you sometimes get "this program cannot be broadcast in your area", which seems to come at the end of a program and before the start of the next. It then shows the BBCHD screen with programs will continue shortly, whats that all about.It seems to just cut out adverts of programs coming up later in the day or week.

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That only happens on BBC One HD, not BBC HD, and only when local news is on as BBC One HD isn't regional unlike it's SD counterpart.

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probably find once the new astra satellites launch bbc will launch regional variants of bbc one hd

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Much the same as when BBC1 first appeared on digital satellite - there were no regional variations back then. IIRC it is still not possible to regionalise BBC2 to the same extent as they used to on analogue.

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Ours says Gra/Bdr whch I assume indicates the Granada/Border feed followed by Sky. Maybe they are using the same feed as Sky as I read it says the same on their EPG.

The programmes are not available on Sky, Freesat or Freeview either.

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yer i notice this as well i was flicking trough 1 of the nights this week it was about 2 in the morning and it said this.

ive never seen this message befor on any tv channel.

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The first step would be for the EPG to correctly reflect this situation, in order to avoid the strong possibility of people planning to view/record the +1 channel and finding the recording not there.

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Sorry did mean BBC one HD of coarse, forgot all about BBCHD.

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I got it for the first time today on ITV +1 at half time in the football before and after the ads on Freeview, which has already been paid for by our TV licence thank you very much, so they don't really have the authority to do such obnoxious things to their paying customers. Did anyone else get it tonight or know why it happened at all?

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Except that ITV is funded by adverts not the TV License. TV license funds the BBC.

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technically yes, but try watching it without one.

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You would be breaking the law. None of the funds go to ITV.

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Just watch it on catchup, no licence needed.

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From the TV Licencing Website
Exception: If you only watch catch-up services online, then you don’t need a licence. For example, you don’t need one to use BBC iPlayer, or ITV player, to catch up on programmes after they have been shown on TV.

The key word here is "online" only, so not through Sky box or Virgin etc

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Their website is misleading and wrong. You only legally need a tv license to watch or record a programme as it is being broadcast. So streaming online or through a box is irrelevant. The problem is even though this is the case, if you told them that you only watch catchup through the various types of box they are likely not to believe you. Legally it is ok though

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Why is this obnoxious? Is it not merely the betting odds ads which are useless and unavailable one hour after they were shown as the live game was over....

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I believe they will also say you need a TV licence if you own a device that is capable of receiving a colour TV broadcast. As a Cable or Satellite TV box would be. At the very least, with a Cable TV box and an active subscription it would be extremely difficult to prove you didn't watch live TV. After all, it's not just a case of detuning the box or cutting something inside to prevent reception.

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Isn't it for the Beeb to prove that you did watch live TV, not for the viewer to prove he didn't? If you have a good explanation that they cannot disprove, surely the ball is in their court?

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If you have a tv subscription then it would be hard to prove you don't watch tv, even if you only use it to listen to the radio channels and stream catchup tv. It's no easier to prove you only watch catchup even without a subscription though. I got my parents a little box that just streams content like the catchup, which has no tuner so in theory a better scenario than the cable/sat box yet at the same time the licence lot will try and say you have a tv connected and that tv can receive it.

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It is. You don't have to talk to the tv licence guys at all, or let them in your house or enter in to any correspondence with them. If they see a flashing light from your property, they have to prove it was live tv rather than a DVD or catchup tv. They have never convicted anyone of dodging or not paying the tv licence based on detector van evidence, because they don't use them.

Even if you only watch catchup or dvd's etc, they will still harass you. If you don't talk to them at all, you save yourself the hassle they will give you for whatever you say.

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my thoughts exactly; Channel 4 do the same for the racing as 9/10 its a betting live update its eems perfectly reasonable not to get the wrong idea in case they forgotten they are watching timeshift.

One of my friends did work for a betting company and a person did phone up wanting a bet on the tennis which was a repeat from the previous day. Upon telling the customer its not live (as he argued its said sky sports exclusive) the customer ask is there a market for those who havent seen the match....

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Shame the Roulette doesn't show on +1 :) $$$$$$$$