BBC HD - Eastenders
 

Just out of curiosity! Is Eastenders suppose to be broadcasting in HD? It's a good picture but doesn't appear to be HD to me!!

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Yeah, 1st HD episode was broadcast on Xmas day.

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I think most of it is in HD - but I agree some scenes seem a bit upscaled - perhaps in the sets which aren't quiet HD ready they're still using old cameras?

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No they would use the same equipment for filming everything.

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ye its hd look at jessie wallace god shes rough :)

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Usually BBC HD is pretty bloody good IMO but Corrie HD knocks posts off EE HD... And i don;t even watch them :p

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Yes, if you compare Eastenders to Corri, the quality and sharpness is so much better, hence the question!!! It just seems upscaled to me:confused:!

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It's probably more down to the notorious low bitrate of BBC HD over ITV HD

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You dont need HD for that :D;)

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I did notice, when I was at my Mum's last week (I don't watch soaps usually - just need to stress that :) ) that after Christmas Day EastEnders didn't have the BBC One HD dog. I took that as an indication that maybe it wasn't in HD - and it didn't look as good (this was on $ky).

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on the Sky HD box settings menu you can choose to highlight HD broadcasts. Once highlighted, the program info bit for HD broadcasts will be shown in orange rather than white.

Amazing how much non HD stuff channels like 5 HD show.

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is that because $KY subscribers need to be told as they wouldnt notice ;)

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It's just the satellite feed that has a lower bitrate. Virgin Media get the BBC HD channels raw, direct by fibre from the BBC.

Isn't EE filmed months in advance anyway? So the xmas episode was probably HD, but episodes you are seeing now may have been filmed earlier?

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Not really. Most of the TV programmes produced until now have been SD programmes (HD wasn't even an option until the mid 90s). Even now, the only country producing a lot of HD is the US, and while the US is a huge producer of TV, they are far from the only one. A lot of countries still only have SD TV. Even in both this country and the US, a lot of production and TV companies are not equipped for HD due to the cost (the consumer only has to replace their TV and STB, the production companies will have to upgrade cameras, editing computers, video recorders not to mention both data and electrical networks connecting that lot - this is one major reason why the BBC is moving out of Television Centre as it would cost too much to fully upgrade). In short, if you upgrade to HD, it might cost a couple of thousand pounds. If a production company upgrades, it will cost them more than ten times that.

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How much of the increased bitrate is negated by the fact VM encode in MPEG2 rather than the more efficient MPEG4 used on Sky/Freeview HD?

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Mnay people over on DS be they DTT, satellite or cable viewers don't seem to be impressed with Eastenders in HD.

I cannot see much difference myself but it is a bit clearer (and we now have a new 46" set so it's not because of our older 32" TV being too small.

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MPEG4 is more efficient use of bandwith, but both should give the same end result as far as picture quality.

It's well known that the satellite feed has a lower bitrate to begin with from the BBC, this has made a few people complain on satellite about the picture quality of BBC HD channels.

---------- Post added at 15:16 ---------- Previous post was at 15:14 ----------

I don't watch EE, but i think my post earlier may explain?

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Actually I underestimated the costs for production companies there. Factoring in the costs of the cameras (which can cost anywhere from £2,500 to over £100,000), even a small production company probably wouldn't see much change from £250,000. Larger production companies may well spend over £1m, or even £10m.

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No it is definitely in HD, it simply isn't very good that's all but it seems the same on all platforms.

I would agree with an earlier poster that Coronation Street seems to have a far better picture.

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Even on Christmas Day, EE didn't look great. I watched it then and couldn't tell any major difference from the upscaled pictures on BBC1HD over the last month or so. Agreed that Coronation Street (from the limited bits I've seen) looks much better. Not convinced it's a BBC1HD bitrate effect, plenty of stuff on there looks great, just seems that the source material is iffy.

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I think you are right as The Royle Family was noticably better on BBC One HD than SD.

And although a terrible show Come Fly With Me, which is on now is much sharper in HD, still not amazing though in my opinion.

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Martin Clunes on ITV1 HD looks sharp

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Yeah it does, but I have got to say overall with HD it's a bit of a letdown for me. It is certainly better than SD but just isn't as good as I expected but I think my expectations were too high given the hype and the '5 times the detail' flannel.

I haven't witnessed the surround sound yet though, that's why I am so keen for Sky Arts HD as that is the only channel that would make me invest in a decent amp.

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can't stand the program personally but my missus watches it (eastenders) and it looks a lot better on hd freeview than virgin hd. the best hd i seen on my telly though was the cricket over xmas (sammy v+ box) looked amazing on sly sports1 hd

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BBC One HD is generally good but Eastenders sucks both pq and content LOL :-)

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Well, surprise! Eastenders seems to have improved today and you can actually see that it's HD, still not as good quality as Coronation Street though:o: Just turned that knob up a little bit more BBC & we may have a HD content as goos as your other programes :-)

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D'you know something? I watched EE in HD t'other day. First thing I saw was a close up of Ricky.. Was in shock for the rest of the ep..

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Yes, he was :shocking:

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BBC One HD picture quality is awful in my opinion.