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parkie 02-01-2011 20:35
Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
I have a Virgin Media Hub upstairs and want to connect my TV and Printer which are downstairs to my wireless network. what do I need? My printer has an ethernet port so no need for a dedicated print server. I'm getting confused between an access point and a bridge. Can someone tell me exactly what would work in this situation? What would you recommend

cheers

p

progers 02-01-2011 20:44
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
I use a cheap router, Edimax BR 6574N from e-buyer as a Universal Bridge to connect my TV, Blu Ray player with ethernet and laptop downstairs wirelessly.

A bit tricky to set up but works well

jrhnewark 06-01-2011 00:36
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Sounds like you need two wireless bridges. The printer needs to connect to an ethernet-to-wireless bridge.

Does the TV have an ethernet port?

vanman 06-01-2011 11:23
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by parkie (Post 35146444)
I have a Virgin Media Hub upstairs and want to connect my TV and Printer which are downstairs to my wireless network. what do I need? My printer has an ethernet port so no need for a dedicated print server. I'm getting confused between an access point and a bridge. Can someone tell me exactly what would work in this situation? What would you recommend

cheers

p
best to go this way http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-pl-85pe-mk2.htm

jrhnewark 06-01-2011 12:10
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35148040)
Expensive and they cause a lot of radio interference. Stick to WiFi if you can.

vanman 06-01-2011 12:33
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrhnewark (Post 35148063)
Expensive and they cause a lot of radio interference. Stick to WiFi if you can.
OP HAS NO WiFi ON PRINTER
Quote:
My printer has an ethernet port

TheNorm 06-01-2011 12:41
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35148040)
Or even their 1gig adapters if you want to be assured of good throughput, or have multiple users:

http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-gig-index.htm

jrhnewark 06-01-2011 13:35
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35148040)
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35148078)
OP HAS NO WiFi ON PRINTER
And I suggested a solution to that.

vanman 06-01-2011 14:34
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrhnewark (Post 35148113)
And I suggested a solution to that.
ok i am sorry but explain how to make a ethernet-to-wireless bridge.

Stuart 06-01-2011 14:45
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
The simplest (though not cheapest) option is probably http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=475112

But, generally if you are using a router (which will be a cheaper option), you need to disable DHCP (essentially disabling the "router' part of the router and just using it as a switch).

vanman 06-01-2011 14:56
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35148163)
The simplest (though not cheapest) option is probably http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=475112

But, generally if you are using a router (which will be a cheaper option), you need to disable DHCP (essentially disabling the "router' part of the router and just using it as a switch).
but surely this is cheaper http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-pl-85pe-mk2.htm
£36.50
each twin pack
and easier to set up
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrhnewark (Post 35148063)
and they cause a lot of radio interference.
its a printer do that matter

jrhnewark 07-01-2011 00:13
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35148155)
ok i am sorry but explain how to make a ethernet-to-wireless bridge.
You don't make one, you buy one from Maplin (above) or your favourite online retailer.

Quote:
Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35148169)
its a printer do that matter
The word you're looking for, if I'm not being impolite, is *does*.

I meant interference by using your whole mains system as an antenna for all the rogue Radio Frequency carriers those IP-over-mains things give off - i.e. interference to all your neighbours, not to your printer.

Stuart 07-01-2011 00:47
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35148169)
I did say that my option was not the cheapest, but was the simplest, and it is, especially if (as I have seen in a few friend's houses), your mains sockets are not that accessible.

jrhnewark 07-01-2011 00:54
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35148539)
I did say that my option was not the cheapest, but was the simplest, and it is, especially if (as I have seen in a few friend's houses), your mains sockets are not that accessible.
Actually (aside from the fact I hate 'powerline' kit), I've just bought one of those Netgear bits of kit from Maplin that you linked to above to get my Slingbox onto my wireless network instead of running CAT5.

Works a treat - and both the Netgear device and the Slingbox get their own IP addresses via DHCP. :)

vanman 07-01-2011 01:08
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrhnewark (Post 35148528)
You don't make one, you buy one from Maplin (above) or your favourite online retailer.

The word you're looking for, if I'm not being impolite, is *does*.

I meant interference by using your whole mains system as an antenna for all the rogue Radio Frequency carriers those IP-over-mains things give off - i.e. interference to all your neighbours, not to your printer.
thanks for that i was not aware of that .have you any links of evidence of this ?
or is it just your opinion.
as for *does* .
if i wanted to say *does* i would have wrote *does*
and not do that .

jrhnewark 07-01-2011 01:15
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35148543)
thanks for that i was not aware of that .have you any links of evidence of this ?
or is it just your opinion.
as for *does* .
if i wanted to say *does* i would have wrote *does*
and not do that .
Written, but anyway. I'll try and dig out a link in the morning - it's not based on opinion, spectrum analysers don't have opinions! Basically, these things splatter all the way up from 2MHz (comms that the military use) all the way up through the shortwave spectrum (3-26MHz) and far beyond.

If you've got any shortwave listeners or radio amateurs in your neighbourhood, you'll have some pretty grumpy neighbours!

Stuart 07-01-2011 01:17
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35148543)
thanks for that i was not aware of that .have you any links of evidence of this ?
or is it just your opinion.
as for *does* .
if i wanted to say *does* i would have wrote *does*
and not do that .
But "do" in that context doesn't make sense to me.


Anyhow, as for evidence, how about OFCOM's view?

jrhnewark 07-01-2011 01:44
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35148551)
Anyhow, as for evidence, how about OFCOM's view?
Ah, thanks! That's more useful than anything I was looking to dig out - good old El Reg! :)

vanman 07-01-2011 01:57
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35148551)
But "do" in that context doesn't make sense to me.


Anyhow, as for evidence, how about OFCOM's view?
ah thanks for that .

Quote:
Has Ofcom investigated PLT equipment?
Yes. Ofcom has exercised its enforcement functions under the EMC Regulations. Ofcom has investigated alleged breaches of the EMC regulations resulting from the supply of Comtrend PLT apparatus by BT.
What has Ofcom found?
On the evidence, Ofcom has not so far found that there is a breach of the EMC essential requirements. Ofcom has therefore decided against taking further enforcement action at this time. Ofcom is working together with Comtrend and BT to reduce any negative effects in individual cases and we support them in doing so.
It is recognised that EMC compliant equipment may still, in certain circumstances, have the capacity to cause interference to other radio communications equipment. This may happen due to the manner in which it is installed or operated.
Evaluating the complaints received and the evidence so far obtained, Ofcom has concluded that there does not at present appear to be significant public harm arising from this situation.
with around 750,000 Pairs of equipment estimated to be in use in the UK today.
Over the past 12 months Ofcom has received 143 individual PLT interference complaints; all from radio enthusiasts. Of these 121 have been investigated and referred to the apparatus supplier who has resolved 104. The solutions employed include replacing the apparatus, hard wiring and conventional wireless alternatives.
All of the complaints relate to the inability to receive radio transmissions in the High Frequency (HF) band (3 to 30MHz).
There are many other users of the HF Band including long range aeronautical and oceanic communications, the Ministry of Defence and international broadcasters. Ofcom has not received complaints of interference to these services
http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/enf...forcement/plt/

jrhnewark 07-01-2011 02:24
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with the wireless bridge if you've already got Wi-Fi - so why support a technology that is, for want of a better term, pants?

Stuart 07-01-2011 02:45
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35148558)
The thing is ,you have quoted a report where OFCOM have tested a particular make of PLT kit, and provided a link to another make. I believe that even radio hams will agree that some makes of PLT kit are better than others.

Most currently available kit works on frquencies that generally only affect radio hams (as noted by OFCOM in the report you link). The gigabit stuff operates from about .1 to 300 MHz. Indeed, when the video in that article worked, it included a demonstration of a Belkin Gigabit adapter doing a good job of wiping out FM reception in the area. If you are found doing that repeatedly, you run the risk of a visit from OFCOM.

parkie 09-01-2011 01:07
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
well for better or for worse I've got hold of an Edimax Br6574n router as suggested but I'm having a hell of a job getting it working. does anyone know of any good walk throughs for this kind of setup. or have i bought the wrong thing for the job? hope you can help, it's doing my head in a bit.

p

vanman 09-01-2011 02:11
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35148040)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNorm (Post 35148082)
Or even their 1gig adapters if you want to be assured of good throughput, or have multiple users:

http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-gig-index.htm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35148163)
The simplest (though not cheapest) option is probably http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=475112

But, generally if you are using a router (which will be a cheaper option), you need to disable DHCP (essentially disabling the "router' part of the router and just using it as a switch).
Quote:
Originally Posted by parkie (Post 35149538)
well for better or for worse I've got hold of an Edimax Br6574n router as suggested but I'm having a hell of a job getting it working. does anyone know of any good walk throughs for this kind of setup. or have i bought the wrong thing for the job? hope you can help, it's doing my head in a bit.

p
yep you want any of the three of the above.
but not a router as the hub is your router

parkie 09-01-2011 16:51
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
having googled this, I know it's possible with what I have, it's configuring it correctly that is proving difficult. can anyone help? are there tutorials anywhere?

p

Matth 09-01-2011 19:05
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
At a brief glance, I'd say point to point bridge (or WDS bridge, if your other router has WDS)

progers 09-01-2011 19:11
Re: Wireless Bridge for printer and TV?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by parkie (Post 35149827)
having googled this, I know it's possible with what I have, it's configuring it correctly that is proving difficult. can anyone help? are there tutorials anywhere?

p
Sent you a PM with details


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