F1 2010/11 closed/pre season discussion
 

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Seems Hulkenberg wont have a drive at Williams next season. Seems a shame after Williams had made some progress throughout the year but I guess it comes down to money.

Any thoughts if another team may pick him up?

http://www.anf1blog.com/2010/11/hulk...iams-for-2011/

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Think next season could be really up in the air. We have KERS coming back and also Pirelli tyres. The new tyres are a bit of an unknown and we might find some cars just don't work on the properly at first and others do.

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Rubens Barrichello gets to stay at Williams for 2011.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9190652.stm

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Lotus has kept it's two drivers

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9244045.stm

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Webber was crocked for last four races of the season

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9260822.stm

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fair play to Webber he isn't blaming that on losing the title but you have to wonder how much of an effect it had

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Apparently there is now some fall out within the team as he did not tell them he was crock, or that he was writing a book.

I think that team needs to find itself and get some team spirit and trust I think McLaren have really come along in this respect this year.

There is still every chance that there could be two Lotus teams on the grid next year :confused: . Renault are looking to sign a title sponsorship deal with Group Lotus to be Lotus Renault, yet Tony Fernandez has registered his team as Lotus Racing again.

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I would have thought common decency would have led to Mark telling his team

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The problem with Mark telling the team that he was injured is that he already had concerns about team orders and if you tell them you have an injury, there is even more risk that they would favour the other driver over you.

Shouldn't matter as in the end Vettel won and Red Bull got the team championship.

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convenient.

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It's official now. Renault are now only an engine and technology partner to the team formally known as Renault F1. They have a seven year deal with Group Lotus (Proton) to run as Lotus Renault GP in Black and Gold Livery:).

http://my.renaultf1.com/profiles/blo...ng-new-era-for

There are still stories that Tony Fernandez is going to run his team as Lotus Racing also in a black and gold livery.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/1...s-me/#comments

I though tit would be confusing but we have got used to Red bull & Torro Rosso I suppose

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Interesting new rules for 2013

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Team orders now allowed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9275796.stm

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Think that is sensible. We all know it happened in other teams anyway, now at least they can just be open about it

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So allow people to cheat because a group already do it ??? ;)

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It's a team sport there is nothing wrong with a two car team using tactics. It's always gone in since the sport was invented so I have no problems with team orders

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Agreed, but what hacked me off was the Ferrari Schumi/Barichello shuffle in Austria, it simply was not necessary, it was more the Ruben deserved the victory than anything else. I think if the same thing happened again the FiA would use the bringing the sport into disrepute rule.

By the way Tony Fernandez has gone back to green and yellow for the Team Lotus livery next year, even though they went black and gold first........We will still have four Lotus' on the grid next year though.

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Only part of it is a team sport.. otherwise they wouldn't have a drivers championship instead only a team championship ;)

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New draft regulations for 2013:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9307861.stm

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read about them earlier and really excited. Seems they have come up with something that is really going to work and should help make the cars look good too

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Petrov's just got a new 2 year deal with Renault so their team stays the same drivers wise..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9312847.stm

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Would like to see Paul Di Resta bag a drive next year

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F1 in HD in 2011 :hyper: !! :D Just hope they have decent 5.1 sound as well, you really notice the difference with a half decent surround system.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88873

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Nice and about time to F1 was in HD !

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More good news. JL has been replaced on the BBC commentary team by DC :D

Link to follow

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http://www.silverstone.co.uk/news/la...mmentary-team/

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I was never a fan of JL, be intresting to see how MB copes as full time commentator.

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Anyone going to the british gp?

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If funds allow and holidays don't clash.

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Sorry to say but on full size GP circuits I tend to prefer to watch it on TV.. DO though go to a lot of the smaller tracks for BTCC or other british series

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I went last september for the Renault World Series and will go the the gp this year although I see what you are saying Kymmy. Haven't been to a gp before.

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it's a great experience and I loved my first GP even though I was only young and could barely see anything :D

It is a bit strange as you do spend some time watching it on the big screens to work out what is going on but well worth the effort

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I shall purchase the Soft Pauer timing app that shows track position

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Three brits on the grid confirmed :tu:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9371985.stm

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Nice to see the scot Paul Di Resta getting a drive with Force India

Also tomorrow should see the launch of the first of the F1 2011 cars with Ferrari being first to unviel

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Yeah it looks pretty if not spectacular IMO, than again I bet it will change before the first race.


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89112


A great article from SCARBS speculating how the new 2011 rules could be implemented by the teams.

As a technical journalist he is not often far wrong !! :)

http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/

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Day #1 of testing in Valencia today.. BBC have their usual live update text service covering it

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9383263.stm

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Some nice looking cars :)

Interested to see how Renault's exhaust blown front diffuser works, they said they were doing something radical and no one knows how the exhaust exits as it is hiding :)

getting all excited now

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Check out Scarbs F1.:tu:

http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/

A really good article on the Renault configuration.

Image copyright Craig Scarborough
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/02/130.jpg

Not sure I like the Mercedes nose? I liked the pointy look of the Virgin last year

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Alot seem to be going for quite a high nose.
Can't wait for the Mclaren on Friday but the cars we see now won't look the same come Bahrain.
Only 37 days :)

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Team lotus didn't seem to be at Valencia for day one, but there's a great little vid of them piecing together and starting the new car/engine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfUPxqUsMwg

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Lotus fiasco family tree.:)

Copyright Joe Saward

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/02/146.png

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New MP4-26 McLaren looks great!!!

3d (you will need to install the unity player) http://mclaren.com/2011revealed/

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Looks fab with those 'tetris' style intakes, I like to see something different. Compare it to the Merc and they are both totally different.

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The new McLaren really does look nice, up there with the nicest, let`s hope it`s as quick as it looks good.
Looks like most teams have gone for the high nose with long drop downs to the front wing and most cars look like duck billed platypus :erm:

Reckon the Renault could be a quick car, apparently they have some trick which creates a blown diffuser effect, don`t know if it`s true or not!

Seriously looking forward to the season now...

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Some excellent shots of the McLaren:

http://www.formula1onlive.com/2011/0...0-mclaren.html

http://www.formula1onlive.com/2011/0...-exhausts.html

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check out post 41 on the previous page and then google scarbsf1 for details on the Renault trick exhaust diffuser:)

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Kubica injured in rally crash
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/mobile/...ne/9388940.stm

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Oh the dopey you know what!!!!!

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bad news and hope he is ok. Fair play to him for not just sitting on his money, but actually going out racing when he didn't have to.

He's a classy driving and if the Renault was any good this season he would have been right up there

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Good read, thanks for that :tu:

Speedy recovery for Kubica as well, sounds like a nasty crash!

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Sound like Kubica's F1 career has ended

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9388940.stm

Sad really when a few years ago he walked away from a crash in F1 that a few years ago would have been fatal.

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I bet Jerome D'Ambrosio is kicking himself as he could have inherited Kubica's seat instead of the Virgin

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latest news from Renault(Lotus) is that they are hoping Kubica will be back after the first few races. Sounding more positive that it was earlier today.

Looks like Bruno Senna will start the season according to autosport.

Maybe this will be his chance.........

If he is beaten by Petrov then I think its curtains for his F1 career.

Best wishes to Robert............

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I dont see any way he'll be back this season or ever at all, Talking about a severed hand and depending on what functions he has in his hand it does not sound good given the sport he is in. Shame really but a blessing considering the state of that car, Could have been fatal.

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Yeah I think the situation is clearer today, from what I have read the doctors will need a few more day to confirm if he will be able to keep his hand. This is MUCH worse than it seemed early last night.

Best wishes Robert.

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Renault are quoting out for two months, looks like the hand has gone through surgery OK with a good blood supply now it's just waiting to see if there's been major nerve damage or not.. Sounds like he was lucky..

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You have to ask if it was prudent to be competing in such a high risk sport when all focus should be on the season ahead which has commenced already.
I know Renault agree it was ok and he uses rallying to hone his driving skills but with the pre-season testing underway and with the simulators available to hand I personally would want him on the job so to speak.

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Sounds like he was stuck in the car for over an hour until the right cutting equipment could be brought in :(
This along with the Mark Webber and his bike incident could well make more teams insist on their drivers not doing a lot of activities. Then on the other hand the driver want`s to stay as fit and sharp as possible, is probably an adrenaline junky anyway so where do you draw the line! Simulators are all well and good but are far from the real thing...
I can`t see him racing for 6 months minimum.

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And J P Montoya don't forget with his tennis injury ;)
I still think all attention should be focused on the 2011 season, adrenaline junky or not :)
I know, my avatar is a little clue :)

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On board cam from the car behind Kubica on the stage. 3 mins 15 secs in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALbxM...layer_embedded

Oh my days, Kubica and his co-driver are lucky to be alive!

http://img715.imageshack.us/i/kubica3.png/

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In the photo is the armco simply put in the boot? Do we know for sure it protrudes straight through from the front?

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No mate, it is impaled on the armco.

3d simulation:
http://www.formula1onlive.com/2011/0...rt-kubica.html

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Yeah I since found this 3D visualization

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9goofv0CxAg

Apparently he is having another round of operations on his leg and elbow soon, sounds like he is getting mobility back in his hand which is apparently quite quick for this type of injury. Good Luck RK

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Nick Heidfeld is taking over Kubica's seat for testing.. Would be nice to see him take over for the proper races if any whilst Robert is recovering

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9392434.stm

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Update on Kubica's condition from Autosport.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89370

Kubica has left the intensive care unit and has been moved to the normal ward following another good night He is now scheduled to undergo surgery to his foot and humerus tomorrow morning, before having an elbow operation on Monday. The operations are expected to last around four hours each.

After that, Kubica will return to the intensive care unit for post-surgery course.

Italian media reports that, if all goes well, the Renault driver could be discharged from hospital as early as the end of next week

Sounds about as positive as it could under the circumstances.

Best regards,

Martin

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Ford sues Ferrari over car name. Don't think you'd have any trouble distinguishing them!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12417757

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No, because ferraris are heaps of unrealable crap.

(An old boss had one for 6 months 2 of which having its engine fixed, and he didn't drive it fast.)

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It's actually the new F150 F1 car name they're complaining about... ;)

Now, if your Boss drove one of those on the streets! :D

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the article is out of date already. The car is now called the F-150 Italia and Ferrari will refer to it as that at all times, which it was anyway, and now drop the shorthand F-150.

As Ferrari stated they aren't selling, now ever will sell, the F-150 so not where the problem is to be honest

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I stick by my first statement :D

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Schumacher fastest at Jerez on the second day...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9394255.stm

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Barrichello in the Williams fastest after day 4 of the test.

Good news for the team, they have a really technically innovative low line gear box and rear suspension setup to maximize airflow to the rear wing assembly.

http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/0...wline-gearbox/

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/02/69.jpg

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Time for the poll yet Kymmy pretty much certain Heidfeld is in at Renault, at least for the first half of the season.. ;)

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Guys to save me the trouble can we have a list of the drivers please?? then I'll start a poll thread

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Missing One HRT driver, sorry.

But realistically, will they trouble the scorers ;)

Red Bull Racing-Renault
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Mark Webber
McLaren-Mercedes
3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Jenson Button
Scuderia Ferrari
5. Fernando Alonso
6. Felipe Massa
Mercedes Grand Prix
7. Michael Schumacher
8. Nico Rosberg
Renault F1 Team
9. Nick Heidfeld
10. Vitaly Petrov
Williams-Cosworth
11. Rubens Barrichello
12. Pastor Maldonado
Force India F1 Team-Mercedes
14. Adrian Sutil
15. Paul di Resta
BMW Sauber-Ferrari
16. Kamui Kobayashi
17. Sergio Perez
Scuderia Toro Rosso-Ferrari
18. Sebastien Buemi
19. Jaime Alguersuari
Lotus-Renault
20. Jarno Trulli
21. Heikki Kovalainen
HRT-Cosworth
22. Narain Karthikeyan
23. TBC
Virgin Racing-Cosworth
24. Timo Glock
25. Jerome d’Ambrosio

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I hope the situation in Bahrain clears up, although I doubt it. In the big picture the GP is not that important really is it ?

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HD Video from Red Bull showing the RB7 from unusual camera angles

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/02/2...-show-off-rb7/

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Bahrain GP is off :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9402871.stm

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Formula1.com is releasing the official timing application on Android this year :)

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Full calendar for Outlook here.

Two versions, 1 has just race days, other has full practice, qual and race times.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ar/default.stm

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2 extra weeks without racing.....


NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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BREAKING NEWS - No link yet

Carmaker Daimler completes buy-out of Mercedes GP team

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Re: Formula 1 2010 Season [may contain real time spoilers]
 

Well I was looking forward to the first race of the season but BE cancelled it so the fisrt race will be in Australia.

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Well Bernie has lost the plot yet again.

What next Bernie "Land mines in the gravel traps, garrote wires appearing at random points".

Why don't he does retire, and leave F1 to people with IQs higher than a class of water.

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Liuzzi is now confirmed as HRT driver, I've updated the voting thread

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9401873.stm

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Fantastic bit of "artwork"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12698820

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fantasy F1 in facebook.

there is a app in face book called fantasy F1 if any wants to join i have created a group cableforum on there http://apps.facebook.com/fantasyfone...php?league=807

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Well I had the fortune of a day at the Williams F1 Centre on Friday.

Wow, wow and wow, that's all I can say.

The museum with all the Williams cars through the years and the trophy cabinet was amazing along with the driver helmets.

If anyone gets a chance to go, do it.

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Please don't go back to ITV!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-squeeze.html

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Well if it goes back to ITV I stop watching.

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So you'd stop watching a sport based on who show's it?? Are you actually a F1 fan then?? :p:

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Vettel has just extended his Red Bull contract another 2 years

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motor...ne/9424199.stm

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Yes because adverts during a race ruin it, there are many sports I love but they don't get any TV coverage.

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Pirelli reveals Formula 1 tyre-identifying markings

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9429326.stm

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silver and white?? Now that will be easy to spot...NOT!!!

Why not change silver to Green ? :rolleyes:

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I missed this bit.

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Sorry I didn't read the full article only the quote :clap:

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Surely F1 viewing figures and overall popularity has risen over the past few years.

With the rise in technology and the display of these state of the art machines, More younger people are becoming more interested than ever. If they want to balance the books then Drop the crap shows or ITV or Sky will pick up on it.