Time Traveller on Mobile Phone in 1920's
 

Just heard this on the radio so checked it out.

It's a really interesting clip, and I can't explain what the woman is doing.

I just have 1 question.

If she is on the phone who is she calling? and where is her nearest cell site. ok 2 questions

http://www.tonic.com/article/footage...-chaplin-film/

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its not a phone. Its a really old hearing aid. Seen this on so many sites.

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It's not a phone, it's her pet brick, and she's talking to it........

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Well for a start that is not a woman it is definately a male in drag as to the other part of it i'm happy to leave that to everyone's imagination :).

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I don't believe for one minute it's a phone or she, or he, is a time traveller but I don't buy your explanation either.

If it's a hearing aid why is she talking into it?

Or if it is a hearing aid, why has she got it to her ear if no one is talking to her

---------- Post added at 16:50 ---------- Previous post was at 16:49 ----------

Now that "is" a valid explanation

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If it's a time traveller from a future do you think that they'll be holding and talking into what to them would be an antiquated mobile :rolleyes:

This is definately a case of people seeing what they want to see!!!

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Just for fun and arguments sake.

If it was a time traveller it wouldn't be an antiquated mobile phone would it.

If they were using some kind of communication device it would have to be a fairly powerful remote communicator as there is no mobile network to plug into.

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It's probably nothing more than a transistor radio, and he just happens to be talking to himself as you do at what's probably a phone in chat show at the time.

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not till 1954 it wasn't

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Indeed, I don't think "phone in chat shows" were very big in 1920 either.

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Clearly the marketing department behind the new release of the Back to the Future series have done their job. Did you spot the DeLorean in the background, too?

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I have no explanation for what the object might be, but if this was a time traveller, why would they be so open about using a mobile communications device, in a society where it hadn't yet been invented?

Forget about the dangers of changing history, appearing to be having a conversation with yourself or a brick, could have easily earned whoever, an extended stay in the local nut house..

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The picture is so bad, it's difficult to distinguish anything. Just DM making something of nothing..................

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Ah, the old "I can't explain this, so I'll explain it by making up something completely impossible" ploy.....

Occam's razor should really be applied.

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If it was a time traveller using a mobile 'communication' device. being so open about it wouldn't worry him as he knows people around him wouldn't be aware what it is. he knows that only we will realise later on in years.

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As i said man in drag doing something and whatever that was it was clearly not something that unknown for the time otherwise i am sure a crowd would have built up pointing out the person.

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I'm in suspense. what is he doing?

Some people don't get this thing about time travel anyway. I've read comments where people are saying we don't have good coverage as it is in this age, so it must have been worse in the 20's.

who's to say he was there from today, and not our future?
the technology then would probably be significantly superior to what it is today, and allowed the phone to work.
and who's to say that outer space where the satellites are would be affected by time travel? how far out from earth would time travel affect?

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:confused:

Are you saying that the Earth of 1940 was taken forward to the putative time-travellers home time (thus putting it in the same time-frame as the satellites, allowing the communications), or are you saying that the area around the Earth in the putative time-travellers present was taken back to the 1940s (taking the satellites with it to allow communications)?

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Its not a earing aid, my nan had an old style one and the "mic" thing in it was huge, every now and then you would get a feed back whistle, that she couldn't hear.

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I'll try and explain it a bit. is it like a rewind thing where everything goes backwards to the point you press Stop and Play?
if you could just go back in time, the future would still be there for you to return to. so the 'satellites' would still be there in the futures space time.

so unless it's a distance thing then the only problem would be contacting the satellites that are there in the future? and if it's not a rewind tape thing then why does space have to be affected by what's happened to the earth?

how far out would time travel expand in the way that millions of miles have to go back with the time on earth?

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But only the "traveller" went back (supposedly) - how would he take the satellites with him, and not all the atmosphere, buildings, planes, spaceships, birds, etc, between him and the satellites?

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Yes, only he went back. I'm not saying he took the satellites with him. they stayed in the time he went from and returned to.

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But that would be a clear violation of causality - even if you tried to support this proposition by proposing quantum entanglement using the Bohm Interpretation of quantum mechanics as the method of communication between the traveller in the past and the satellites in the future, the fact that causality is preserved in quantum mechanics is a rigorous result in modern quantum field theories, which makes that supposition non-viable.

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Good point. totally agree with whatever it is you said.

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If you are interested, here is a bit more information.

Bohmian Mechanics

Student Friendly Quantum Field Theory

Enjoy....:)

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It's very hard to see anything clearly..

If only someone could do a CSI Miami on the film and clean it up I suspect it was a pair of gloves and she was shielding her eyes against the sun..

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But if time were to be in dimensions. And the mobile phone frequencies happened to travel through the dimensions.
The time traveller would have got a connection.
As we are not in her/his dimension or the dimension, which he or she came from we will never know.:D

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It didn't look like this person was shielding her / his eyes from anything, unless of course their eyes are located in their ears? (might go some way to explain why it would require a hearing aid) but then this would mean we're talking aliens, aliens that probably walk sideways.. it didn't look like it was walking sideways.

The guy said he filmed the portion we were seeing off his tv, so all we really need for a better view is the dvd.. i'm holding out for a 1080p release ;)

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I read that it's not on the DVD.

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You are a few years out lol. It was the 1920s ;)

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What's a decade or so amongst time-travelling aliens from another dimension - acceptable margin of error...:D

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The lengths some people will go to to get a signal on Orange:rolleyes: :D

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Ah, the "many worlds" interpretation of quantum physics, utilising the quantum decoherence mechanism; once again, causality violations would need to occur for this to be true, as travelling to the past would create a "branch" which would diverge from the time-travelling alien from another dimension's original time-line (instead of collapsing the standing wave (cf the Copenhagen Interpretation), there would be a quantum superposition) thus breaching the information transfer. ;)

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But surely what you are saying is only based on the known knowledge that we have
Therefore the theory may be proven wrong in a future dimension. i refer you to the
String theory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory which asserted that strings are really 1-dimensional slices of a 2-dimensional membrane vibrating in 11-dimensional space.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/10/4.pngLevels of magnification:
1. Macroscopic level - Matter
2. Molecular level
3. Atomic level -- Protons, neutrons, and electrons
4. Subatomic level -- Electron
5. Subatomic level - Quarks
6. String level

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Exactly. it's a bit like discussing what today is really simple electronics, but back then was seen as impossible for the future.

I mean you only have to look at Star Trek (Shatner) to see how they imagined the future. it was just loads of flashing bulbs.

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Mind you they did have a nice motorola clamshell comms device with voice dialing!!!! ;)

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I,d agree with that

http://beckerexhibits.wustl.edu/did/20thcent/index.htm

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Ask Doctor Who. He's frequently landed in the right place, but the wrong century.

I believe that Gary is following the Star Trek theory of time travel, where it *is* possible to transmit signals to different times. As evidenced (notably) in the episodes of Voyager and DS9 involving Star Fleet's Temporal Affairs department.

Regarding this clip, while I would *like* to believe it's true, the far more logical explanation is that someone ripped the DVD of the original movie, filmed the woman walking along in front of a blue or green screen holding something up to her ear, then used something like Adobe After Effects to both match the video to the film (so lighting, grain, focus etc match) and create a composite video showing the woman shown.

The fact that the person who "discovered' it presents his entire theory while standing in front of a poster advertising another film speaks volumes. Oh, and, Yes, he did direct the film on the poster.

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Has a Belfast film-maker discovered evidence of time travel? asks the BBC this morning.

No, but he's discovered a foolproof way to get massive free publicity for his work. Good on him.

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Do you mean a parallel dimension/world in the multiverse, a future branch of the multiverse, or a future branch of the of a parallel dimension/world in the multiverse?

Re String Theory, you do know that the theory has yet to make any quantitative experimental predictions? Perhaps the LHC may provide some substance (or not) to this. ;)

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Spoke to my elderly neighbour about this and showed him the clip this morning and he said something about his father having a music box the type that used a revolving disc with pins or something and that was about the same size as a modern mobile he said it had his and his wives fav tune on it maybe it is that simple.

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Rizzy, you're on the mark - Occam's Razor.

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A theory is just that. it has no substance ;) untill proven then its fact.

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Not quite - a theory is an explanation of a phenomenon, or collection of phenomena, that fits the available evidence and has gained wide acceptance. It isn't a fact, in the scientific sense, although it may be convenient to treat it as one to allow further research to proceed.

Hence Evolution is a theory, not a fact, and intelligent design is a hypothesis, not a theory. But that's a topic for another thread. ;)

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[QUOTE=Gary L;35115013]Exactly. it's a bit like discussing what today is really simple electronics, but back then was seen as impossible for the future.

I mean you only have to look at Star Trek (Shatner) to see how they imagined the future. it was just loads of flashing bulbs.[/QUOTE ]
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Don't get me wrong. I wish him good luck.

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Anyone heard of this guy

http://www.johntitor.com/

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No.;)

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Hmm what's the wink for.... your not.... you are.... you're titor