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Gary L 26-10-2010 08:08
Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
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UK security chiefs have ordered an acceleration in police training to prepare for any future "Mumbai-style" gun attack in a public place.

A series of counter-terrorism exercises are being held with police marksmen training alongside units of the SAS.

Police armed response units are also being given more powerful weapons.

The BBC's security correspondent Frank Gardner said there was no indication that such an attack was imminent in the UK.

Last month intelligence sources said they had uncovered the early stages of an al-Qaeda plot to carry out co-ordinated attacks in the UK, France and Germany.

Suspects were planning to copy the 2008 attacks in the Indian city of Mumbai, where 10 gunmen went on a three-day rampage, killing 166 people and injuring more than 300, the sources said.

Our correspondent said the UK authorities had been planning for such an attack ever since Mumbai happened.
I won't be going to the olympics. if I had a guess on which is most likely to be hit first. I'd say France.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11622218

Hugh 26-10-2010 08:30
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Nothing new - we planned/trained for civil insurrection/terrorist attacks in the 70's and 80s.

Just the Security Chiefs raising their profile to show how they need additional funds - remember, kiddies, fear means funds.....

Derek 26-10-2010 11:31
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35113503)
I won't be going to the olympics. if I had a guess on which is most likely to be hit first. I'd say France.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11622218
Of course if I was a crazed jihadi with a machine gun and the choice of places to shoot up would I choose

  1. The UK. Mostly unarmed Police with the Guardian and Sky news on the sidelines to endlessly ask if the nutter with the gun really, really needed shot
  2. France with it's mostly armed Police who can return fire
  3. Spain with it's mostly armed Police who can return fire
  4. Italy with it's mostly armed Police who can return fire

Shamelessly stolen from Inspector Gadget but assuming any suicide attacker has an ounce of common sense they won't want to be taken out by a lucky shot from a nearby cop.

Mr Angry 26-10-2010 16:21
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35113640)
Of course if I was a crazed jihadi with a machine gun and the choice of places to shoot up would I choose

  1. The UK. Mostly unarmed Police with the Guardian and Sky news on the sidelines to endlessly ask if the nutter with the gun really, really needed shot
  2. France with it's mostly armed Police who can return fire
  3. Spain with it's mostly armed Police who can return fire
  4. Italy with it's mostly armed Police who can return fire

Shamelessly stolen from Inspector Gadget but assuming any suicide attacker has an ounce of common sense they won't want to be taken out by a lucky shot from a nearby cop.
Rather inconveniently for the inspector the EU report on terrorist activity (specific to jihadists) for 2009 suggests that Italy was the jihadist favourite with one attack taking place in that year.

Jihadists aside it appears from the report that the separatists active in either France or Spain are none too concerned / dissuaded by the presence of armed police forces.

An armed police force that can return fire isn't always the answer when it comes to deterrents. In fact, historically, more often than not, they prove to be better "legitimate" targets in the eyes of some terrorist organisations trying to sell their ideals to an otherwise uninterested public.

Hom3r 26-10-2010 16:26
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
The Nazi's failed to defeat us.

The IRA failed to defeat us

So a few P***pot terrorists won't even get close.

Mr Angry 26-10-2010 16:30
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35113773)
The Nazi's failed to defeat us.

The IRA failed to defeat us

So a few P***pot terrorists won't even get close.
That'll stop them dead in their tracks. You should work in an advisory capacity to COBRA.

Derek 26-10-2010 20:08
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35113772)
An armed police force that can return fire isn't always the answer when it comes to deterrents. In fact, historically, more often than not, they prove to be better "legitimate" targets in the eyes of some terrorist organisations trying to sell their ideals to an otherwise uninterested public.
It doesn't change the fact that *if* there was something remotely resembling the Mumbai attacks in the UK say in the run up to Christmas the death toll would be absolutely horrific.

Derrick Bird was a lone nutter, probably drunk, with a small calibre rifle and shotgun. The Police got to him very quickly and had to watch as he killed a number of people as they couldn't return fire.

A team of shooters with even basic military training and automatic weapons loose on the streets of London, Manchester, Birmingham, Edinburgh etc. knowing they have very little chance of the Police returning fire is not a pleasant thought. :(

Mr Angry 26-10-2010 20:41
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35113888)
It doesn't change the fact that *if* there was something remotely resembling the Mumbai attacks in the UK say in the run up to Christmas the death toll would be absolutely horrific.

Derrick Bird was a lone nutter, probably drunk, with a small calibre rifle and shotgun. The Police got to him very quickly and had to watch as he killed a number of people as they couldn't return fire.

A team of shooters with even basic military training and automatic weapons loose on the streets of London, Manchester, Birmingham, Edinburgh etc. knowing they have very little chance of the Police returning fire is not a pleasant thought. :(
That is as may be Derek but the facts still stand that armed police do not represent much of a deterrent to the determined terrorist - especially those driven by martyrdom.

The statistics, together with the life experiences of anyone who lived through such scenarios attest to the fact.

Gary L 01-11-2010 10:07
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POLICE armed response vehicles are patrolling 24 hours-a-day around Birmingham after intelligence chiefs warned of a Mumbai-style terror attack on the city.
The West Midlands force has DOUBLED the number of armed officers in the city, TREBLED the armed vehicles on patrol and deployed specialist marksmen trained to carry out “head shots” on terrorist gunmen.
The move comes after a Birmingham man was killed in the Al Qaeda heartland of North West Pakistan last month, leading to fears that he was at the centre of a terror cell intent on copying the Mumbai attacks by targeting hotels in European cities.


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The UK’s terror threat level remains at “severe”, the second highest rating, where it has been since January.
Chillingly, our police source said the threat to Birmingham could come from INSIDE the city.
And he warned that the decision to remove CCTV cameras from Washwood Heath and Sparkbrook following an outcry from local residents had hampered efforts to trace suspected extremists.
“The counter terrorism officers have got a major problem trying to gather evidence against suspects,” he said.
“That’s always a difficult job, but it’s been made twice as hard by all this nonsense over the CCTV cameras. They could have really made a difference in tracing extremists.”
The cameras were mothballed in June after it was revealed that funding for the £3 million scheme, which formed a surveillance “ring of steel” around the mainly Islamic communities of Sparkbrook, Washwood Heath and Alum Rock, had come from a national counter-terrorism grant, rather than from West Midlands Police’s regular budget.
Last month, the Sunday Mercury revealed that four of the 12 most dangerous terror suspects in Britain are living in the Midlands.
Someone's going to feel really silly if any terrorist activity develops from where they gave in to the demands of switching off the CCTV.

http://www.birminghammail.net/news/b...19-27574768/2/

Chrysalis 01-11-2010 15:51
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
I got no issue with cctv on the streets.

Derek 25-11-2014 09:29
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
A bit of a bump for this thread with this little titbit of information.

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The number of authorised police firearms officers in England and Wales has fallen over the past five years, new figures show.

In 2009 there were at least 5,746 authorised firearms officers, while in 2014 that number has dropped to 4,986 - a reduction of 760.

The greatest fall in authorised police firearms officers has been seen at the Met, where 752 posts have been lost; down from 2,897 in 2009 to 2,145 this year.
2 and bit thousand AFO's for England and Wales (outside London). Split over 4 or 5 shifts, some on sick or annual leave, some office based. Not a lot if something needing a firearms response is needed.

http://www.policeoracle.com/news/Uni...ats_86303.html

Chris 25-11-2014 09:40
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
TBH I'd rather our police weren't called on for SWAT-type incidents. Let them deal with the occasional armed and dangerous nut job holed up in a south London flat, or roaming the countryside with a shotgun. For Mumbai-type incidents we really ought to be just picking up the phone to Hereford.

Derek 25-11-2014 10:55
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35743060)
For Mumbai-type incidents we really ought to be just picking up the phone to Hereford.
And the journey time from Hereford to say the trafford centre, silverburn, metro centre of the Royal mile is?

Derrick Bird had two weapons and was an active shooter in the countryside For two hours and killed 12 people. If a serious active shooter incident occurs in a busy area should we just write off anyone caught up in it till the boys in black appear?

Chris 25-11-2014 11:06
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35743074)
And the journey time from Hereford to say the trafford centre, silverburn, metro centre of the Royal mile is?

Derrick Bird had two weapons and was an active shooter in the countryside For two hours and killed 12 people. If a serious active shooter incident occurs in a busy area should we just write off anyone caught up in it till the boys in black appear?
Realistically, how many more armed police squads would we need in order to have one on scene, anywhere, at any time, in under an hour?

IIRC the Hereford boys are air-mobile, so it's not likely they're going to get snarled up on the M6 while someone hoses down Shopping City.

Taf 25-11-2014 12:47
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
How long do you think it would take them to receive permission to be deployed? If there was a civil servant in the chain of command I reckon it would take a tad too long to be of any use.

The vile cowards who would make one of these attacks are probably taking that into account. The possibility of an immediate presence of an armed response would make if difficult for them to murder and then fade back into the background.

richard s 25-11-2014 18:24
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
I see this so called government are training every-day citizens to be terror alert specialists. I lot of good that will do if a terrorist wears an explosive vest under a big coat.

Does this government know something we do not know! by training people to be terror spotters or suspect a terrorist threat could be about to happen very soon.

Taf 25-11-2014 18:45
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/11/2.jpg


Given out at UK railways stations today.

Osem 25-11-2014 19:43
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Do you think 'they' know something we don't?... :erm: ;)

I'm not sure reading this would prevent the sort of people who'd panic from doing so but I suppose we have to be seen to be doing something. Anyway, I'll be doing what I did during the IRA years and not altering my movements one jot.

I dare say that right now the 'chain of command', decision making process and escalation procedure is being reviewed and shortened. Terrorists apart, nobody wants dithering to cost lives.

Derek 27-11-2014 08:13
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35743078)
Realistically, how many more armed police squads would we need in order to have one on scene, anywhere, at any time, in under an hour?
Maybe not a huge increase in ARVs, that would give the Daily Record a heart attack, but a larger number of AFOs who can get fairly speedy access to weapons before relying on other areas or special forces.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35743078)
IIRC the Hereford boys are air-mobile, so it's not likely they're going to get snarled up on the M6 while someone hoses down Shopping City.
Assuming they are sitting poised and beside a chopper it's still a lot longer than I'd like. I'm fairly sure they aren't just all holed up in barracks but even a few squads spread over populated areas wouldnt come close to dealing with a Mumbai style attack before horrendous casualties were caused.

Derek 03-02-2015 17:04
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
From Twitter

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@UKResponseCop: Incident in Neighbouring Force. 3 Suspects armed with shotguns and crossbows. First ARV on scene took 29 MINUTES to arrive. #policefirearms
Quote:
@UKResponseCop: To get FOUR armed officers on scene took 48 MINUTES. #policearming
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@UKResponseCop: @patrolcop took over an hour to get six armed officers on scene but you get my point
Just as well the shotgun toting crims weren't on a spree. That's England in the middle of the day. Anyone still think the UK is ready for a Mumbai style incident?

Osem 03-02-2015 17:17
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Sadly it'll probably take a major incident to focus minds on the reality. At that point there'll likely be a media led outcry bemoaning the poor state of readiness of our authorities to tackle such incidents promptly and those persistent voices which always seem to decry every suggestion that our police might need more resources to tackle the threat we face will be silent, for a while...

Sirius 03-02-2015 19:05
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard s (Post 35743163)
I see this so called government are training every-day citizens to be terror alert specialists. I lot of good that will do if a terrorist wears an explosive vest under a big coat.

Does this government know something we do not know! by training people to be terror spotters or suspect a terrorist threat could be about to happen very soon.
I take it you think Milliband and his spend spend spend brigade have a better idea of what to do ?

Mr Angry 04-02-2015 08:28
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35757113)
I take it you think Milliband and his spend spend spend brigade have a better idea of what to do ?
Interesting read for fans of "spend, spend, spend".

The coalition will leave more debt than all Labour governments since 1900.

Hugh 04-02-2015 11:33
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
He does appear to confuse debt and deficit.....

Mr Angry 06-02-2015 17:45
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35757198)
He does appear to confuse debt and deficit.....
Right enough, this is probably a better analysis.

"Eliminating the deficit: In 2010 Osborne promised that his austerity experiment would completely eliminate the budget deficit by 2015. In reality the UK is still borrowing £100 billion per year, meaning that he's failed to even halve the deficit.

Government debt: In 2010 Osborne predicted that the UK national debt would have reached £1.232 trillion by 2015. In reality it has risen to £1.489 trillion, which means he has borrowed £257 billion more than he said he would.

The size of the economy: In 2010 Osborne predicted that the UK economy would grow to £1.916 trillion by 2015, but in reality it is only £1.822 trillion, meaning that he's borrowed more than a quarter of a trillion more than he said he was going to, in order to make the UK economy almost £100 billion smaller than he said it was going to be.

Debt/GDP: In 2010 Osborne predicted that debt would peak at 67.2% of GDP in 2015 and then start falling. In reality the debt has reached 80.4% of GDP and it's still growing dramatically. This means that he's now overseen the longest sustained increase in the national debt since the Second World War!

The UK Credit Rating: Before he became Chancellor George Osborne staked his reputation on maintaining the UK's AAA Credit Ratings, but in 2013 the UK economy was downgraded for the first time since the 1970s.

Worse than Labour: George Osborne continually harps on about how Labour would threaten his "economic recovery" but what he doesn't tell you is that in just four years he's created more new debt than every single Labour government in history combined!"

Derek 06-02-2015 18:19
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35757650)
They ran the same scenario about a dozen times and they did not survive any of them.
It doesn't take much insider knowledge to pick an ARV out in traffic or to lure one to a call, especially if the militants have any form of insiders within the UK Police. Sadly I'd imagine they are bright enough to start an attack with taking out an ARV. :(

Ramrod 06-02-2015 18:24
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35757652)
It doesn't take much insider knowledge to pick an ARV out in traffic or to lure one to a call, especially if the militants have any form of insiders within the UK Police. Sadly I'd imagine they are bright enough to start an attack with taking out an ARV. :(
If you're wondering, I deleted my last post. Thought about it and decided it's better not said in open forum :D

Hom3r 06-02-2015 18:57
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
I'm willing to bet in certain locations SAS are on stand by to double tap terrorists.

TheDaddy 06-02-2015 21:29
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35757645)
Right enough, this is probably a better analysis.

"Eliminating the deficit: In 2010 Osborne promised that his austerity experiment would completely eliminate the budget deficit by 2015. In reality the UK is still borrowing £100 billion per year, meaning that he's failed to even halve the deficit.

Government debt: In 2010 Osborne predicted that the UK national debt would have reached £1.232 trillion by 2015. In reality it has risen to £1.489 trillion, which means he has borrowed £257 billion more than he said he would.

The size of the economy: In 2010 Osborne predicted that the UK economy would grow to £1.916 trillion by 2015, but in reality it is only £1.822 trillion, meaning that he's borrowed more than a quarter of a trillion more than he said he was going to, in order to make the UK economy almost £100 billion smaller than he said it was going to be.

Debt/GDP: In 2010 Osborne predicted that debt would peak at 67.2% of GDP in 2015 and then start falling. In reality the debt has reached 80.4% of GDP and it's still growing dramatically. This means that he's now overseen the longest sustained increase in the national debt since the Second World War!

The UK Credit Rating: Before he became Chancellor George Osborne staked his reputation on maintaining the UK's AAA Credit Ratings, but in 2013 the UK economy was downgraded for the first time since the 1970s.

Worse than Labour: George Osborne continually harps on about how Labour would threaten his "economic recovery" but what he doesn't tell you is that in just four years he's created more new debt than every single Labour government in history combined!"
Gideon is no better than Gordon but yet their are still people that believe one is better than the other, fact is they're politicians not economic geniuses

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35757664)
I'm willing to bet in certain locations SAS are on stand by to double tap terrorists.
And that location will be no where near you Dave or anywhere near where us little people are

---------- Post added at 22:29 ---------- Previous post was at 22:27 ----------

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35113902)
That is as may be Derek but the facts still stand that armed police do not represent much of a deterrent to the determined terrorist - especially those driven by martyrdom.

The statistics, together with the life experiences of anyone who lived through such scenarios attest to the fact.
Aren't our police armed anymore, have those wet liberals taken those little stick things of them

Mr Angry 07-02-2015 01:54
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35757680)
Gideon is no better than Gordon but yet their are still people that believe one is better than the other, fact is they're politicians not economic geniuses


Clearly, according to these figures, Gideon appears to be better than Gordon (and every Labour Government in history) at creating debt.

---------- Post added at 22:27 ---------- Previous post was at 22:26 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35757680)
Aren't our police armed anymore, have those wet liberals taken those little stick things of them
Any police I see are pretty well armed.

Derek 26-07-2015 08:24
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...or-attack.html

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A top secret plan for the mass deployment of armed troops on the streets of Britain in the wake of a major terrorist attack can be revealed for the first time today.

More than 5,000 heavily armed soldiers would be sent to inner cities if Islamic State or other fanatics launched multiple attacks on British soil – an unprecedented military response to terrorism.
So a discreet glock on the hip or a yellow taser is bad but a soldier in full gear is good. Has the Home Secretary been at the chancellors secret stash?

Will the army have the same rules of engagement as the Police or be subject to murder trials ten years after any shootings? And how quickly could they be deployed in the event of an attack?

Anyway I thought the Police had enough resources to cope already and could cope with further cuts so why would the army be needed.

Osem 26-07-2015 08:55
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
I think we could well be needing both the full resources of the police and the army in the not too distant future. I can't see there being exactly the same rules of engagement in such an eventuality and can see plenty of scope for future legal action even by the guilty, let along and innocent victims of the 'crossfire'.

Gary L 26-07-2015 08:56
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Just keep out of city centres. and don't go anywhere near London.

you'll be fine.

---------- Post added at 09:56 ---------- Previous post was at 09:55 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35790484)
I think we could well be needing both the full resources of the police and the army in the not too distant future.
We let it go this far.

Maggy 26-07-2015 10:14
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35790483)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...or-attack.html



So a discreet glock on the hip or a yellow taser is bad but a soldier in full gear is good. Has the Home Secretary been at the chancellors secret stash?

Will the army have the same rules of engagement as the Police or be subject to murder trials ten years after any shootings? And how quickly could they be deployed in the event of an attack?

Anyway I thought the Police had enough resources to cope already and could cope with further cuts so why would the army be needed.
Why are we going down this route? We didn't when we were at war with the IRA..:confused:

Sirius 26-07-2015 11:33
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
I have no issue with this, we need the Army to deal with any religious nut jobs should they attack. considering that most of these nut jobs will not be interested in saving the own skins they will go full on. A soldier in full body armour and a gun will be able to deal with anything the nut jobs throw at them. If the attacks in the past are anything to go by they will have assault rifles, explosives and grenades. I feel sorry for any copper that comes up against that sort of fire power. I believe you should be able to face the terrorist with better fire power than they have if you want to shut them down quickly

Carlos Carboni 26-07-2015 11:36
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Is the river Thames too shallow to bring in a nuclear class submarine (e.g HMS Ambush) to protect central London?

:rolleyes:

imo, OTT reaction and/or just a PR exercise.....

Hugh 26-07-2015 11:38
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
PR exercise / scaremongering....

Sirius 26-07-2015 11:43
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35790493)
Why are we going down this route? We didn't when we were at war with the IRA..:confused:
The IRA did not run around shooting and beheading people whilst shouting Ally Snackbar. The IRA terrorist always ensured they could get away because they did not have suicide and virgins as part of there plan.

arcimedes 27-07-2015 09:31
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlos Carboni (Post 35790500)
Is the river Thames too shallow to bring in a nuclear class submarine (e.g HMS Ambush) to protect central London?

:rolleyes:

imo, OTT reaction and/or just a PR exercise.....
Err torpedoes don't work on dry land :D

Osem 27-07-2015 11:17
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arcimedes (Post 35790628)
Err torpedoes don't work on dry land :D
Submarine launched cruise missiles do. ;)

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/the-equi...s/astute-class

Maggy 27-07-2015 11:47
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35790504)
The IRA did not run around shooting and beheading people whilst shouting Ally Snackbar. The IRA terrorist always ensured they could get away because they did not have suicide and virgins as part of there plan.
Still no excuse to go crazy..that only satisfies the ego of those in so called Islamist groups.

Stuart 27-07-2015 11:50
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35790504)
The IRA did not run around shooting and beheading people whilst shouting Ally Snackbar. The IRA terrorist always ensured they could get away because they did not have suicide and virgins as part of there plan.
No, they just parked unmarked vans filled with explosives in public places.

heero_yuy 27-07-2015 12:16
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arcimedes (Post 35790628)
Err torpedoes don't work on dry land :D
Bangalor ones do. :D

Osem 27-07-2015 12:25
Re: Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK
 
The point being that a van packed with explosives is a very different type of threat requiring a different type of response.

HMG is right to draw up plans for any such attack and I don't see this as an overreaction although I do see a element of PR at work. They must be seen to be doing something even if the truth is that there's an endless list of potential targets for gunmen (lone or otherwise) to choose and no way we can protect them all 24/7 with armed police/troops.

One thing is without doubt and that is when the inevitable happens, the Govt. will be blamed for not having done enough and we'll all start to see things a lot differently.


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